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Verified Member Vote - Trader Option

Discussion in 'Member Classifieds and Swaps' started by j0ker, May 8, 2015.

Would you like return feedback be mandatory?

Poll closed May 12, 2015.
  1. Yes, I think return feedback should be required.

    95 vote(s)
    71.4%
  2. No, leave feedback as optional.

    38 vote(s)
    28.6%
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  1. mikepetro

    mikepetro Vape Geek Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  2. spartanstew

    spartanstew ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 29, 2013
    Wylie, Texas
    It was a nice rant though. :cool:
     
  3. j0ker

    j0ker Classifieds Manager Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sep 24, 2009
    MS Gulf Coast
    The way you describe this scenario is how it should be. The seller leaves buyer feedback, once the item arrives and inspected the buyer leaves feedback. You wouldn't be expected to leave feedback before you receive the item.

    In your example, if you weren't not happy but felt bad feedback was unnecessary, consider providing neutral. Maybe a brief explanation to the seller as to why you felt neutral was deemed appropriate or not. See the feedback system should be used regardless of the outcome.
     
  4. j0ker

    j0ker Classifieds Manager Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sep 24, 2009
    MS Gulf Coast
    The feedback system is only as good as the members that use it. Choosing to not leave neutral or bad feedback because you don't want to degrade someone's feedback is a bad idea. I'm not saying anyone should be harsh, try to give the seller the benefit of the doubt, everyone's perspective will be different. In the future your feedback could prevent someone else from being defrauded or someone else's feedback could save you.

    Also, I removed the 10 hour time limit, there should be no time limit now. Hopefully this will resolve some of the issues brought forward.

    I reduced the comment field from 10 character to 5 character requirement. (for those short-winded members :D)
     
  5. gpjoe

    gpjoe Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 30, 2013
    Up North
    OK, so I left some positive feedback for a member that sold me an item. He has not yet left feedback for me, yet I can see that his feedback has posted. Is the feedback only visible to me, or is the system not working as intended?

    I'm not worried about receiving my feedback from him as it has only been a very short time, but wondering why his feedback seems to have posted without reciprocal feedback.
     
  6. Splatnext

    Splatnext Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 30, 2013
    near the beach
    I have the same problem, I contacted the seller via pm, bought the item, never posted in the thread.Now I can't leave well deserved feed back.
     
  7. tmcase

    tmcase ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2011
    I thought deals made outside the classys was a no no. J0ker, please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  8. gpjoe

    gpjoe Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 30, 2013
    Up North
    I suspect that regardless of the answer, it probably happens all the time. I'm thinking that if you conduct business outside of the forum it's like it never happened and there is no feedback mechanism. I assume that the feedback system is in place only for those transactions completed within the classified forum, and to expect the system to allow for feedback under any other circumstances is kind of outside it's intended use. I can't sell someone a used vaporized over the phone and expect to leave feedback here just because we both happen to be members of the forum.

    Besides, I don't know if that was ever possible, even under the old system, and why should it be? I could theoretically inflate my feedback score by asking friends here to give me feedback for these undocumented "transactions" that never actually happened (oh, I forgot, they happened via PM....riiiiight....). That would essentially destroy the credibility of the feedback system.

    Anyway - a lot of that is opinion and speculation on my part and I could very well be all wet.
     
  9. gpjoe

    gpjoe Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 30, 2013
    Up North
    That's different, I think. The issue posted by Phone Guy, if I am understanding correctly, is that he can't leave feedback for an item he bought that was never listed for sale in the classified forum. For example - I see you post in a thread (not in the classified forum) about one of your mods and I PM you and ask if you want to sell it to me, and you agree. It was all done via PM with no thread in the classified forum to document the transaction.
     
  10. Phone Guy

    Phone Guy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 25, 2013
    Arlington, Texas - USA
    Yes. I think deals like that happen a lot. Maybe I'm wrong? I think with the new software, feedback should be (and can be?) flexible and valuable. I know I personally respect the ratings, and the people who frequent ECF. More so than "other" forums. ;)
     
  11. j0ker

    j0ker Classifieds Manager Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sep 24, 2009
    MS Gulf Coast
    @gpjoe Send me a PM with the member's name you left feedback for please.
     
  12. j0ker

    j0ker Classifieds Manager Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sep 24, 2009
    MS Gulf Coast
    This was announced - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/the-classifieds-blog.366198/page-2#post-15739302

    The point of this is, once you have posted we know you were involved in the ad. This is very helpful to staff when a complaint is launched. So if nothing else just post "Sent you a PM" or something similar.
     
  13. j0ker

    j0ker Classifieds Manager Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sep 24, 2009
    MS Gulf Coast
    This is partially true. If there is an ad in the Classifieds, you are welcome to conclude the arrangements in private, after you make a post in the thread :D.

    If there is no ad and you buy/sell/trade in private, there's no point in contact staff, there's nothing we can do to help you and someone could end up being banned.
     
  14. COHgirl

    COHgirl Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 25, 2012
    Kansas
    FWIW, I was the seller and I had thought I left feedback after receiving payment. The buyer left feedback after receiving their package. I had an Alert that the buyer had left feedback and that I needed to do the same. Doh! :facepalm:

    I appreciated the nudge! :)
     
  15. rhammer186

    rhammer186 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 9, 2015
    NY
    I have a question that may have been asked and answered, so my apologies in advance for the nuisance. I noticed that on my actual profile page (not the rating listed with the avatar on each post) my "total feedback score" is 9 (100%) but my total # of positive feedback is 10. I have already reciprocated all "pending" feedback.

    Are there some deals, like trades, that are not included in the total score?

    Perhaps I did something wrong with the feedback left for me that needed my response. I went to their "pending" feedback and selected "submit feedback for this deal". Is this the correct method to go forward with it, or is there now a different way to link your feedback due to the new temporary trial requirements?
     
  16. spartanstew

    spartanstew ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 29, 2013
    Wylie, Texas
    If feedback is left by the same person it's only counted once.
     
  17. rhammer186

    rhammer186 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 9, 2015
    NY
    Even if it was for a different sale/deal?
     
  18. spartanstew

    spartanstew ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 29, 2013
    Wylie, Texas
    Yes, even for a different transaction
     
  19. rhammer186

    rhammer186 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 9, 2015
    NY
    Thank you! I didnt know that.
     
  20. tmcase

    tmcase ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2011
    Don't feel bad. I didn't know that either until I questioned j0ker about it. :)
     
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