I definitely want to try VCV, likely this week. I have been slowly moving towards all VG or at least high VG liquids more. Any juices, you all recommend as a first sort of must try?
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Nutty cookie! Tastes like a white chocolate/ macadamia cookie. My ADV.
Night Shift tastes like a chocolate glazed doughnut from Krispy Kreme. It's supposed to have coffee but I never picked up on it.
Harvest berry tastes like Grape Bubble Yum.
Strawb-Gwab tastes like Fruitopias Strawberry Passion Awareness.
I was a menthol smoker and I can't stand menthol vapes. AT ALL. That being said, Ice beard tobacco was very enjoyable!
Vanilla Custard was a very light eggy vanilla. Very creamy. Also enjoyable.
Thank you much, I will try the Nutty Cookie and Night Shift, I do not have a lot of dessert liquids right now and love macadamia cookies, and the strawberry, because I love about anything strawberry....which i am sure i will burn myself out on, but no time soon.
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It happens!
I've found myself twice having over 600ml.. Probably more like 650ml..
(I believe RuDawg was over 1 liter at one point! But a half-liter was Unflavored..?)
It's the sales that get you.. I guess it's easy to get caught up in it all..
Then one day you look in your juice cupboard, and you're like, "Aww.. ish"
Of course, both those times had staggered purchase dates, and a good chunk of it was Unflavored..
Was creepy how it sneaks up on you, though.. And what makes it worse is if you're cutting back nic levels during all this..
I've got a bunch of VCV right now.. But I should be okay, as long as I'm mindful to vape up the flavors that go first...
I really want to dive deeper into DIY, but I can't right now...
I was changing nic levels at the time, as well as struggling with going back and forth with analogs finding what was once working for me wasn't working anymore. I went from 12 to 6 to 18.. now I'm happy mixing to 9. But when 12 is too high and 6 is too low, you end up having to buy two bottles at different nic levels to get what you need. It can accumulate quickly that way - especially if you want to have a variety of flavors. I didn't realize some of the flavors would go so quickly, so was really surprised when I went back to the bottles to find the flavors gone. But I've got Harvest Berries from a year ago that still tastes the same, along with other VCV fruits and my Blue Beard. It's just those mentioned that I'll have to get smaller bottles of from now on. I'm also back on track without smoking that I'm not going to have a problem going through bottles fast. I don't know.. maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think having three 120ml bottles of eliquid laying around is excessive.
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Really depends which flavors & how much you vape..
If somebody is only doing 2-3ml per day, that's 60-90ml per month..
That 360ml would last you 4-6 months.. You might get away with that with non-VCVs, but probably too long for a good chunk of the VCV flavors...
In the 1st few days of switching to zero-nic, I was chain-vaping in juice-guzzling iClear30's -- as a celebration & as a "need".. I was going through like 10ml per day! And at that rate, I would have blasted through three 120'ers in a little more than a month..
(I've cut back since, heh..)
Anyway, here's a post of mine from a couple months ago re: which flavors hold up better, at least in my experience.. Was only able to personally test about a third, and some of those might even have been batch-dependent.. YMMV...
Yo Dawg..
It would be interesting to hear of any more that you experienced any flavor degradation with around the 2-month mark (or even before/after)...
Mine usually don't last that long, but thanks to over-ordering in the past, I've had a handful that reached that point & had started going downhill, including..
Night Shift
Nutty Cookie
Ice Beard (flavor actually got even better, though the clouds got too stinky)
Catherine the Grape
Flavors that hit the 2-month point, and were still fine..
Sour Skittles
Harvest Berry
Vanilla Custard (I think it was still getting even better!)
Unflavored
Really depends what you're interested in & what you like..
For the tobaccos, my favorites are Ice Beard, White Beard & Vanilla Tobacco...
For the fruits, my favorites are Catherine the Grape (though I think they might have changed the recipe recently, according to color changes & to my tastebuds), Strawb-Gwab & Sour Skittles.. Honorable mention to a fresh Summer Sweet.. All the fruits are pretty good, actually...
For the desserts, my favorites are hard to say.. But probably Mewlew's, Vanilla Custard & Monkey Business.. Shout-outs to Campfire & a fresh Night Shift, too...
Whatever you get, just keep in mind that they'll probably need to steep (caps on!) for a few days to a few weeks.. Give 'em a try on the 1st day, but they will improve for a while (until they start to degrade after a while
)What are you using for vape equipment? Some toppers bring out the VCV better than others...
Im so happy I found VCV early on in my vaping career. I am absolutely addicted to Mewlews Magic. I have not been able to find another vendor that can replicate the taste of chocolate like they do. It was Mewlew which got me to completely stop smoking analogs. Finding a liquid that you love the taste of is so important when you are trying to go from smoking analogs to vaping IMHO. Now I wont be caught dead without a tank full of Mewlews magic.
Did I also mention VCV has one of the best CS people I have ever dealt with. Shout out to Patti.
Did I also mention VCV has one of the best CS people I have ever dealt with. Shout out to Patti.
The only problem ive had with VCV is the juice just eats coils. Esp Mewlews magic. Ive never had a coil last more than a few days in my aspire et-s bdc.
Has anybody had bad experiences steeping VCV juices with the cap off ( not the nipple just the cap ) for around 2 weeks where it may start to loose flavor.
One of my bottles that I steeped with the cap off itsnt tasting as good as the others. I just wanted to know if anybody else had this problem or if its just in my head.
Has anybody had bad experiences steeping VCV juices with the cap off ( not the nipple just the cap ) for around 2 weeks where it may start to loose flavor.
One of my bottles that I steeped with the cap off itsnt tasting as good as the others. I just wanted to know if anybody else had this problem or if its just in my head.
The only problem ive had with VCV is the juice just eats coils. Esp Mewlews magic. Ive never had a coil last more than a few days in my aspire et-s bdc.
Has anybody had bad experiences steeping VCV juices with the cap off ( not the nipple just the cap ) for around 2 weeks where it may start to loose flavor.
One of my bottles that I steeped with the cap off itsnt tasting as good as the others. I just wanted to know if anybody else had this problem or if its just in my head.
Chocolates are coil-killers, unfortunately.. No way getting around that..
The fruits aren't as bad.. And obviously unflavored goes the easiest on them...
I use top-coil iClears for clearos, so I'm able to rinse / dry-burn / rinse again.. Helps maintain the coils & keeps my costs lower, and don't have to replace coil-heads as often...
Not sure if you're able to do that with the specific Aspire heads you're using..
Quite a few VCV ECF'ers use an RBA & side-step all that expensive nonsense...
As for steeping VCVs, no cap off!
EDIT: You're just going to degrade the juice, as you've already found out the hard way..
Leave everything on, and just keep the bottles in a cool, dark, dry space.. Give 'em a good shake every now & then, and you're good to go...
Really depends what you're interested in & what you like..
For the tobaccos, my favorites are Ice Beard, White Beard & Vanilla Tobacco...
For the fruits, my favorites are Catherine the Grape (though I think they might have changed the recipe recently, according to color changes & to my tastebuds), Strawb-Gwab & Sour Skittles.. Honorable mention to a fresh Summer Sweet.. All the fruits are pretty good, actually...
For the desserts, my favorites are hard to say.. But probably Mewlew's, Vanilla Custard & Monkey Business.. Shout-outs to Campfire & a fresh Night Shift, too...
Whatever you get, just keep in mind that they'll probably need to steep (caps on!) for a few days to a few weeks.. Give 'em a try on the 1st day, but they will improve for a while (until they start to degrade after a while
What are you using for vape equipment? Some toppers bring out the VCV better than others...
I use a few kayfuns, mainly the russian 91%, an aerotank mega (cause it is glass) and I have an atomic clone, but looking to get more RDA. The EHpro atomic is my first venture into RDA because I like dripping a lot, I mainly still like 306s a lot, and the hh357...all lately have been on regulated devices, DNA30, SX300 and the provari. What toppers do you like with VCV? I am always looking to get more stuff and branch out.
I ordered some dessert flavors this morning, Night shift and Nutty Cookie and look forward to them, but as far as flavors go I vape everything style wise, more fruits and tobaccos, dry or sweet. No worries on steeping, I can let them sit back for a bit. Thank you for the info.
Yea im not able to dry burn and reuse the Aspire et-s bdc coils. I cant even rebuild them. I just started trying the phase out my Aspire tanks with pro tanks for the simple fact that I can rebuild the mini protank 3 heads and reuse them. The only problem I can foresee is that im so used to the taste of Mewlews magic from the Aspire tanks, im worried the Pt3 wont be able to replicate that same flavor for me. well see. Ive also just been getting into some other basic rebuildables ie taifun gt, kayfun 3.1 and 2 RDAs. I prefer RBAs to RDAs so far. Maybe I just haven't found the right RBA for me yet.
As far as steeping with the caps on, I have a few bottles that ive had with the caps off but nipple on steeping for 3 weeks. It seems like the flavor isn't what it was when I first got them. I hope I didn't ruin the juice like your saying. That would be awful. Its about 90-120ml worth of VCV juice. Both mewlews magic and chocolate pudding. 8-o8-o8-o8-o How long do you think it takes the juice to degrade with the caps off???? Hopefully not to much in 3 weeks....
As far as steeping with the caps on, I have a few bottles that ive had with the caps off but nipple on steeping for 3 weeks. It seems like the flavor isn't what it was when I first got them. I hope I didn't ruin the juice like your saying. That would be awful. Its about 90-120ml worth of VCV juice. Both mewlews magic and chocolate pudding. 8-o8-o8-o8-o How long do you think it takes the juice to degrade with the caps off???? Hopefully not to much in 3 weeks....
Chocolates are coil-killers, unfortunately.. No way getting around that..
The fruits aren't as bad.. And obviously unflavored goes the easiest on them...
I use top-coil iClears for clearos, so I'm able to rinse / dry-burn / rinse again.. Helps maintain the coils & keeps my costs lower, and don't have to replace coil-heads as often...
Not sure if you're able to do that with the specific Aspire heads you're using..
Quite a few VCV ECF'ers use an RBA & side-step all that expensive nonsense...
As for steeping VCVs, no cap off!
EDIT: You're just going to degrade the juice, as you've already found out the hard way..
Leave everything on, and just keep the bottles in a cool, dark, dry space.. Give 'em a good shake every now & then, and you're good to go...
I can't speak for how VCV performs with the ones you use.. You might have to play around a little with what you have..
I just never got into the more expensive toppers.. I'll use a $215 ProVari, I'll DIY my own juice, use AW batteries & an XTAR VP1 charger.. but I'm just fine with the Innokin iClear 16 & 30, at $4 & $11, respectively...
Tried a bunch of clearos, but stuck with those two.. And the 16 puts out some really great detailed flavor, which apparently rivals some good RBAs...
Maybe one of these days I'll get into RBAs, who knows..
Enjoy your first VCV order!
No idea about the degradation, but I'm sure some irreversible damage has been done.. You might be able to revive it somewhat by mixing some fresh VCV with it.. Test a small amount first to see, so you don't waste any good new juice..
Eh, it happens, don't beat yourself up over it.. There's a learning curve with vaping, and you're going to make mistakes & waste a few bucks along the way.. We all go through it...
As for toppers, yeah, you're going to get different flavor/taste results with different ones.. I've already been down that road with clearos...
Honestly, the best I've used, all-around, is the Innokin iClear 16, surprisingly.. Price, flavor, portability, longevity, maintenance, works well with VCV, etc.. Has its quirks, but gets the job done pretty well, overall..
With regular dry-burns & rinses, I can usually get a good 40+ 2ml-fills from just one coil-head..
Here's a decent video on the process.. Though I do some things differently (would have done it sooner, like every 5-10 fills, depending on the flavor.. rinsed the head again after the dry-burn, doing it under the stove exhaust, etc.)...
Cleaning / Dry Burning iClear 16 Clearomizer / Tank - YouTube
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I really hope i didnt ruin the juice from VCV. Finding juice that you like is expensive enough I dont need to be ruining the juice that i have that i really do like smh...lol
I should really look into the pif forum on here so that i can try and find a good home for the many juices that i have and dont care for and possibly get some new ones i do like in return.
I dont have any iclear 16s, i have like 6 Aspire et-s bdc, 4 mini pt3, 1 regular pt3, 1 iclear 30, 1 taifun gt clone and 1 kayfun 3.1 clone going right now.
How are the iclear 16 compared to the iclear 30? I mainly like glass, it just sems to taste better imho.
I should really look into the pif forum on here so that i can try and find a good home for the many juices that i have and dont care for and possibly get some new ones i do like in return.
I dont have any iclear 16s, i have like 6 Aspire et-s bdc, 4 mini pt3, 1 regular pt3, 1 iclear 30, 1 taifun gt clone and 1 kayfun 3.1 clone going right now.
How are the iclear 16 compared to the iclear 30? I mainly like glass, it just sems to taste better imho.
I can't speak for how VCV performs with the ones you use.. You might have to play around a little with what you have..
I just never got into the more expensive toppers.. I'll use a $215 ProVari, I'll DIY my own juice, use AW batteries & an XTAR VP1 charger.. but I'm just fine with the Innokin iClear 16 & 30, at $4 & $11, respectively...
Tried a bunch of clearos, but stuck with those two.. And the 16 puts out some really great detailed flavor, which apparently rivals some good RBAs...
Maybe one of these days I'll get into RBAs, who knows..
Enjoy your first VCV order!
No idea about the degradation, but I'm sure some irreversible damage has been done.. You might be able to revive it somewhat by mixing some fresh VCV with it.. Test a small amount first to see, so you don't waste any good new juice..
Eh, it happens, don't beat yourself up over it.. There's a learning curve with vaping, and you're going to make mistakes & waste a few bucks along the way.. We all go through it...
As for toppers, yeah, you're going to get different flavor/taste results with different ones.. I've already been down that road with clearos...
Honestly, the best I've used, all-around, is the Innokin iClear 16, surprisingly.. Price, flavor, portability, longevity, maintenance, works well with VCV, etc.. Has its quirks, but gets the job done pretty well, overall..
With regular dry-burns & rinses, I can usually get a good 40+ 2ml-fills from just one coil-head..
Here's a decent video on the process.. Though I do some things differently (would have done it sooner, like every 5-10 fills, depending on the flavor.. rinsed the head again after the dry-burn, doing it under the stove exhaust, etc.)...
Cleaning / Dry Burning iClear 16 Clearomizer / Tank - YouTube
- You vape the same amount between fills.. Just about 2ml for the 16 (over-fill to 2ml, vape down to pretty much 0), compared to 2ml for the 30 (fill to 2.5ml, vape down to 0.5ml)..
- The 16 doesn't guzzle (waste) juice like the 30.. Vaping 10ml per day through a 30 is pretty easy to do..
- 16 is less expensive, same for the replacement heads.. However, the 16 body does break down & leak after a while.. the 30 body holds up better over time..
- A loose/unattached 16 doesn't leak when you're away from home for the day, like the 30 does.. At most, a loose 16 might leak a drop.. But I keep a few of them in a small ziploc bag, just in case.. Easy to carry a handful of flavors with you, nice & compact..
- The flavor of a 16 is much better than the 30.. You can pick out all the individual notes pretty easily.. Sometimes, it's almost overwhelming, so I vape VCV tobaccos from a flavor-muting 30, instead..
- I like the delrin (plastic) mouthpiece of the 16 better.. Don't like metal.. But the 16's is a bit skinny & short..
- The 30 can get a lot more gurgly/flooded than a 16.. And can't really lay it on its side, like you can a 16..
- A 16 is capable of dry hits.. But as long as you rest it on its side when the juice is low, or spin it horizontally a little from time to time to make sure the wicks are coated, you should be fine..
- Juice can collect around the mouthpieces of both, but just unscrewing it lets the juice go back down..
- Really good quality control on the 16 replacement heads.. A little worse for the 30.. I think I've gotten only 2 bad 16 heads in the past 7 months?
- Vapor production & hit are about the same, but 30 has a small edge..
- 16 has quicker & easier maintenance..
- I can (and do) have a boatload of flavors going in a bunch of 16's at the same time, really cheaply.. I have 9 going right now..
Enough comparison?
Anyway, keep in mind that these are inexpensive clearos.. They work well, but again, they're inexpensive clearos.. A 16 will run you $4-$6.. A 30 goes for $11-$13.. Even cheaper through FastTech.. But every topper has its pros & cons.. They work great for me, so I'd just rather spend my money on other stuff.. I also have large & thick hands & fingers, so I'm not sure coil building is for me..
Pick up 2 or 3 iClear 16's if you want, along with an equal number of replacement heads (I like the 2.1 ohm better).. Would run you $15-$20.. Throw 'em in your next order for whatever.. If you really hate them, they're not going to break the bank..
(Note: Get the original iClear 16.. I tried & hated the 16B.. and the 16D is rare & doesn't look to be all that great, either..)
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Ive noticed my 3mg Velvet stuff is really making me hack a lung up, what gives?
Is it the VCV?
Something else? Quitting smoking has side effects, for up to months afterwards..
Are all the flavors doing it? Just one?
What PG/VG ratios do you normally vape?
When I was vaping my 1st bottle of White Beard, I was getting a lot of throat-hit..
Turned out it was a bad coil-head in that clearo...
Yo Dawg! (RuDawg, not the new Dawg.. This is going to get confusing now, LOL..)
My 2nd ProVari is finally on its way!
About time.. Only took 5 months from #1..
See my avatar for color combo...
My 2nd ProVari is finally on its way!
About time.. Only took 5 months from #1..
See my avatar for color combo...
Now i have an excuse to get more vapemail :0
Speaking of vapemail I should be getting both my monthly subscription services in the next day or so. vapebox and vapemail club wooohoo i love getting vapemail... Oh i also think im getting vapemail from Halo... YEs Yes im sorry but i must cheat on VCV every once inna while.. Ya know, just to keep it interesting
Speaking of vapemail I should be getting both my monthly subscription services in the next day or so. vapebox and vapemail club wooohoo i love getting vapemail... Oh i also think im getting vapemail from Halo... YEs Yes im sorry but i must cheat on VCV every once inna while.. Ya know, just to keep it interesting
- You vape the same amount between fills.. Just about 2ml for the 16 (over-fill to 2ml, vape down to pretty much 0), compared to 2ml for the 30 (fill to 2.5ml, vape down to 0.5ml)..
- The 16 doesn't guzzle (waste) juice like the 30.. Vaping 10ml per day through a 30 is pretty easy to do..
- 16 is less expensive, same for the replacement heads.. However, the 16 body does break down & leak after a while.. the 30 body holds up better over time..
- A loose/unattached 16 doesn't leak when you're away from home for the day, like the 30 does.. At most, a loose 16 might leak a drop.. But I keep a few of them in a small ziploc bag, just in case.. Easy to carry a handful of flavors with you, nice & compact..
- The flavor of a 16 is much better than the 30.. You can pick out all the individual notes pretty easily.. Sometimes, it's almost overwhelming, so I vape VCV tobaccos from a flavor-muting 30, instead..
- I like the delrin (plastic) mouthpiece of the 16 better.. Don't like metal.. But the 16's is a bit skinny & short..
- The 30 can get a lot more gurgly/flooded than a 16.. And can't really lay it on its side, like you can a 16..
- A 16 is capable of dry hits.. But as long as you rest it on its side when the juice is low, or spin it horizontally a little from time to time to make sure the wicks are coated, you should be fine..
- Juice can collect around the mouthpieces of both, but just unscrewing it lets the juice go back down..
- Really good quality control on the 16 replacement heads.. A little worse for the 30.. I think I've gotten only 2 bad 16 heads in the past 7 months?
- Vapor production & hit are about the same, but 30 has a small edge..
- 16 has quicker & easier maintenance..
- I can (and do) have a boatload of flavors going in a bunch of 16's at the same time, really cheaply.. I have 9 going right now..
Enough comparison?
Anyway, keep in mind that these are inexpensive clearos.. They work well, but again, they're inexpensive clearos.. A 16 will run you $4-$6.. A 30 goes for $11-$13.. Even cheaper through FastTech.. But every topper has its pros & cons.. They work great for me, so I'd just rather spend my money on other stuff.. I also have large & thick hands & fingers, so I'm not sure coil building is for me..
Pick up 2 or 3 iClear 16's if you want, along with an equal number of replacement heads (I like the 2.1 ohm better).. Would run you $15-$20.. Throw 'em in your next order for whatever.. If you really hate them, they're not going to break the bank..
(Note: Get the original iClear 16.. I tried & hated the 16B.. and the 16D is rare & doesn't look to be all that great, either..)
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