FDA Deeming updates VTA issues FDA regulations calendar
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Yeah... This is where the Lawyers enter from Stage Left.
Because does the Seller Need to see the Buyer's ID to be able to Make a "Tobacco Product" sale? Or is it Enough for a Delivery Company or the USPS to see an ID after the sale has been Made?
If it is any Consolation, it probably Wouldn't have made much Difference. But it might have made the Short-Term Transition a bit Easier.
Exactly what I was thinking. The age may need to be verified at the P.O.S.
I would bet my money on it. Proving that you or someone at your residence is of legal age after the sale, will not count towards being in compliance at the time of sale.
So, is this completely passed into law? Is there no going back or are there more votes? This is crazytown.
We were and we did:
CASAA
URGENT: FDA Call to Action: Submit Comments on FDA's Proposed Intended Use Regulation
Important! CASAA Survey
CASAA files two comments in connection with FDA's packaging and labeling ANPRM
FDA Call to Action: Submit comments on FDA’s Third Workshop Regarding E-Cigarettes
Call to Action! Support HR 2058 which would change the grandfather date for vapor products
And on and on for the last two years. Donations sent CASAA representatives to meet with the FDA on our behalf to provide input. And not just CASAA but other organizations plus independent petitions representing us and the industry as well. Were you paying attention?
I would Kinda Surprise me if you Didn't have to have a Photo ID on file given the Heavy Handed approach that the FDA and some State are taking with e-Cigarettes.
No Votes involved. FDA Acts with impunity outside Standards of Representation.
Only Congress or Court of Law and strike down any actions the FDA decides to take.
Do we have any chance of stopping this? I'l be smoking Marlboro and Camel e-liquids if this happens and then I might as well smoke. Damn...
It was my Understanding that before a Major Rule, such as what the FDA is making, could be Finalized that it had to be Reviewed by BOTH Houses of Congress.
http://www.reginfo.gov/public/reginfo/Regmap/regmap.pdf
U.S.C. Title 5 - GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION AND EMPLOYEES
I have brought this Up in a Few Threads. But No One seems to be Able to confirm this.
Don't go back to smoking. Your health is too important to do that. There will be ways to keep vaping. Stick around. Keep reading here. We intend to find a way. One way or another.
China may be an option. Because you know that they need/want more of our money.
I can tell you this. Contrary to what ANY individual Doctor may say in private Dr/patient conversation - AAFP was instrumental in Soliciting Regulation.
Sadly, they Parrot CDC Statistical Data on Teen usage to Promote the need for E-cigarette Deeming.
Not a single comment on the reduction in TEEN Smoking due to CHOICE.
While I havenever had an issuewith age restrictions(maturity changes one) I have seen Little in the Success of such Age restrictions beyond satisfying those crying out for change.
I have always seen underage Drinking, Smoking and everything else restricted to Age of consent. Words without action have never proven preventative.
I will Freely admit, I got more Alcohol as an underage Teen than I have purchased or consumed as an adult. Never once did my parents have fore knowledge or give consent. Never once did Government stop me.
Societies Adults need to stop with all the FOR the Children regulation, to simply Feel they have accomplished something and put that energy toward Real Solvable Crisis world wide.
Rampant control of Government by Corporations is a Real World Crisis.
Yeah just make it illegal like they do all those other drugs on the street, you know what I'm talking about. It sure seems to help (not) in keeping the teens on the straight and narrow.
FDA Deeming went straight to OMB for Study and White House approval, Then into the Books.
The FDA has actually Refused congressional pressures to make changes in accordance with the FDA's own Guidelines.
http://www.raps.org/Regulatory-Focu...rm-on-Rejection-of-new-Sunscreen-Ingredients/
It would seem the FDA feels it is above the Law
...go back to smoking cigarettes ? Vape BT e-liquids ?
Hell NO.
BT will not ever get another dime of my money in any way, shape or form.
Hell NO.
BT will not ever get another dime of my money in any way, shape or form.
FDA Deeming went straight to OMB for Study and White House approval, Then into the Books.
The FDA has actually Refused congressional pressures to make changes in accordance with the FDA's own Guidelines.
http://www.raps.org/Regulatory-Focu...rm-on-Rejection-of-new-Sunscreen-Ingredients/
It would seem the FDA feels it is above the Law
I'm not an Expert on the Procedural Steps involved with Finalizing a Rule such as this. But I have ask a couple of People who are (somewhat) Familiar with the Process.
And 2 out of the 3 Told me that Many Times the FDA Ignores the Congressional Review Act. The other person Didn't Know.
BTW - Here is an Interesting Read...
It’s Time for Presidential Candidates to Weigh In on the Overregulation of Vapor Products
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FDA Deeming went straight to OMB for Study and White House approval, Then into the Books.
The FDA has actually Refused congressional pressures to make changes in accordance with the FDA's own Guidelines.
Under Pressure from Congress, FDA Holds Firm on Rejection of new Sunscreen Ingredients | RAPS
It would seem the FDA feels it is above the Law
Speaking of the FDA feeling it is above the law:
Here's the thread
Boehner asks FDA to move Grandfathering date to April 2014 or time of final rule
Here's the letter Boehner sent
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18613027/Boehner Letter 24Nov2014.pdf
Apparently just 'asking' and playing nice doesn't work with the FDA
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