Warning about McMaster ceramic rope.

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I had bought a short length of the ceramic rope from the above link to use on my odysseus after seeing a link for it on some other threads. I just received it today and from touching it I can tell you it's a bad idea. The stuff splinters into little fragments (definitely not good to be breathing into your lungs). Also, it burns because the stuff is not 100% fire resistant. To test a piece, I put a flame near it and about half the material was left over unharmed by the flame and what was left was a bunch of the little splinters I mentioned (similar to what you see from fiberglass insulation).

Just thought I'd post this as a caution because I've seen this stuff linked to in a few other threads and some videos.
 
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I had bought a short length of the ceramic rope from the above link to use on my odysseus after seeing a link for it on some other threads. I just received it today and from touching it I can tell you it's a bad idea. The stuff splinters into little fragments (definitely not good to be breathing into your lungs). Also, it burns because the stuff is not 100% fire resistant. To test a piece, I put a flame near it and about half the material was left over unharmed by the flame and what was left was a bunch of the little splinters I mentioned (similar to what you see from fiberglass insulation).

Just thought I'd post this as a caution because I've seen this stuff linked to in a few other threads and some videos.

Yeah, I've been reading threads about it and they gave me the willies. Somebody took microscopic pictures of the fragments embedded in lung tissue (If I recall).

What is the stuff COV sells?
 

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pyrotecha, I think your post here should be placed as a permanent sticky to warn people. Guys this is a serious issue that many fellow vapers don't consider. We spend a ton of money buying the best mods (GG's of course) and then get stingy and go out searching for the best deal in cheap bulk wick of dubious origins. Wick material is probably the most important factor influencing, taste, flavor, juice flow and last but not least HEALTH. Who wants to inhale fibers which get stuck to the lungs and lead to a myriad implications??
Please buy ONLY from reputable retailers who sell RoHS and CE approved wick material.
Thanks again Pyro for this reminder
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I had bought a short length of the ceramic rope from the above link to use on my odysseus after seeing a link for it on some other threads. I just received it today and from touching it I can tell you it's a bad idea. The stuff splinters into little fragments (definitely not good to be breathing into your lungs). Also, it burns because the stuff is not 100% fire resistant. To test a piece, I put a flame near it and about half the material was left over unharmed by the flame and what was left was a bunch of the little splinters I mentioned (similar to what you see from fiberglass insulation).

Just thought I'd post this as a caution because I've seen this stuff linked to in a few other threads and some videos.
 

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i'm not trying to rock the boat, but a lot of things are CE and RoHS compliant that have absolutely nothing to do with what we'd use them for, not to mention the things that falsely pass off these certifications. it's probably best to look for a lot more than these symbols, or best not to invest a whole lot of faith therein, if health is a main concern when researching/ choosing a wicking material.
 

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i'm not trying to rock the boat, but a lot of things are CE and RoHS compliant that have absolutely nothing to do with what we'd use them for, not to mention the things that falsely pass off these certifications. it's probably best to look for a lot more than these symbols, or best not to invest a whole lot of faith therein, if health is a main concern when researching/ choosing a wicking material.

Now I'm curious, are the COV wicks, CE and RoHS compliant?
 

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Very true buGG and it's an excellent point. We should look into what the RoHS and CE approvals are for.
i'm not trying to rock the boat, but a lot of things are CE and RoHS compliant that have absolutely nothing to do with what we'd use them for, not to mention the things that falsely pass off these certifications. it's probably best to look for a lot more than these symbols, or best not to invest a whole lot of faith therein, if health is a main concern when researching/ choosing a wicking material.
 

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For what i understand ROHS is something to do with being lead free and something about free of hazardous substance. Was in the electronics business in the past and that was what i was told before.. i think.

Oh and just to be sure i googled it.. apparently its a environmental preservation movement.
Don't think it covers health tho..

heres the wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restriction_of_Hazardous_Substances_Directive
 
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Read this about the RoHS compliance

The definition and aim of the RoHS directive is quite simple. The RoHS directive aims to restrict certain dangerous substances commonly used in electronic and electronic equipment. Any RoHS compliant component is tested for the presence of Lead (Pb), Cadmium (Cd), Mercury (Hg), Hexavalent chromium (Hex-Cr), Polybrominated biphenyls (PBB), and Polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDE). For Cadmium and Hexavalent chromium, there must be less than 0.01% of the substance by weight at raw homogeneous materials level. For Lead, PBB, and PBDE, there must be no more than 0.1% of the material, when calculated by weight at raw homogeneous materials. Any RoHS compliant component must have 100 ppm or less of mercury and the mercury must not have been intentionally added to the component. In the EU, some military and medical equipment are exempt from RoHS compliance.
 

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yep, it's primarily electronic stuff...an anti-lead initiative. no brass drip tips involved here or worries of hexavalent chromium from oxidized ss mesh. it doesn't tell us much about wicking materials and inhalation or respiratory concerns from a fabric wick. check the CE marking product group as well, not very helpful for these applications. knowing what your wick is and what, if any, chemical or material changes it undergoes when in use, is probably the best way to determine material safety data from a consumer standpoint.

edit: but to be clear, that's advice for those looking to put faith in a mark such as these for their wicks, or those looking place paramount importance on potential health concerns. i started like many did and still do... just happy to give up everything, known and unknown, that combustion and cigarettes in particular had to offer.
 
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I understand what you say BuGG. But better to buy things with ROSH and CE that things without any certification. Maybe there are better wicks out there maybe worse. Who really knows? Until we find out then better to vape something with certifications if you agree
i'm not trying to rock the boat, but a lot of things are CE and RoHS compliant that have absolutely nothing to do with what we'd use them for, not to mention the things that falsely pass off these certifications. it's probably best to look for a lot more than these symbols, or best not to invest a whole lot of faith therein, if health is a main concern when researching/ choosing a wicking material.
 
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