Want to get a genesis mod, but...

[Jaymus]

I'd like to get my hands on a Kraken genesis rba, but all I've ever seen used have been mesh wicks. I'm not really sure about them, all I know is that I would have to buy yet more vaping supplies if all a genesis can take is a mesh wick. I've been all over the internet looking for answers, but the most I've found is mesh/cotton combos. No silica (which I have a lot of) coil builds were to be found. Can someone with experience please tell me a little more about this?

Also, when it comes to working with mesh, how hard is it? I'd assume that you just get a sheet of mesh material or something and have to cut a piece out of it before fashioning the wick.

 

[Vaslovik]

Hi Jaymus,

I started off with genesis RBA's about 5 weeks into vaping, that was a year ago, and I've been using mesh all along, with very good results. Many will advocate cotton or silica, it's a matter of preference and your call, but I think you should at least give the mesh a try. I've never had a problem with it and it has served me very well.

I would like to recommend this video for building and wick making instruction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnuYJeoS6Fc

For me working with mesh wasn't hard at all, I just followed what Phil Busardo did and I was fine. It doesn't take a lot of money to get making mesh wicks. I've ordered mesh from these guys in the past:

Mesh Wizard

What ohms are you thinking of coiling for? I started out coiling for .8 ohm with 28 kanthal, 4/3 wrap, but later on went to .7 ohm with 26 kanthal 5/4 wrap, and I'm liking that a lot.

I start my wicks with a 3 inch strip of mesh, torched well on both sides, and a thin fold-over at the end you will be rolling toward. I roll mine tight, although some like to leave them tubular, for reasons I'm not sure of.

 

[Baditude]

I began my rebuildable experience with a Genesis-style RBA, too. IMHO, it is the most difficult RBA type to start out with. SS mesh is the most difficult wick material to work with. Just my With a Genesis style tank you are always fighting gravity due to the tank being below the building deck. Most leak if not kept upright and you have to tilt the tank horizontal while vaping.

A Kayfun-style tank is a much better tank design, and easier to build & use. Not fighting gravity because the tank is above the deck. Works via vacuum/negative pressure like a cartotank does. Not position dependent. Doesn't leak. Uses cotton or silica, easier to work with than SS mesh.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/554710-what-makes-kayfun-so-great.html

Information Resources for Your First RBA

Genesis-style RBA

Kayfun-style RBA

 

[Ryedan]

I'd like to get my hands on a Kraken genesis rba, but all I've ever seen used have been mesh wicks. I'm not really sure about them, all I know is that I would have to buy yet more vaping supplies if all a genesis can take is a mesh wick. I've been all over the internet looking for answers, but the most I've found is mesh/cotton combos. No silica (which I have a lot of) coil builds were to be found. Can someone with experience please tell me a little more about this?

Also, when it comes to working with mesh, how hard is it? I'd assume that you just get a sheet of mesh material or something and have to cut a piece out of it before fashioning the wick.

Genisis attys can be built and vape great with cotton. I saw a Rip Trippers video on it and was impressed. I've only ever used SS mesh in my AGA-T. I've just got a Kraken but I have not built it yet so I can't comment on that one. I would suggest you do not try building a dual coil Genny until you have single coil setups down extremely pat. You can build the Kraken either way.

IMO SS mesh is the most difficult wick you can work with due to having to deal with eliminating shorts. The RSST makes it easier because it has a insulted wick hole, but I haven't tried it so that's just what I've read. It does make sense to me though.

I'm vaping an AGA-T right now with SS. It's got really clean flavor, makes great vapor and the wicks last a long time. You do need to know that it has a steep learning curve. IMO anyone can learn how to do this, but it will likely take time to master a dependable setup.

The video Vaslovik linked to is a good one. Have a look and see what you think.

Baditude's thoughts on the Kayfun are right on too. IMO it's easier to build and easier to make dependable than Gennys are, but it's a completely different animal. It delivers great flavor, but if you try going under about 0.8 ohms you'll have problems but it does very well at around 1.5 ohms. IMO the AGA-T does not start to shine until you get down to about 0.8 ohms and you can go lower than that if you want to. I typically aim for 0.6 - 0.7

Good luck with whatever you try out

 

[gtalpaz]

Also, if you're looking for dual wicks, which is one of the inherent advantages of a kraken over a traditional genie tank, I'd take a strong look at the taifun GT/Fogger V4(+/++). I have a bunch of kayfuns and love them all (the V2+ is quite nice) but am digging the Fogger V4+ a ton. If you like an "airier" draw, it's a great device. Harder to build but use some 28g and cotton and you're in a solid place. it's a dual coil system with many of kayfun advantages, including great flavor and no-leaking. Also, air flow, air flow, air flow. Did I mention air flow?

 

[Ryedan]

Also, if you're looking for dual wicks, which is one of the inherent advantages of a kraken over a traditional genie tank, I'd take a strong look at the taifun GT/Fogger V4(+/++). I have a bunch of kayfuns and love them all (the V2+ is quite nice) but am digging the Fogger V4+ a ton. If you like an "airier" draw, it's a great device. Harder to build but use some 28g and cotton and you're in a solid place. it's a dual coil system with many of kayfun advantages, including great flavor and no-leaking. Also, air flow, air flow, air flow. Did I mention air flow?

I have my second setup on a Aqua RBA, a dual coil Kayfun type. I'm really impressed so far. Also better air flow than the Kayfuns and dual coils make this a Kayfun type atty that so far really works for me

 

[gtalpaz]

I have my second setup on a Aqua RBA, a dual coil Kayfun type. I'm really impressed so far. Also better air flow than the Kayfuns and dual coils make this a Kayfun type atty that so far really works for me

The aqua is sick! Been looking for an authentic one for a while now. The Fogger works quite well, and you can't argue with the price

 

[catmomma]

I wick my Kraken with cotton and I have a friend who swears by xc-116 (readyxwick). You are certainly not tied to mesh. There are videos on you-tube with clear examples of how to wick with cotton. The Kraken is a great tank, hope you can find a way to make it work for you.