VV or 5V?

[Baditude]

Smart decision to step lightly into an inexpensive V-V. Although going to straight to a Provari wouldn't have been a bad choice, either. Unless one decides to get into rba's, single/fixed voltage devices have limited appeal to me anymore. Single, fixed voltage limits not only your atomizer selection but also your flavors in juice. Not all flavors taste best at a certain voltage, and with variable voltage or V-W you have the ability to experiement with the voltage to find its sweet spot. For example, many people find lower voltages are best for delicate fruit flavors. For other flavors they find mid-range or higher voltages are better.

I started out with a BB and Silver Bullet as my first mods. Both of those are single voltage. But once I got a Provari, I very rarely even touch them any longer. Nearly every new mod that I have purchased since has had V-V, and even those take a back seat to the Provari. I decided to reward myself for my 1 year of being smoke free with my second Provari, this time a Mini. Between the two Provari's, they see over 90% of my vaping attention.

 

[Tams]

VV although I am quite new to this. Why would I want a fixed voltage? Thoughts?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Annnnnnd the order is placed I went with the kit that included two vivi novas with it for $52.08. Unbelievable price.

Just be aware that Kit is not Stainless Steel= fingerprint magnet and scratches easily/ does not wear well. Also if you have problems with the Vivi Novas it's cuz they're knockoffs.
Here's the SS Kit without the Vivi Novas:
$53.33 Vamo-Vivi Stainless Steel Voltage Adjustable E-Cigarette Battery Compartment Set - with Nitecore I2 US battery charger/charger cable/2*Panasonic CGR18650CH 18650 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Discount Code CPASTE13SPRING gives 5% off.

 

[vapo jam]

VV although I am quite new to this. Why would I want a fixed voltage? Thoughts?

not sure if this answers your question, but there are basically two types of mods: regulated and unregulated. VV/VW mods are all regulated, so they all have limits as far as the maximum power, maximum current, and minimum resistance they will fire at. the set limits are more than enough for most people, and make it a whole lot safer for plug-and-play use (they're there for your protection as well as the protection of the device).

mechanical mods, on the other hand, are unregulated. they always fire at whatever voltage the battery has left in it, regardless of what you put on top of it. a lot of people who build their own atomizers, for example, will wrap them in the 0.5-1.0 ohm range. if you tried to fire this on a provari or a vamo, you'll get an error (the device will think your atomizer has shorted out), but a mech mod will happily fire away.

just a disclaimer - do not try the above unless you know what you're doing (it can be very dangerous), but if you're interested, you can find out everything you need to know here in the forums and on youtube.

 

[2coils]

Good choice to take a small step up and learn a bit more about APV's. Provari's and GLV's will always be there. After playing around with your new device you will have a better idea what you want. To answer the original question Provari and GLV......I happen to own both. The GLV model I have is the GLV XL-MINI. This is not a 5 volt device. Alone it would only fire at the voltage of the battery as mentioned above. I happen to use mine with a what is called a Kick from Evolv. This turns the device into a variable wattage APV. It works wonderful. Once you set the desired wattage you like to vape at, it is pretty much fuss free. I would not limit yourself to 5 volts. As mentioned above, 5 volts limits what atty or carto you can use with it. I DO love my GLV. It is a very well made device. The folks at Great Lakes Vapor are top notch. There has been word of them coming out with a VV device in the future. As for the Provari, you can never go wrong! Awesome device, reliable, built to last.

 

[dynasty27]

I went from an Ego to an Evic and now have a Provari mini, I prefer the VV because I vape primarily fruity flavors and change them a lot, so a juice like fruit explosion isn't good at my normal 5V that I run at, but I love having lemon lime, raspberry lemonade, and others at the 5v setting.

 

[stormwench]

I am gonna go with voting for both. That good old tough standard that takes no fiddling, worrying about the coil resistance in the atomizer, that you know you can slap in your pocket after 5 quick clicks and not even worry about some dirt or sand blowing about. You know how long it lasts to almost the minute once you have it as a main in your stable, how long it take sto charge and so on.

This is you great to have workhorse that is there with you mowing the lawn or camping - doing the rough stuff that you know your less likely to mess up with a bit tougher handling. Its a good backup and always there and its great for those times you just need to vape without twiddling and pushing buttons. Try watching 3 kids and find the best voltage at the same time - life is not easy.

On the other hand there are sure times you want to be twiddling, getting the best experience for that newest e-juice that has been tantalizingly steeping on the shelf for two week, Like a good wine you just feel weird about serving it in a jelly jar. It might very well taste the same but its the experience as well as the taste.

The idea that "once your vv you never go back: has not been my experience. Many of my juices are just as happy with LR and a 3.7 voltage and taste no different using a VV and different voltages with different resistances, while others - well lets just say they would still be sitting there.

But like any electronic the more involved it is, the more components the more to go wrong, the more to break. My VV does not going camping with me but my standard and a backup are in the gear and I am not sweating a drop in the dirt are a bit of a knock about. And, of course, if it gets bangged up I am not crying over a VV I am not replacing until I budget again for it but for one I can live without or replace for a bit of a lesser expense.

 

[Mdisco57]

I agree with the Vamo. Mine has given me a vaping experience that I did not think was possible. You can search yourself blue in the face and will NOT fin a higher quality kit than this $51.42 Vamo-Vivi Voltage Adjustable E-Cigarette Battery Compartment Set - with Nitecore I2 US battery charger/charger cable/2*Panasonic 18650 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

What kind of atomizer is good to purchase with this set?

 

[vapo jam]

What kind of atomizer is good to purchase with this set?

if you want to bundle from fasttech, perhaps something like this:

$6.12 Vivi Nova V5 Electronic Cigarette Round Mouth Atomizer w/ Two Heating Cores (3.5mL) - 1.8

if you don't mind looking elsewhere, i've had really good results with a kanger protank/vamo setup. i've heard the EVOD performs very similarly (it uses the same coils), BUT i've heard that they may not all fit on all Vamo's (but for $4 it may be worth a shot):

$3.66 EVOD Electronic Cigarettes Round Mouth Atomizer (1.5mL) - blue / 2.6

 

[detroitvapr]

Just be aware that Kit is not Stainless Steel= fingerprint magnet and scratches easily/ does not wear well. Also if you have problems with the Vivi Novas it's cuz they're knockoffs.
Here's the SS Kit without the Vivi Novas:
$53.33 Vamo-Vivi Stainless Steel Voltage Adjustable E-Cigarette Battery Compartment Set - with Nitecore I2 US battery charger/charger cable/2*Panasonic CGR18650CH 18650 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Discount Code CPASTE13SPRING gives 5% off.

I'm okay with the fingerprint magnet. I was thinking I was going to go with a jwrap on it anyway no matter what finish I decided on.

 

[detroitvapr]

I am gonna go with voting for both. That good old tough standard that takes no fiddling, worrying about the coil resistance in the atomizer, that you know you can slap in your pocket after 5 quick clicks and not even worry about some dirt or sand blowing about. You know how long it lasts to almost the minute once you have it as a main in your stable, how long it take sto charge and so on.

This is you great to have workhorse that is there with you mowing the lawn or camping - doing the rough stuff that you know your less likely to mess up with a bit tougher handling. Its a good backup and always there and its great for those times you just need to vape without twiddling and pushing buttons. Try watching 3 kids and find the best voltage at the same time - life is not easy.

On the other hand there are sure times you want to be twiddling, getting the best experience for that newest e-juice that has been tantalizingly steeping on the shelf for two week, Like a good wine you just feel weird about serving it in a jelly jar. It might very well taste the same but its the experience as well as the taste.

The idea that "once your vv you never go back: has not been my experience. Many of my juices are just as happy with LR and a 3.7 voltage and taste no different using a VV and different voltages with different resistances, while others - well lets just say they would still be sitting there.

But like any electronic the more involved it is, the more components the more to go wrong, the more to break. My VV does not going camping with me but my standard and a backup are in the gear and I am not sweating a drop in the dirt are a bit of a knock about. And, of course, if it gets bangged up I am not crying over a VV I am not replacing until I budget again for it but for one I can live without or replace for a bit of a lesser expense.

That is a great point! For now I will use my Halo Triton's as the knock-about solution. So far they have been holding up good, but admittedly I haven't dropped them or gone camping or anything with them. I'll probably pick up a GLV super-mini eventually as my rough treatment go anywhere mod. That one seems small enough to put in just about any pocket and not worry about it at all.

 

[beazy]

I used a twist with a protank for a long while and it was great for starting out and getting off regular smokes. I got a bolt mod and was stuck at 3.7 for a while and wasn't too crazy about it. then I started to buy low resistance cartomizers and that worked okay for a little while but then a guy at a brick-and-mortar turned me on to stacking up to 7.4 with a 5ohm carto. Its amazing and I haven't looked back.

This is known to be dangerous so I am a little outside my mind when caring for my batteries.. Using only aw imr 18350, checking them with a multimeter several times a day so I feel safe with stacking as long as I stick to what all the battery guides on here say about safety.

My bolt mod button has been misfiring some so it might be time to overhaul it or get a new mod.. In thinking an itaste SVD...

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I'm okay with the fingerprint magnet. I was thinking I was going to go with a jwrap on it anyway no matter what finish I decided on.

Actually there are pros to ordering a non SS Vamo- the SS Vamo has poor electrical conductivity than the other Vamos- the tube is part of the electrical circuit. Some issues with the SS Vamo can be directly attributed to the poor conductivity of the SS.
Either way I am a FastTech fanboy...you'll really enjoy the Vamo.

 

[Faylool]

If your asking about a choice between Provari and GLV 5 volt I'd recommend Provari. I have both and use them both of course but the facts are the facts....VV on Provari equals GLV 5 volt when set at 5 volts. Both are hard hitting and efficient but options are NICE. Reading your atty's volts is helpful too. Just because it said 2.4 doesn't mean it measures that, especially after using awhile plus most don't have it indicated and I forget which is which soon

 

[Mdisco57]

I have done a lot of thinking about this--I am new to vaping, I want an affordable mod that is SAFE for someone like me who doesnt know squat!!! I really WANT a VAMO, but at present I am cruising along nicely with my Volt Spinner. Seems to me the bigger Mods get more complicated, and I am a big fan of "keep it simple"! When I do overcome my fears, or outgrow my spinner, I will reconsider the VAMO because u guys seem to like it a lot! BTW- the telescoping Z-max looks pretty interesting too----hummm

 

[sonicdsl]

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