VR Wood Mods bottom feeders kiwi style

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element77

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Anymore of this lying around?
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Got all my kiwis up and running again after a fdv order came in, built my first peko too.
Its nice to have a full house again:)
 
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Thanks for educational read Spydro. Nice to know we have a two resident wood gurus in the house...:)

My post was not meant to slight Vaughan in any way as he also has a vast knowledge of woods as well as being the creator and the resident ar'teest extraordinaire . It's just that it is hard to argue the knowledge of a person with 50+ years of experience tis all and was merely giving the man his due respect ...;)
 
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My knowledge is more with NZ timbers, more specifically working around their physical idiosyncrasies. Many of the timbers you folk send over I have never touched before, so I sometimes cut a couple of slices (one across and one with the grain) to twist and flex to check it for weaknesses, and adjust techniques accordingly. If I need specifics i'll go to Spydro too... So nice to have an aficionado in the mix, no substitute for experience I guess.
 

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Got all my kiwis up and running again after a fdv order came in, built my first peko too.
Its nice to have a full house again:)
Sadly my native burr stocks are gone, the best has all been used. I do struggle to fine any of suitable quality without the need to fill voids, which is not ideal. It hurts to think of some of the incredible burrs I have made bowls from, and most of it has wound up in shavings. I have been spoiled lately as many of your blocks are really top notch stock. Most woodworkers would love to have a crack at these woods!
 
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Gradually getting there. Enjoying the ride, watching each new mod pop up.

Guess I oughta touch base with Vaughan pretty soon, (since I've been hanging around for a while and haven't even said hi to him yet)

Hi Vaughan!

Still looking for one more block before I ship to him, just in case one doesn't pass muster.
Hi 2pak! I have seen you sneaking around here fairly regularly...lol
 

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Species listed in CITES Appendix II can have many pitfalls if you live in any of the 175 countries that are members of that treaty (esp the US). In the case of timber woods, it can concern both raw wood and items made from the woods. App. II basically means the sustainability of the wood is highly in question in its entire range, or sometimes in certain countries where its native habitat is. Honduran means little except that Dalbergia stevensonii does come mainly from Belize (Britsh Honduras), but also Guatemala and Mexico. Over harvesting in Belize stopped all harvesting there some years ago and is what got it elevated from App. III to App. II.

Shipping it in/out of countries legally can be a nightmare if you can't obtain any permits needed while studies are being done (that usually lean to it being fully protected under CITES Appendix I eventually).

The fly in the tea cup is customs, it doesn't matter which country. Custom agents worldwide seldom if ever know the current regs for every species, so each may play by their own rules. For example, I can't begin to count the times I got into down and dirty wars with US Customs agents the 5+ decades I raised and studied the life histories of Lepidoptera... via letters, phone calls and in person when I knew the exact current regs on Lepidoptera and they didn't. I don't back down to anyone, and it got really ugly sometimes when they threatened me or tried to take them away from me. I knew the current regs, had the required permits and the muscle to back it up, so I won every war.

Keep this in mind. Even if you get the wood out of your country, past NZ Customs so V can make the mod... will it get back out of NZ and back into your country? Maybe if you don't declare species and can do so legally or get away with it if not. Most customs agents also can't identify to species level. If it doesn't get past them in the least you'll loose the wood/mod, at worst they could try to prosecute you. Saving the planet and it's species is a very big deal worldwide now days, so CITES, The Lacey Act, etc are not something to mess around with unless you know the exact current regs.

Anyway, since many of you are US citizens... US Fish & Wildlife Law Enforcement was pretty easy to deal with decades ago, and it didn't cost a dime for their assistance or permits. But APHIS took the lead and is just the opposite. They even stopped almost all native species of Lepidoptera in the US from crossing state lines that never used to be illegal. So some required reading I would suggest is the current regs on timber woods that I am not completely up to speed on now days. Pay particular attention to taxonomic assigned names to species level, any listing of them that regulates them, requirements to export and export if legal, required permits, fees.

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_export/plants/manuals/ports/downloads/cites.pdf

Spy gone...
Thank you Spy,
And the seller response,

Dear adriaarcole-0,

Limitations on export of CITES regulated species apply only to Importers of Record.

As soon as we ship you from our IN address to a domestic U.S. address, such as your NY address, the limitations no longer apply. On your customs form (you would complete as part of mailing the block to your international consignee) you will be able to claim (legally and correctly) that origin of material is U.S. Whereas, If I ship to an international address, directly, I must rightfully claim ..... country of origin: Guatemala.
In simple terms, you have no limits on destination for the block (eBay item #221627272074) .... AFTER, buying it from an importer/re-seller such as C.A. Hardwoods.
Because your applicable country of origin is the U.S. you are in no way constrained as to consignee, after we deliver to you in NY.
Thanks for your interest in our products,
Jerry
 

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