Hi Imeo. I missed out on the Penelope V4 and I want to know from you when you will be able to send more to Vassilis? I know you have a very long list of products to make but I just want to ask where in your list will the next batch of Penelope V4 is. Thank you very much!
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In about 1-2 days, a preorder will start for penelope V4 my dear yaya. Units will be ready for shipping to customers at 10-15 of April, that is in about 1,5 month 
I figured that was the case.
Will VIR autodetect a dual battery situation, or does the manual have to be updated with a new feature requiring clicks to toggle?
Will VIR autodetect a dual battery situation, or does the manual have to be updated with a new feature requiring clicks to toggle?
yes AB, VIR will autodetect 2 batteries (3,7 volt each in parallel, 3,7 volts each in series, 3 volt each in parallel and in series) and of course 1 single battery
Finally caught up on this thread! I have been away from ECF for months, but I come back to check on the status of VIR
Imeo - i think a box is a very good idea. 18650 box mod can be very small and many people are asking for box mods these days. The problem is that the DNA40 chip has bad quality control and the SX chips are unreliable and inefficient. Give people quality and efficiency in a chip that can be put into a box and you have a big winner! I'm sure if you do it in GG style it will be a winner. There are so many C-frame boxes out now and the market needs a refresh.
I used to hate box mods with a passion back when I first tried them. I didn't like the size at all. But they have gotten much smaller now, and much more comfortable to hold. Single 18650 is the way to go. If not single 18650, then single 26650. Dual 18650 makes it too large.
Looks like we're very close to the VIR now - good! My Tilemahos & Esterigon have been waiting!
I bought three spools of this Titanium wire. I believe it is Ti2 because it is an alloy. Will it work with VIR or do I need to find another place to source my Ti1 wire?
I know VIR will not work with mesh, but will it work with other similar wicks like porous ceramic or xc116? I think the longevity of non-cellulose materials provides a BIG benefit. Cellulose materials like cotton or rayon will decompose in your atty, and I'm not a fan of knowing that. Silica seems the best bet for me, but there's always the worry of silicosis.
Maybe once you're done with VIR you can get a REAL wicking material for healthy vapers? Lol there are too many good options but nothing great!
Imeo - i think a box is a very good idea. 18650 box mod can be very small and many people are asking for box mods these days. The problem is that the DNA40 chip has bad quality control and the SX chips are unreliable and inefficient. Give people quality and efficiency in a chip that can be put into a box and you have a big winner! I'm sure if you do it in GG style it will be a winner. There are so many C-frame boxes out now and the market needs a refresh.
I used to hate box mods with a passion back when I first tried them. I didn't like the size at all. But they have gotten much smaller now, and much more comfortable to hold. Single 18650 is the way to go. If not single 18650, then single 26650. Dual 18650 makes it too large.
Looks like we're very close to the VIR now - good! My Tilemahos & Esterigon have been waiting!
I bought three spools of this Titanium wire. I believe it is Ti2 because it is an alloy. Will it work with VIR or do I need to find another place to source my Ti1 wire?
I know VIR will not work with mesh, but will it work with other similar wicks like porous ceramic or xc116? I think the longevity of non-cellulose materials provides a BIG benefit. Cellulose materials like cotton or rayon will decompose in your atty, and I'm not a fan of knowing that. Silica seems the best bet for me, but there's always the worry of silicosis.
Maybe once you're done with VIR you can get a REAL wicking material for healthy vapers? Lol there are too many good options but nothing great!
Finally caught up on this thread! I have been away from ECF for months, but I come back to check on the status of VIR
Imeo - i think a box is a very good idea. 18650 box mod can be very small and many people are asking for box mods these days. The problem is that the DNA40 chip has bad quality control and the SX chips are unreliable and inefficient. Give people quality and efficiency in a chip that can be put into a box and you have a big winner! I'm sure if you do it in GG style it will be a winner. There are so many C-frame boxes out now and the market needs a refresh.
I used to hate box mods with a passion back when I first tried them. I didn't like the size at all. But they have gotten much smaller now, and much more comfortable to hold. Single 18650 is the way to go. If not single 18650, then single 26650. Dual 18650 makes it too large.
Looks like we're very close to the VIR now - good! My Tilemahos & Esterigon have been waiting!
I bought three spools of this Titanium wire. I believe it is Ti2 because it is an alloy. Will it work with VIR or do I need to find another place to source my Ti1 wire?
I know VIR will not work with mesh, but will it work with other similar wicks like porous ceramic or xc116? I think the longevity of non-cellulose materials provides a BIG benefit. Cellulose materials like cotton or rayon will decompose in your atty, and I'm not a fan of knowing that. Silica seems the best bet for me, but there's always the worry of silicosis.
Maybe once you're done with VIR you can get a REAL wicking material for healthy vapers? Lol there are too many good options but nothing great!
+ 1 to a GG "box" mod, well, the word "box" between quotes, is because it hasn't to be literally a box, I know that if some day Imeo changes his mind, it will be something totally different and cutting edge, Imeo likes to innovate and break paradigms, something like a:
The GG2
I did not like either the "box" style mods, but I have to admit I was curious about them, I was able to play with some homemade SX350 box mods, mosfet ones, a Vapor Shark and a Vapor Flask, as I have never had any mod with electronics (the closest thing is a Kick v1), I decided to get two of the most popular ones, to see why is all the fuss around the box mods, so I got a Flask and a Shark.
I'm not going to comment what I think about those mods nor about the Evolv DNA40 chip, but I can say that definitely I would like a GG "box" style mod, with VIR inside, the quality, design and style of GG.
Agreed. The market is going this way because it allows maximum battery life in minimum height. I think VIR into a box mod is a natural evolution, too, and something that can easily put the VIR chip itself in the mind of a much wider audience. Right now everyone is looking for the next big high-end box and jumping on every list that comes up immediately. A GG box mod would not only have a much longer history of quality behind it than these other box mod companies, but it would push the VIR chip and healthy vaping to a very big audience.
And make a TON of money in the meantime. Money is needed to keep these experiments going and evolve healthy vaping into something even better. Right now all the money is in the box mods market.
I agree. The year 2014 was the year if box mods. Just because people were able to make them small and effective. Imeo can do even better. He can give u a box with VIR smaller than a pack of cigarettes
Box mods have definitely improved massively lately. Improved design, sleek and smaller. But still normal people just laugh at them at first sight and I have to agree I don't see the appeal.
VIR on Esterigon with stacked 18350; excellent performance and awesome battery life. What does a box mod offer over this?
Having said this, I am curious to see what Imeo will come up with since he said he will be making one eventually.
VIR on Esterigon with stacked 18350; excellent performance and awesome battery life. What does a box mod offer over this?
Having said this, I am curious to see what Imeo will come up with since he said he will be making one eventually.
I had to laugh when reading normal people. Normal was when the ecig was like the size and looks of a normal cigarette. If boxes aren't normal, I think people are also laughing at vapers holding a 10 cm long tube with 23 mm diameter. Nothing normal about vaping all together believe me
.lets be realistic here Seek. I have to agree with you. The reasons?
Battery life with 2 stucked 18350 is way better than 1x18650 and it has the same length, exactly as you said.
Screen: Totally useless. Why?
1. it shows the ampere
2. It shows the volts
3. It shows the resistance
4. It shows the temperature
A vaper wants to vape. If he wants to look at a screen he can buy a smart phone.
No one wants to know the amperes
A few people may want to see the volts but who doesnt carry 1 more battery with him?
With VIR you dont need to know the resistance because all of them vape the same
No one wants to know the temperature. Lets say that you vape at 220 Celsious degrees and you dont like it. You will increase, even if you dont know the level of the temperature. The same you will do if you know the level of the temperature. There is no difference of what you will do if you want to increase or decrease.
A vaper really needs to vape without being annoyed with screens that you have to check often to see what happened. A led that hits your eyes immediately shows you what you have to do the easy way.
Screens were made when we needed them. Vir doesnt need it because of its temp control. Screen is a gadget, nothing more. And its one more thing that can go wrong or its glass may brake from a fall when mech style electronics doesnt care a lot about falls.
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I had to laugh when reading normal people. Normal was when the ecig was like the size and looks of a normal cigarette. If boxes aren't normal, I think people are also laughing at vapers holding a 10 cm long tube with 23 mm diameter. Nothing normal about vaping all together believe me
I disagree a little aal
be sure that if someone makes an e-cig at the size of an analog, noone would vape GGTS or boxes. Thats what I am trying to archive with Proteus
I've exposed non-vapers to all kinds of mods throughout the years but noone has ever laughed at me except when I exposed them to my friend's box mod (one of the decent ones). That is what I meant by normal peoples' reaction and I can't say I fault them.I had to laugh when reading normal people. Normal was when the ecig was like the size and looks of a normal cigarette. If boxes aren't normal, I think people are also laughing at vapers holding a 10 cm long tube with 23 mm diameter. Nothing normal about vaping all together believe me
My dream go to box: VIR inside, Wings outside, microstick format ratio (must fit in my hand palm), P4 and Inax 16mm compatible, with enough mAh to last half a day vaping @270˚C with juice control wide open.
I'm tempted to add USB rechargeable, but I'd have to wait for VIR V2 I guess
Some will call it an ugly device, it's the one I'm dreaming of ... to each his own
I'm tempted to add USB rechargeable, but I'd have to wait for VIR V2 I guess
Some will call it an ugly device, it's the one I'm dreaming of ... to each his own
I disagree a little aal
be sure that if someone makes an e-cig at the size of an analog, noone would vape GGTS or boxes. Thats what I am trying to archive with Proteus
I think it depends on the person Imeo. I am all about only having to carry 1 thing meaning no extra juice or batteries to be able to last at least 12 hours. If you could make a device that size that somehow had enough juice and battery life I would probably never "need" anything else. I am probably backwards of many people but for me Proteus will be an around the house device where I can be 5 ft away from a charger/juice bottle. A big GG with VIR and a larger tank will be my out and about 90% of the time used mod though.
Again this is just my .02 though and the great thing about vaping is with the variety of stuff available there is something that will suit everyone's need.
Well said!! I just want it to work reliably and be able to take a hit.
Imagining you have this now, what would be the next thing you'd wish for? To last 24 H. After that you would want something that lasts one week and so on. Realistically thinking, I assume that we will always have to service our cigs on the go, at least in our life time.
I too agree that the best e-cig doesn't have to follow the looks of an analog, afterall vaping is nothing like smoking so why should they look exactly the same anyway. I think function is pretty much nailed so far and we need to focus on form of ecigs. Unfortunately for me box mods are not what I want to use too but that doesn't mean that I reject their purpose. Who knows in what way they'll contribute in shaping the best e-cig.
Edit: To me it looks like there are a handful of ecig modders that think like this but I'm happy Imeo is one of them.
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On the DNA40, the screen is invaluable to learning how to use the device, it guides you as to how to balance the power versus the temperature so that when you find a vape that you like, you can easily replicate it going forward. It also let's you know when there is a problem with the resistance of the coil, eg a loose contact develops over time.
Obviously I don't know whether VIR needs the same learning curve and feedback to the user but I do think that some people might find it useful to help develop their usage of a new technology. Plus I love box mods as well as tubes - so I'd be in favour if Imeo decides that he wants to go in that direction
(I also think that he'd make a lot more money selling the chip to other modders if it has the screen option)
Obviously I don't know whether VIR needs the same learning curve and feedback to the user but I do think that some people might find it useful to help develop their usage of a new technology. Plus I love box mods as well as tubes - so I'd be in favour if Imeo decides that he wants to go in that direction
(I also think that he'd make a lot more money selling the chip to other modders if it has the screen option)
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