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VooPoo Drag with Juggernaut Kanthal A1 problems

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  1. Cuchuun

    Cuchuun Full Member

    Oct 18, 2018
    I have a problem with my setup. I have a Vandy Vape Bonza RDA and a VooPoo Drag.
    So, my build worked fine with thin Kanthal A1, 9 spins.
    I bought some pre-made Juggernaut Kanthal A1 coils, 5 spins. It gives me 0.26 ohm, 4.1 volts and it doesn't give me much to inhale and it tends to spit a lot.
    What could be the problem?
     
  2. Eskie

    Eskie ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2016
    NY
    What wattage are you vaping at. The displayed voltage isn't all that helpful unless you're in a variable voltage setup, which I don't believe the Drag offers (probably has Bypass though). So assuming you're in wattage mode (power mode) it sounds like you need to turn the wattage up.
     
  3. Cuchuun

    Cuchuun Full Member

    Oct 18, 2018
    I currently have 60 watts in. If you need picture of my build, let me know.
     
  4. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    Sounds like you’re running it too hot. The only clapton coil I run I do at 2.35v
     
  5. Cuchuun

    Cuchuun Full Member

    Oct 18, 2018
    Oh, my bad, I have dual-coil setup. Forgot to mention it.
     
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  6. Skunk!

    Skunk! Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 25, 2014
    Las Vegas
    A picture would be helpful, plus I always like build pics. Juggernauts are usually pretty massive coils. Probably need more power to heat them up. They also have a lot of shape. In my experience the less smooth the wire is the more it will spit. I like fused claptons with a 38 or 40 outer wrap.
     
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  7. Cuchuun

    Cuchuun Full Member

    Oct 18, 2018
    I found the reason to it, thank you for the notice. It tends to spit a lot and apparently they were bad coils.
     
  8. Punk In Drublic

    Punk In Drublic Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2018
    Toronto, ON
    The brand or specs of the Juggernaut coil would be more helpful than a picture.

    Is 0.26 ohm a per coil reading or for both? The resistance of a coil is not all that matters – you also have the mass of the coil which contributes to the heat capacity of the coil. The higher the mass, the higher the heat capacity – the higher the heat capacity the harder it is for the coil to reach optimum temperature…and the longer it takes the coil to cool down.

    A Juggernaut is 2 Clapton wires in parallel wrapped with a ribbon. Finding a typical Kanthal 5 wrap 3mm ID Juggernaut coil off the web and entering it’s awg and wire into Steam Engine I see a Heat Capacity of 218 mj/k…that is massive! Not saying this is the Heat Capacity of your coils but gives a general idea. If you like super hot vapes then a Juggernaut could be your thing. In comparison a 9 wrap, 3mm ID 26awg Kanthal coil is only 35mj/k
     
  9. jersey_emt

    jersey_emt Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 26, 2009
    New Jersey, USA
    Depending on the construction of the coils, 60 watts might be sufficient for a single coil. But for a dual, you're going to need a lot more power.

    Most people think that spitting means too much power, but it is often the reverse.
     
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  10. Cuchuun

    Cuchuun Full Member

    Oct 18, 2018
    It's not spitting anymore, I found out that the problem was in the coils and it was doing short circuit, cause one of the legs touched another's. Still new to it. Anyways, you said it could have more watts in? How much would you say approximately?
     
  11. uthinkofsomething

    uthinkofsomething Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jun 7, 2015
    Toledo, Ohio
    To find out your optimum wattage, start low, maybe the 60 you are used to, and slowly turn it up a couple watts at a time, take a couple puffs, turn it up a couple more watts, take a couple puffs, until the vapor gets too hot, is too much, or you start getting dry hits. Then turn it back down to where you enjoyed it the most.
     
  12. BrotherBob

    BrotherBob ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Sunnyvale,CA,USA
    Welcome and glad you joined.
    The information below may help you to obtain a good foundation of vaping knowledge.
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