VW vs VV

[Elizabeth Comstock]

Hi Everyone,
New to vaping (off cigs for 1 month!). Head is spinning with trying to take all info in. I first purchased Evod Blister pack then an Evod 1000 man batt and Genitank Mini. It goes on and on- decided to try VV battery and was talked out of it by salesgirl online- she said VW would be safer because I need to learn Ohm's law and it's complicated. True?
She set me up with innokin Coolfire and iSub tank. Too much? Safe for newby? Dislike refilling and recharging and I think that's part of reason she recommended it- that and she said was safer for me than VV.
Many thanks.
Elizabeth

 

[Cullin Kin]

Hi Everyone,
New to vaping (off cigs for 1 month!). Head is spinning with trying to take all info in. I first purchased Evod Blister pack then an Evod 1000 man batt and Genitank Mini. It goes on and on- decided to try VV battery and was talked out of it by salesgirl online- she said VW would be safer because I need to learn Ohm's law and it's complicated. True?
She set me up with Innokin Coolfire and iSub Tank. Too much? Safe for newby? Dislike refilling and recharging and I think that's part of reason she recommended it- that and she said was safer for me than VV.
Many thanks.
Elizabeth

Yes, it's a safe setup for a new vaper. However, VW is based off of VV so essentially, they are the same thing. You can fine tune a little more with VW though.

Ohm's law: V=IR where V =voltage, I = current, and R = resistance. With VV and VW we are more concerned with P=V^2/R where P = Power (Watts), V = Voltage, and R = Resistance.

Honestly, I think this person was just trying to sell you a new setup...

 

[dom qp]

VV vs VW is nearly antiquated. With the exception of beginner kits and cheaper ego styled batteries, almost everything is VV & VW.

Like @Cullin Kin explained, on a VV changing your voltage will also change your wattage. It just adjusts it for you automatically.

Wattage comes into play when you're looking at using lower resistance coils, as you will need to increase your wattage to a level higher than your current VV only device will allow. So in a practical sense, VW is used because it gives us direct control over how much power we want to be delivered to our coil. This is also why we rate how powerful a mod is by its potential wattage output.

e.g. 26.4 to 27.5 Watts = 3.9 Volts on a 0.5 Ohm coil. If we adjusted by voltage that's a really big range and therefore inaccurate (and inconsistent).

i.e. 4.2 Volts on a 1.8 Ohm coil requires 9.8 Watts. While 4.2 Volts on a 0.5 Ohm coil requires 35.28 Watts. Your VV device will, at best, deliver 10 Watts - I doubt it though.
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To answer your question simply: VV and VW are the same thing. It's like measuring water in millilitres or in milligrams: one isn't more safer than the other. VW capability just indicates that the device is usually more powerful. In terms of safety, all VV and VW mods are regulated. If it's unsafe to use your coil (for whatever reason), it won't fire.

 

[Elizabeth Comstock]

I'm sorry if this an old and repetitive topic- I have researched this and can't figure it out! The Vape Shop in my town is scary- don't know who knows what is solid info and what is BS. Same feeling with online merchants! This seems to be a very "shady" business. Please help.

 

[Elizabeth Comstock]

Yes, it's a safe setup for a new vaper. However, VW is based off of VV so essentially, they are the same thing. You can fine tune a little more with VW though.

Ohm's law: V=IR where V =voltage, I = current, and R = resistance. With VV and VW we are more concerned with P=V^2/R where P = Power (Watts), V = Voltage, and R = Resistance.

Honestly, I think this person was just trying to sell you a new setup...

Uhh- sorry but what language are you speaking? I was never good in math. I need Vaping for Dummies!

 

[Cullin Kin]

Uhh- sorry but what language are you speaking? I was never good in math. I need Vaping for Dummies!

Hold on.

Here you go: (18) Baditude's Blogs | E-Cigarette Forum

Here's Ohm's Law in layman... (14) Ohm's Law for Dummies (Vapers) | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[Elizabeth Comstock]

Hold on.

Here you go: (18) Baditude's Blogs | E-Cigarette Forum

Here's Ohm's Law in layman... (14) Ohm's Law for Dummies (Vapers) | E-Cigarette Forum

Thank You, Cullin!

 

[Cullin Kin]

Thank You, Cullin!

My pleasure!

 

[juggler86]

Not all mods work the way they should. Technically the VTR should be able to put out 60w when running a .6 coil at 6volts. So in the case of the VTR VV is worthless i know a couple other mods that have this issue that I cant think of.

Also most VW mods have volt limits which limit how high you can build and how high of watts you can use. Most will let you goto max watts but youre actually not getting all that power cuz the chip only allows so many volts.

 

[dom qp]

@Elizabeth Comstock

I added the below to my original response. I am not sure if you saw it but it's an important point:

To answer your question simply: VV and VW are the same thing. It's like measuring water in millilitres or in milligrams: one isn't more safer than the other. VW capability just indicates that the device is usually more powerful. In terms of safety, all VV and VW mods are regulated. If it's unsafe to use your coil (for whatever reason), it won't fire.​

 

[Elizabeth Comstock]

Thank You, Cullin!

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Not all mods work the way they should. Technically the VTR should be able to put out 60w when running a .6 coil at 6volts. So in the case of the VTR VV is worthless i know a couple other mods that have this issue that I cant think of.

Also most VW mods have volt limits which limit how high you can build and how high of watts you can use. Most will let you goto max watts but youre actually not getting all that power cuz the chip only allows so many volts.

I thank you for the info however I have not a clue as to what you are saying- sorry, I just don't get this. I need to learn but for now I just need to find a system that works that I am not spending, spending , spending money on. Want to stay off cigs!

 

[juggler86]

Ya its kind of confusing, I still get confused.

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[dom qp]

Ya its kind of confusing, I still get confused.

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We're all here to help. If you're confused, feel free to post.

 

[edyle]

Hi Everyone,
New to vaping (off cigs for 1 month!). Head is spinning with trying to take all info in. I first purchased Evod Blister pack then an Evod 1000 man batt and Genitank Mini. It goes on and on- decided to try VV battery and was talked out of it by salesgirl online- she said VW would be safer because I need to learn Ohm's law and it's complicated. True?
She set me up with Innokin Coolfire and iSub Tank. Too much? Safe for newby? Dislike refilling and recharging and I think that's part of reason she recommended it- that and she said was safer for me than VV.
Many thanks.
Elizabeth

usually with a vw mod you can switch to vv mode; to me it's no point buying a mod that has vw, but doesn't have the option to use vv mode

 

[Elizabeth Comstock]

@Elizabeth Comstock

I added the below to my original response. I am not sure if you saw it but it's an important point:

To answer your question simply: VV and VW are the same thing. It's like measuring water in millilitres or in milligrams: one isn't more safer than the other. VW capability just indicates that the device is usually more powerful. In terms of safety, all VV and VW mods are regulated. If it's unsafe to use your coil (for whatever reason), it won't fire.​

Soooo- if my main complaints are the constant refilling and recharging, should I just go for something like the Evod 1900 mah and a bigger tank (if it will take one)- I would like everything that I have purchased to date to work together- at least until I learn more.

 

[Wolfenstark]

A decent mod is better than an ego battery for most people.
The coolfires do read good but I haven't really read that many posts about them from people that have them.

 

[Wolfenstark]

Soooo- if my main complaints are the constant refilling and recharging, should I just go for something like the Evod 1900 mah and a bigger tank (if it will take one)- I would like everything that I have purchased to date to work together- at least until I learn more.

Depends on your device and amount of vaping you do as to how frequently you will be refilling and recharging.
Refilling and recharging are less annoying than a set-up that you don't like.

 

[edyle]

if you find yourself constantly refilling and recharging you need a bigger battery system and bigger tank.

I just checked: I have over 10 18650 batteries.
18650 batteries are 18mm diameter by 65mm long.
They are the standard on many battery tubes/boxes for vape gear, including vamo, sigelei, ipv, innokin stuff, provari.

If your starter evod type setup is inadequate, the more updated starter kit is like an istick30 and a nautilus or atlantis or subtank.

 

[dom qp]

Soooo- if my main complaints are the constant refilling and recharging, should I just go for something like the Evod 1900 mah and a bigger tank (if it will take one)- I would like everything that I have purchased to date to work together- at least until I learn more.

Two things you need to address:

Bigger Battery

• Higher MAH = more stored energy. (Get a device with a higher MAH rating.)
• Caution: The more watts you need to fire your coil, the faster the battery will drain.

Bigger Tank

• You need to get a tank with a higher capacity (measured in ml).
• Caution: The more watts you need to fire your coil, the faster you will use up your juice.

My recommendation

• MVP3 : huge battery, you can even use it to recharge other electronics. Fires up to 30W meaning you can use virtually any tank. It's extremely safe and durable. Mine was sitting in water for a month, had the charger rust inside of it, and it still worked.
• Nautilus : The go to non-sub ohm tank. On an MVP3 it will be satisfying to use. Flavourful and great sized clouds.

This video was made for you:

 

[Elizabeth Comstock]

A decent mod is better than an ego battery for most people.
The coolfires do read good but I haven't really read that many posts about them from people that have them.

Thank you Wolfenstark! Love wolves.

Depends on your device and amount of vaping you do as to how frequently you will be refilling and recharging.
Refilling and recharging are less annoying than a set-up that you don't like.

Depends on your device and amount of vaping you do as to how frequently you will be refilling and recharging.
Refilling and recharging are less annoying than a set-up that you don't like.

It's funny- I feel as if I am in an opium den with my vape. I'm trying to use it like a cig but I find I am vaping more than I would smoke- and I have read that it is normal as the nicotine does not enter the body as it would with cigs