Thanks I will definitely give this a try tomorrow.
Want to vape but can't!!!!!!
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This does sound odd. Couple of years back I had issues with too much nicotine when vaping. Never really got to the bottom of it, by my sums I was getting similar or less nicotine than I did smoking, that was assuming 70% absorption I.e. 1ml of 10 mg juice is up to 0.7 mg of nicotine.
Only things I could come up with was getting too much juice in my mouth (older flooding atties) and/or one particular brand of juice and the nicotine they use being in some weird way too strong for me.
Maybe try a different brand of juice, assuming you have not already....?
3mg ought to be fine, a couple of draws should be minimal nicotine intake even if subohming.
It could be an interaction with your meds, possibly smoking is ok due to other chemicals, whereas these chemicals are absent from vaping. Maybe speak to your doctor?
Only things I could come up with was getting too much juice in my mouth (older flooding atties) and/or one particular brand of juice and the nicotine they use being in some weird way too strong for me.
Maybe try a different brand of juice, assuming you have not already....?
3mg ought to be fine, a couple of draws should be minimal nicotine intake even if subohming.
It could be an interaction with your meds, possibly smoking is ok due to other chemicals, whereas these chemicals are absent from vaping. Maybe speak to your doctor?
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Because of your medical problems your not processing nic through your system as fast as normal so when you vape your adding to your nic content
either go to zero nic in your vape or stop ciggs altogether
dont worry about how long you vape trying to make it last as long as a ciggy
For me i may just hit the vape 2 or 3 puffs and lay it down then in a bit do 2 or 3 more depending on what I want
Vaping is not smoking a ciggy
Its more like pipe smoking
either go to zero nic in your vape or stop ciggs altogether
dont worry about how long you vape trying to make it last as long as a ciggy
For me i may just hit the vape 2 or 3 puffs and lay it down then in a bit do 2 or 3 more depending on what I want
Vaping is not smoking a ciggy
Its more like pipe smoking
Thanks so much for your help I did not realize nicotine stays with me longer due to my meds. Sounds like one of the answers I've been looking for in a sense. I myself always assumed that it was not pg or vg because I have tried all different ratios. I will wait a couple hours after I have a smoke then hit the vape a few times. Hopefully I will kick the smokes. Is it possible it is my dry mouth or sinus problems adding to it?
Your welcome
It does really sound like your heart meds are slowing down the blood flow and the other meds are also lowering your heart rate
That alone will allow the nic to stay in your system longer
So like I said do 2 or 3 puffs of vape lay it d0own come back in a bit and do 2 or 3 more puffs
It does really sound like your heart meds are slowing down the blood flow and the other meds are also lowering your heart rate
That alone will allow the nic to stay in your system longer
So like I said do 2 or 3 puffs of vape lay it d0own come back in a bit and do 2 or 3 more puffs
Could be the flavor, try different or unflavored. I have one flavor I like but feels a little weird in my head.
Could be dehydration, try drink a lot of water first and see if that helps. If you're already dehydrated before even vaping...
The ammonia, etc. in cigs is actually to help you tolerate the high nic levels. Try vaping until you feel a little queasy and then a drag off a cig and see if that improves it. 3 mg nic should be almost nothing, if you smoke, though -- if that's accurate. Note, 3 mg = ~0.3%.
As PG and VG are "double alcohols" and I'm very sensitive to alc, I've wondered if they alone have some subtle effect. They do temporarily reduce oxygen absorption by the lungs when vaped (even breathing extreme humidity can do that).
Could be dehydration, try drink a lot of water first and see if that helps. If you're already dehydrated before even vaping...
The ammonia, etc. in cigs is actually to help you tolerate the high nic levels. Try vaping until you feel a little queasy and then a drag off a cig and see if that improves it. 3 mg nic should be almost nothing, if you smoke, though -- if that's accurate. Note, 3 mg = ~0.3%.
As PG and VG are "double alcohols" and I'm very sensitive to alc, I've wondered if they alone have some subtle effect. They do temporarily reduce oxygen absorption by the lungs when vaped (even breathing extreme humidity can do that).
You are describing how I feel when I vape HIGH VG juice. Anything more than 40% VG, makes me sick. To 60%-80% PG mix.
I have been vaping for awhile but still learning about different tanks, mods and e-juice, etc. I have read all the comments and the one topic I haven't read mentioned is the type of tank you are using. I know with mine I have to adjust airflow and battery settings for different e-juices. I have a variety of tanks (including sub ohm) and if the airflow is wide open on any of them I end up coughing and sick to my stomach. I am one of the oddballs and cannot vape high VG on a regular basis so many of my e-juices are 50/50 blend (it causes tightness in my chest). If you can, use a tank with an adjustable air flow and see if that helps. I discovered a long time ago if I have a strong minty flavor in one tank my cravings are fewer. I smoked pack and a half of Kools for 42 years so the minty flavors are my go to when I crave a cigarette. It hasn't been easy and I did start smoking after 10 months cigarette free but thankfully I have been able to cut back again and now only smoking 1 every few days. Don't give up! One thing I have learned over the 1 1/2 years of vaping is trial and error is common. What works for one may not help you. As for your heart meds talk to your cardiologist if you can. I know mine is behind me 100% on vaping as well as my primary doctor. I am on a few heart meds myself but haven't noticed any problems with them and my vaping. Now smoking a cigarette is another story.
I personally can chain vape 12mg very heavily before I get the symptoms of too much nicotine. Your description almost sounds like a sensitivity to something else in the juice, but I grant that pretty much every smoker knows what too much nicotine feels like. Some admittedly shaky napkin math indicates that you get ~1mg of nicotine in the smoke from one cigarette. If you're vaping 3mg/ml then that would be equivalent to 1/3 of a ml assuming complete absorption which is never going to happen. Regardless you shouldn't be vaping 1/3 of a ml in one hit on a 1.8 ohm coil. If that were the case you'd be emptying your tank in 10 - 15 hits.
That long winded thought experiment leaves a couple of possibilities.
1. You are absorbing the nic in a much different way vaping than you do smoking
2. You are sensitive to something else in the juice
3. Residual nicotine from smoking is still in your system causing you to hit your limit as soon as you start vaping.
4. Something else I haven't thought of...
edit: Oh I forgot to mention I had this kind of an issue when I first started vaping. Just a couple hits and my head was spinning. The problem was that I was vaping 24mg and I was still smoking at that time.
That long winded thought experiment leaves a couple of possibilities.
1. You are absorbing the nic in a much different way vaping than you do smoking
2. You are sensitive to something else in the juice
3. Residual nicotine from smoking is still in your system causing you to hit your limit as soon as you start vaping.
4. Something else I haven't thought of...
edit: Oh I forgot to mention I had this kind of an issue when I first started vaping. Just a couple hits and my head was spinning. The problem was that I was vaping 24mg and I was still smoking at that time.
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I got a heavy chest, racey feeling, and dry mouth when I vaped anything other than max vg liquids.
My wife quit smoking cigarettes cold turkey years ago because her Dr put her on welbutrin for depression and she just couldn't handle anything to do with smoking anymore. Not the nic and especially the smell.
yes...
Try dif combos of juice : first try lower Nic -zero or something in between-and then try dif juices with dif PG/VG combos .Also try different brands and flavors (vastly different if possible like a fruit and a dessert etc etc) to see if it's something in the flavoring that's bothering you .
Some people are vaguely allergic to certain flavors, kinds of nic, or kinds of PG/VG base used by certain brands so all you can do is try to figure out who the culprit is...like Puffon suggested ..."process of elimination"
Good Luck !
This was my thought exactly -- it's hard to know exactly what's going on, when it's described only as "feeling weird". "Weird" conveys exactly zero information.
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Then it is NOT the nicotine in the vape that is causing you problems. (even though I thought that at first).
You are sensitive to something in the vape, either VG, PG or certain flavorings.
completely useless experiment for you. Ratio implies that you are still using *both* pg and vg. No matter what the ratio, if ONE of those is teh culprit, you won't know til you test each one.
Only way around this is to vape pure PG a few times and see it same thing happens.
Or vape pure VG a few times and see if same thing happens
See what each one *does* to you. If nothing, then add flavoring.
Process of elimination.
most of the time I have to drink something while I am Vaping. I would take 2 hits off my vape and feel off. So, I would take a long swig of water or soda and then go back to Vaping. I also have dry mouth from medication. Chewing gum while Vaping also helps.
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How are you getting on?
Ive been bad with it recently. been on roll ups for two days now. still feel ill.
Im putting it down to anxiety.
but here is my post - fast heartbeat, tight chest feelings, breathlessness, slight numbness on left face, nausea etc.
I know someone who has been considering giving up the analogs for vaping, but has a sensitivity to caramel coloring that is often used in e juice. She said her body doesn't metabolize caramel coloring properly. I asked an e juice vendor how to tell if e juice has caramel coloring in it. She advised me that if a juice is clear when it arrives in the mail, you can be sure it doesn't have caramel coloring in it. I wonder if that could be your issue? I'm just throwing that out there as a possibility, because yours is an unusual situation. She also advised me that even juices that are clear when brand new tend to turn a caramel color as they are exposed to oxygen from vaping and shaking the bottles, but that's because the color change is caused by the juice oxidizing and not an indicator of the presence of caramel coloring.
Hope you get this figured out soon and can start enjoying your vape.
Well, I hope you wrote down all of the tests you can do. I find vaping issues to be a process of elimination. I haven't had a medical issue so I can't say.
For me, I just switched overnight and then vaped only when my body told me. I knew about the water need and so I carried my APV and a bottle of water everywhere.
Just reading over the last 2+ years, some people have sensitivities so the process of elimination comes into play. Some try all VG, nic, and flavoring, some try all PG, nic, and the same flavoring. Then others try it without flavoring and some try it without nic. It's kind of like a science experiment. Then doing it all again with a different flavor. Needs a helpful juice maker to make the test samples. Just out of experience, I know that expensive juices don't necessarily mean quality juices.
As I have lowered my nic content, I have found the need to mix same flavor juices that have different nic levels. When I went from 12mg to 6mg, I was living with my APV in my mouth. It was, after all, a 50% drop. So, I went back and got some 12mg juice to match my 6mg juice and I mixed them together. It really helped. Maybe some 0mg juice to match your 3mg juice.
Just more tests towards figuring it out. A lot of good things have been said already. Actually, to run all the possibilities mentioned, it will take a couple of three weeks.
Anyway, I just switched entirely and listened to my urge and then it was only minimal (3-4) draws. The enjoyment of "chain" vaping came later. Good luck because I have seen a lot of people have serious issues from smoking. I don't want that for you.
For me, I just switched overnight and then vaped only when my body told me. I knew about the water need and so I carried my APV and a bottle of water everywhere.
Just reading over the last 2+ years, some people have sensitivities so the process of elimination comes into play. Some try all VG, nic, and flavoring, some try all PG, nic, and the same flavoring. Then others try it without flavoring and some try it without nic. It's kind of like a science experiment. Then doing it all again with a different flavor. Needs a helpful juice maker to make the test samples. Just out of experience, I know that expensive juices don't necessarily mean quality juices.
As I have lowered my nic content, I have found the need to mix same flavor juices that have different nic levels. When I went from 12mg to 6mg, I was living with my APV in my mouth. It was, after all, a 50% drop. So, I went back and got some 12mg juice to match my 6mg juice and I mixed them together. It really helped. Maybe some 0mg juice to match your 3mg juice.
Just more tests towards figuring it out. A lot of good things have been said already. Actually, to run all the possibilities mentioned, it will take a couple of three weeks.
Anyway, I just switched entirely and listened to my urge and then it was only minimal (3-4) draws. The enjoyment of "chain" vaping came later. Good luck because I have seen a lot of people have serious issues from smoking. I don't want that for you.
Right then , after going back to the smokes for a few weeks, getting back to normality, two weeks ago I started smoking and vaping at the same time. Cheap pen vape stick from the local supermarket and the lovely juice i had before from the local vape shop. 
I gradually started phasing in the vape and phasing out the smokes. Today I just vaped and doing well.
Conclusion of my issues/symptoms
When starting vaping some months ago I vaped a week on 14mg on a 1.5 ohms tank. I was fine.
Vaped 14 mg on 0.5mg had a little bit of a nicotine overdose, freaked me out had a panic attack, i.e.
fast heartbeat, tight chest feelings, breathlessness, slight numbness on left face, nausea etc.
I continued to have panic attacks and anxiety for some weeks even after stopping vaping and just smoking, couldn'tstay up for more than a few hours before having to go to bed. Doctor said I was literary running out of adrenaline.
I have combated the anxiety which is getting easier.
I am now vaping through it, cheap pen stick on 12mg 50/50.
Not allergic to any of the pg, vg or flavoring, I panicked and needed to lower my nicotine depending on the equipment.
, after going back to the smokes for a few weeks, getting back to normality, two weeks ago I started smoking and vaping at the same time. Cheap pen vape stick from the local supermarket and the lovely juice i had before from the local vape shop. I gradually started phasing in the vape and phasing out the smokes. Today I just vaped and doing well.
Conclusion of my issues/symptoms
When starting vaping some months ago I vaped a week on 14mg on a 1.5 ohms tank. I was fine.
Vaped 14 mg on 0.5mg had a little bit of a nicotine overdose, freaked me out had a panic attack, i.e.
fast heartbeat, tight chest feelings, breathlessness, slight numbness on left face, nausea etc.
I continued to have panic attacks and anxiety for some weeks even after stopping vaping and just smoking, couldn'tstay up for more than a few hours before having to go to bed. Doctor said I was literary running out of adrenaline.
I have combated the anxiety which is getting easier.
I am now vaping through it, cheap pen stick on 12mg 50/50.
Not allergic to any of the pg, vg or flavoring, I panicked and needed to lower my nicotine depending on the equipment.
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