Very afraid.

[Hanslought]

I started vaping about 2 months ago and haven't had a cigarette since. It has also started becoming a hobby of mine. One of the first real ones I have had. I have started thinking about the FDA situation and have started getting afraid for ecigs next year. I had a lot of gear and juice lined up to buy but am not sure what is to become of ecigs if/when they become regulated. Sells online will be no more and all that money I have spent on mods and such will be worthless now. No stores near me sell any juice or any vape gear for that matter. Not really sure what to do. Should I just buy that provari or silver bullet and not worry to much about FDA?

 

[kiwivap]

As I see it you have two options:
1. You have what you need to stay off cigs now - so enjoy vaping with the gear you have.
2. You like collecting. Enjoy buying some more gear.

 

[gavind4]

YES!! (provari) and get a "did" rba from MMvapors.com,glass tank from ibtanked,lots of kanthal wire & ss. mesh. You can make your own juice,you have 5 posts now, read the diy forums. Are there any caves near Gainesville? If you make the juice I have the cave!

 

[fortytofive]

I feel ya bro (/sista)...the thought of it is pretty rough. I would hate to go back to analogs full time.
Realistically though...they ain't going anywhere. States have already tried to vote them down but nobody is going for it so far.

This might help from wikipedia:

American Association of Public Health Physicians

As of April 2010, The American Association of Public Health Physicians (AAPHP) supports electronic cigarettes sales to adults, "because the possibility exists to save the lives of four million of the eight million current adult American smokers who will otherwise die of a tobacco-related illness over the next twenty years." However, the AAPHP is against sales to minors.[28] The AAPHP recommends that the FDA reclassify the electronic cigarette as a tobacco product (as opposed to a drug/device combination).[29][30]

This kind of statement is a big deal because making ecigs illegal is essentially saying that the risk is greater than the 4 million potentially saved lives. Don't see this happening anytime soon, even with the endless funds that big tobacco has.

It's the end of an era, breath easy

 

[brad6622]

I'm scared about this also. I have way to much gear

 

[nobutts1]

If all of us on this site would just sign our signature to CASSA, that would help alot. Signatures are an active measure to offset the government. So simple. Dont just FLAP on here, get active with just your signature... done deal. you voted.

 

[tidegirl]

If all of us on this site would just sign our signature to CASSA, that would help alot. Signatures are an active measure to offset the government. So simple. Dont just FLAP on here, get active with just your signature... done deal. you voted.

Links help with that kind of post.

 

[Strigoi]

I'm not too worried about it. Even if they were illegal, it's easy enough to DIY damn near everything.

I'd rather quit vaping than go back to smoking. I have zero desire to have a cigarette at this point though.

 

[Ginsu]

I guess the FDA rather sell Analogs over Ecigs and see people get effected by 2nd hand smoke and so forth .. YAPPPP land of the free ..

 

[bivie]

One thing that really needs to be considered as far as classifying ecigs is that not everyone
who vapes uses nicotine. So the effort to reclassify it as a tobacco product is just more
ignorance, stupidity and control.

 

[dragonbone]

I started vaping about 2 months ago and haven't had a cigarette since. It has also started becoming a hobby of mine. One of the first real ones I have had. I have started thinking about the FDA situation and have started getting afraid for ecigs next year. I had a lot of gear and juice lined up to buy but am not sure what is to become of ecigs if/when they become regulated. Sells online will be no more and all that money I have spent on mods and such will be worthless now. No stores near me sell any juice or any vape gear for that matter. Not really sure what to do. Should I just buy that provari or silver bullet and not worry to much about FDA?

Never thought of it like that. But now that you mention it... If online vendors closed down, (although I personally think that is 100% impossible) big ticket PV's will have a higher value, not lesser.
Also we all know how to 'rebuild' rebuildable atties and tanks now. So the cat is out of the bag. Also stocking up on some plain high nic juice and learning to DIY would be an option. Wicking material, wire, batteries, VG, flavorings etc. will always be available - come what may.

 

[RosaJ]

I don't think e-cigs are going the way of the dinosaurs any time soon. In the meantime, wean yourself off of cigarettes, until you no longer smoke altogether if you haven't already. Yes, get that provari if you can afford it, they're great and they have a one year warranty and you can buy extra year if you want to. Have a plan to cut down on the nicotine in your juice, that way you won't have withdrawals when the zombie apocalypse happens (this is a joke, of course).

I've been vaping 0 nic juice for the last 4 days. I make my own ejuice and am vaping new flavors without nic. My hair isn't falling off, and I haven't thrashed out at anyone yet because of it.

Learn to diy, it's really a lot of fun, and food flavoring most likely won't be banned. If anything, the only thing they can regulate is the sale of he nicotine liquid.

Relax, enjoy your vape and breathe easier!

 

[daddytwigs]

 

[bubbadreier]

Let's see.... Buy a good mechanical mod and/or a ton of 510 connectors (you can make mechanical mods from copper tubing and a spring) and buy a nice rebuildable attomizer and/or a ton of cheap ones. And buy 4-5 gallons of nic juice and store it in a freezer.

Flavorings can't be outlawed. Used in too many other things.
Pg is used in the farming industries and many others, so it wouldn't be outlawed.
Vg is used as a skin product and as a natural sweetener, so you are good there as well.
That has the juice taken care of since you have all the nic base your need.

kanthal wire and the other one that starts with an N wouldn't be outlawed, it is used in small electronics.
Cotton will never be outlawed
SS mesh, not too sure on that one :/ probably not though
With your RBAs you should be good for a long time.

Batteries will not be outlawed because of e-cigs...

And done! No need to be worried!! Even if they do decide to outlaw e-cigs and liquids, it wouldn't be overnight. So prepare and you should be fine.

So the cheapest route would be to buy a bunch of 510 connectors and gallons of nic juice and a bunch or RBAs. Then all you have to do is learn to DIY juice, learn to build a copper tube mod, and learn to build your own coils. Those three things (510,nic,rba) are the only things you need to buy in advance


P.S.- oh and if you can get off nic and down to 0mg here soon you would only have to buy the 510 connectors and RBAs in advance

 

[elmattias]

well i guess i'll jump in on this.....

first off, i feel that the FDA wishes to classify this as a tobacco product to tax it, not abolish it....big tobacco has already showed it's hand by buying blu....they would simply assimilate as opposed to fight....the problem is big pharmaceuticals (IMHO)....as they wish to classify them as a smoking cessation device, which would be an absolute bombshell if their regulations went through, as those products are taxed HIGHER (60 bucks for a pack of nicotine gum...ijs)...all that being said, i don't see it going anywhere other than it will become more expensive (unless you DIY)

ALL that being said, we know what wick materials we need, we know what wire we need to wrap coils, we have rebuildable atomizers, rebuildable vivi novas, rebuildable genesis type devices, rebuildable GG mechanicals, and we have amazon where we can purchase the wick and coil for all of this stuff, and hey, while we're over on amazon...we can grab PG and VG as well, and we can get flavorings all over the place....the only thing that i could see being hard to find would be the nicotine....and hell, for all it's worth, i'd rather vape zero nic than to go back to analogs, or to quit vaping vs. going back to analogs.

in summary, EVERY vaper should be a member of CASAA, they are the ones that will save us, they are the ones on the front lines helping us as vapers, and if you have a local B+M shop, you should tell them about CASAA if they don't have signs up and info there....we need to stick together guys, i don't see vaping going anywhere, but, it is an uphill battle for us, one that we can overcome....and i think our chances are pretty good if we band together and show the government we mean buisiness....and believe it or not, they will listen, they listened when the internet was blacked out earlier this year in opposition of SOPA/PIPA, i think they'd listen again if CASAA stands up, with all of us unified saying NO to these regulations.

 

[Hanslought]

well. I know the devices won't go anywhere or ecigs in general(gas station ones ). I was really only talking about ejuice. Are you even able to mail tobacco/buy tobacco products anymore online? Which FDA will classify ejuice.

 

[kiwivap]

well. I know the devices won't go anywhere or ecigs in general(gas station ones ). I was really only talking about ejuice. Are you even able to mail tobacco/buy tobacco products anymore online? Which FDA will classify ejuice.

Ejuice is available online. And if it wasn't you could still DIY.

 

[Doogmar]

Btw its not if, it's when the FDA steps in. Hopefully groups like CASAA can make sure the regulation isn't too restricting, but they will be fighting the deep pockets of the pharmaceutical companies. Haven't seen the link in this thread so here you go:

CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association

 

[elmattias]

well. I know the devices won't go anywhere or ecigs in general(gas station ones ). I was really only talking about ejuice. Are you even able to mail tobacco/buy tobacco products anymore online? Which FDA will classify ejuice.

they have to have shipping options....its just fact, how do you think tobacco gets on the shelves? as far as the FDA classifying juice as a tobacco product, i don't think it's possible, for two reasons: 1. it is not and does not contain tobacco and 2. it does not necessarily contain any nicotine, most will, but not all.

that being said, i don't see how they can lawfully do that (but it is the government, they don't really care about laws anymore, but that's another thread)...i just don't see how they are going to do it is all....am i worried? a little....am i stressing over the situation? no...i think the changes that are coming won't be that huge of a deal, and that possibly, the exposure could bring vaping into the mainstream if the FDA does not ban e-cigs.....in which case making supplies even more accessible....but one can only hope

 

[SilentEcho13]

DIYing is your best option. Not only do you have the ability to surprise yourself with some good mixes, but you save money. Down the road, there's no way to ban PG, VG, or concentrates. As for ecig hardware, I would stock up on some rebuildable atomizer materials, a couple of good mods, a compact unit, and a place to keep them in.

Finding nicotine in the future shouldn't be impossible either.

Either way, I wouldn't worry about it too much at all. The FDA has had a pretty rough time banning or even regulating these things.