Vision Stardust newbie help

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mjt

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I just got a couple of LR Vision eGo clearomizers to go with my new eGo-Twist 1000mah. I have no idea what is the best way to deal with these things. I filled up the first tank with BWB Backo and vaped it a 4v. I got an almost alcohol taste and stopped vaping right away. I'm niot sure if I should have rinsed it, or do I need to let it wick up longer. Do I tilt the tank when the level goes down to get the liquid onto the wick? Can someone give me the lowdown on basic care and feeding on these things for an idiot? I've pretty much only used Boge cartomizers. Also, is there any possible issues I could run into with these and my Twist?



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I just got a couple of LR Vision eGo clearomizers to go with my new eGo-Twist 1000mah. I have no idea what is the best way to deal with these things. I filled up the first tank with BWB Backo and vaped it a 4v. I got an almost alcohol taste and stopped vaping right away. I'm niot sure if I should have rinsed it, or do I need to let it wick up longer. Do I tilt the tank when the level goes down to get the liquid onto the wick? Can someone give me the lowdown on basic care and feeding on these things for an idiot? I've pretty much only used Boge cartomizers. Also, is there any possible issues I could run into with these and my Twist?






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I always rinse with hot water first, blow out the extra water in the tube then let it air dry- I tilt it a little to fill it then let the wicks soak for a bit. I keep mine topped off when it gets below half. My voltage is less than yours so someone else can help with that. I love these so hope you do, also. Happy vaping!
 

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When you say LR, are you talking about the 2.1 - 2.4 Ohm, or the 1.7 - 2.0 Ohm? I think there are 2 levels of LR, although I am not sure if that is the CE4 or the Vision Stardust that offers the much lower resistance version. I would just mention in my experience, anything less than 2 Ohms should not be vaped higher than 3.7 volts, or it tastes burnt to me. Other people may have different experiences, and your experience may be different since I think you said you are vaping tobacco flavored e-liquids, I vape fruit or sweet coffee beverage flavored e-liquids.

I have some of both clearomizer types, because I didn't realize they were different, and I ended up buying from 2 different vendors (the CE4 and the Vision Stardust, look the same but made by different manufacturer/supplier). It never occurred to me until I started reading posts here why some of my clearomizers had a tighter draw, and others a looser draw. Apparently a CE4 and Vision Stardust are not created entirely equally.

I use a KGO, it has a similar (almost identical) adapter for attaching atties, cartos, and clearos, as an eGo does. I have also tried using these clearomizers on a generic version of the Lavatube, a variable volt tube mod without the Lavatube label and trademark. I do not know if it is being manufactured by the same factory/supplier as the original Lavatube, but I have heard they perform identically. I actually didn't notice any performance improvement vaping a LR (2.1 - 2.4 Ohm) CE4 or Stardust at higher voltages than my 3.7 volt KGO. Anyway, the Variable Voltage Tube Mod will monitor the rating of anything you attach to it, and if you apply more volts than it can safely handle, it automatically drops to 3.7 volts to protect you from blowing up your attachments.

I found my Vision Stardust tasted better on my KGO at 3.7 volts, than they did on my Tube Mod at 4.0 - 4.2 volts producing more heat. I also vape e-liquids that don't taste like tobacco, and are fruit and sweet coffee beverage flavors, so those tend to taste a little burnt when they get too hot. I lift my PV level or higher, and make sure that liquid is always touching the wicks, I have experienced dry hits if the wicks are allowed to rise above the e-liquid exposed to air. I have heard some people complain, because they like to hold their PV down over their chin while they vape, instead of holding it level. If you hold your PV level, and your Stardust clearomizer is at least between 1.0ml - 1.2ml full, the liquid will flow back far enough to cover the wicks. Sometimes when I haven't felt like topping the clearo yet, I have let the liquid level get lower than that, which meant I had to lift my PV really high before the wicks had liquid covering them. Doing this can rarely cause liquid which has condensed in the drip tip to spill into my mouth, giving me a couple drops of intense flavor in my mouth, and more nicotine at once than I prefer.

When I open a clearomizer from the package and fill it, I have never prepared it in advance as far as cleaning and rinsing, this is the first I have heard of that before. I do let them wick for at least 10 minutes before I start vaping, so they don't start out too dry. That has always worked ok for me, but it couldn't hurt to rinse it and let it dry either, if you are very tidy about that sort of thing, and have the extreme patience and time.

I only put one flavor in each one. So far, I have only used them for 6-8 weeks, and only recently noticed that one of several was still getting hot, but making less flavor and vapor. Until tonight, I did not know that cleaning and dry burning could lengthen their life, and make the flavor and vapor come back. I know the coil still gets hot, I can feel it, it just isn't making the level of flavor and vapor I got when I poured the liquid into a brand new clearomizer.

I found a few videos on YouTube on getting the tube out, but I didn't see them put it back in, I wonder how you can tell it's really in there? I wonder if it's worth the extra trouble now that they make CE5s with replaceable innards? The reviews I have read so far are very promising.

Something I do every time I top off these clearomizers, and before I vape after they have been sitting for a while, I turn them over and over and watch the air bubble mix the liquid at the bottom, with the liquid at the top. If you have any clear liquids, you will notice they get a little brown from contact with the coil, and probably creating carbon buildup. If you let the liquid settle at the bottom, I think they lose their flavor, I think the flavor lasts longer if you constantly mix the liquid at the top with the liquid that settles at the bottom. I vape several ml a day, probably more than 5 - 10ml of e-liquid, I am not only as much a chain vapor, as I have too much free time while I am sick and not working, and don't sleep enough. I can be totally incorrect about the flavor settling when the liquid touches the coil that doesn't turn into vapor, but I just noticed that when I added new e-liquid, the stuff at the top was clear, and the stuff at the bottom had a slight brown tint. I mix it all together so that the fresh flavor is evenly distributed, tilting and rolling the clearomizer over and over again.

For me, once I tried a clearomizer, I couldn't go back to cartomizers ever again. Clearomizers are as close as I have gotten to the flavor of dripping on an atomizer, without carrying a bottle of liquid around with me, and counting drops and being careful not to miss the atomizer or get liquid somewhere it doesn't belong.
 

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The one thing the stardusts give is a flavorful vape, so something's off here. Let's look at some basic things...

1. Stardusts (IMO) don't like thick juices. BWB juices come in 70PG/30VG, so that's probably not the issue.
2. Stardusts vape the best when they are tilted during the draw so that the wicks are touching the juice....this enables you to wick in juice as you're vaping out the existing that's in the wick.
3. For me, and I think for most people, the LR stardust's sweet spot is 3.8 volts....anything higher tends to burn.

You say you're getting dry hits. I've used a lot of stardusts, and the only time I get dry hits is when I get caught vaping while not tipping to re-wick the juice. You're not getting much flavor, which could definitely go with not getting the juice sufficiently wicked. How much juice have you put through it so far? Have you only tried the one juice?

Also keep in mind that duds do happen. It sounds like you've only used one, is that the case?

Don't give up on these things, they really do give great flavor and are really convenient for on the go.
 

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I've just tried my first clearos, so I'm very new to these as well. I can't tell you the optimal thing to do, but only share the experience I've had. I had real issues with the filler type cartos like boge. So I decided to try the stardusts, and the phoenix's. I got two stardusts, one was the older type, short wick, colored tube (the one that can crack with acidic juices), and the newer long wick type. Both were LR since I have a Riva batt (ego clone). Both stardusts gave me excellent flavor right off the bat! I don't tilt mine to vape, but every couple of vapes I do just turn it upside down, not completely, but just tilt it down a bit for the juice to get to the wick (on the short one), but also I think to the coil. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong about that part. But it seems even on the long wick one even when it was full and the wicks were in the juice when it was completely vertical, if I tilted it down a bit every so often, I got a much nicer vape. Every review I've seen of these the folks do say that they work best right around 3.7v Like GWG said, maybe you got a dud. I would try the other one, and maybe even a different juice if this juice is new to you. If it's not, then the same juice. I had an issue with the phoenix type ones. Everyone was saying they had great flavor, I had nearly no flavor from those. I let them sit a couple days while I used the stardust, and when I tried them again the flavor was awesome! Since I was using new juice, it may have been that the juice just needed a few days to steep. Or maybe they just needed to be "broken in" Whatever it was, I love them now. Good luck!
 

mjt

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The one thing the stardusts give is a flavorful vape, so something's off here. Let's look at some basic things...

1. Stardusts (IMO) don't like thick juices. BWB juices come in 70PG/30VG, so that's probably not the issue.
2. Stardusts vape the best when they are tilted during the draw so that the wicks are touching the juice....this enables you to wick in juice as you're vaping out the existing that's in the wick.
3. For me, and I think for most people, the LR stardust's sweet spot is 3.8 volts....anything higher tends to burn.

You say you're getting dry hits. I've used a lot of stardusts, and the only time I get dry hits is when I get caught vaping while not tipping to re-wick the juice. You're not getting much flavor, which could definitely go with not getting the juice sufficiently wicked. How much juice have you put through it so far? Have you only tried the one juice?

Also keep in mind that duds do happen. It sounds like you've only used one, is that the case?

Don't give up on these things, they really do give great flavor and are really convenient for on the go.

I haven't even gone through half a tank, because it's not enjoyable to vape. Yes, I have only used one.
 

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I haven't even gone through half a tank, because it's not enjoyable to vape. Yes, I have only used one.

Then I might be inclined to suggest, like Debadoo said, and try the second one....possibly even with a different juice. There really isn't much to these. Fill them up, cap them off, I personally tilt them and do a dry pull or two, then vape away. I have started up several dozen of these things, never waited to wick (though I know it's a popular thing to do). I'm thinking either that first one is a dud, or you have abnormally thick juice there.
 

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I have noticed that if I don't tighten the top it works a lot better. I screw the top on but leave it a little lax. I had a problem with the dry burn and not good wicking till I figured that out. Just have to be careful not to let juice in the air hole at the top. They do do better when full. But I like them a lot and I use the standard and not low resistance.
 
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