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Fizzpop

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I'm with the OP. I generally vape around 5.5-6.5 Watts, depending on the juice. Any more than that and things start tasting off - and this is in a Genesis tank with a ceramic wick.

Folks who are going for 15 Watts are probably chasing clouds - lots of power to make lots of juice vaporize. I don't think taste is the primary driver in those cases.
 

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I'm not a fan of the clearomizers myself, never got the flavor I got from a carto tank. But I know others that love them and they run 7.5 and lower, down to 5 watts for some.
It's whatever works for you! Some people like clearos, I don't, some like sub ohm coils, I don't. I like carto tanks, some don't. It's no biggie, it's great to finally have so many choices now so people can find what what they do or don't like and everybody is happy!
 

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Good thing these things are variable, huh!
Some of these settings are a bit surprising - but there simply ARE a lot of variables!
I run "off the shelf" coils (so far) - supposedly 1.8 but they're usually 1.9 or even 2, and I still have some 2.4's from before I realized my preference. And MOST of the time, I'm at 8 watts, but right this minute, I'm getting just the right vape at 7. No idea why - it must be the juice. I just checked, and it's not horrible at 5, but usually, I can hardly get vapor that low!
 

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IMO, there is no correct number of watts to vape at, no correct juice delivery device and no correct pv. It's all about starting points and then deciding what you like :thumb:

YES!!!

One vapes to taste, not by charts or math! Those just give you a range to start with. If the vape feels too warm or too cool or you don't feel you are getting enough vapor, that is when you look at adjusting, not because of where everyone else vapes. I have one set-up that the ubiquitous chart has in the red, and with another the chart insists I should be able to vape warmer - which I can't because it tastes burnt. I have the same juice in both devices!

If I tell you I vape at 11 watts and you should too, are you going to change your entire set-up to be able to vape at 11 watts?
 
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YES!!!

One vapes to taste, not by charts or math! Those just give you a range to start with. If the vape feels too warmer or too cool or you don't feel you are getting enough vapor, that is when you look at adjusting, not because of where everyone else vapes. I have one set-up that the ubiquitous chart has in the red, and with another the chart insists I should be able to vape it warmer - which I can't because it tastes burnt. I have the same juice in both devices!

If I tell you I vape at 11 watts and you should too, are you going to change your entire set-up to be able to vape at 11 watts?

I think there are three major factors at play here:

1) People have wildly differing tastes. I love me some hot Thai food that will make others sweat. YMMV.

2) Delivery device matters. A carto-tank is a different environment than a bottom feeder or a top feeder or a Genny tank. How much power it takes to heat up the juice is different in all these scenarios.

3) The juice! I find I like my sweet cake flavors at lower wattages, but my teas at a higher wattage. (My tobaccos higher still.) The juice itself matters.

That's the great thing about variable wattage/voltage, you can dial it in to be just right.

(I still think those vaping at 20 watts are concerned more with clouds than flavor, but having thought about carto-tanks, and the physics at play in that environment, I am backing off on this statement every so slightly.)
 
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Resistance isn't inherently meaningful, it's all about the build of the coil and the atomizer. No one variable can fully describe what any given setup does. The infamous resistance chart should be thrown out or heavily revised because some of the statements on it are just false and it does not reflect our current understanding of atomizers and devices.

For the OP, I bet those are voltage numbers. Pretty much nothing will burn at 5.5 watts in the vaping world.
 

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YES!!!

One vapes to taste, not by charts or math! Those just give you a range to start with. If the vape feels too warm or too cool or you don't feel you are getting enough vapor, that is when you look at adjusting, not because of where everyone else vapes. I have one set-up that the ubiquitous chart has in the red, and with another the chart insists I should be able to vape warmer - which I can't because it tastes burnt. I have the same juice in both devices!

If I tell you I vape at 11 watts and you should too, are you going to change your entire set-up to be able to vape at 11 watts?
Agreed, however it's always a good idea to start somewhere...but it's always a good idea to get a understanding of what your rig does and is capable of doing...let me explain

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The little USB passthru in the middle was a $6 "straight outta China" rig, It vapes like a freight train, I hit the button and instantly get a decent cloud and 2x puffs, today while checking my brand spanking new Vivi Nova 2.5 mini tank that ain't working (the 2.4Ω head is open!) I decided to go thru my heads and rigs to see just what they were doing for what kind of vape I was getting

Turns out the rig runs at 5vdc (duh it's USB) the head reads a flat 2.2Ω, using the chart http://www.ecigadvanced.com/community/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/power.jpg it's safe to say its way in the redline (mathematically its running 11.36 watts...holding the button down makes that coil heat up FAST and I would bet a dollar if I hold the button down too long...that little wire might go kapoof real quick...

Now the big rig on the far right is a Totally Wicked Tornado RCS , it vapes very good enough (its my workhorse...I can vape ALL day on this sucker and it keeps on trucking and with 3.5ml tank I put about 1/2 a tank dent at work), in fact I can choo choo train it (as in puff on it 4-5x hits and it keeps on making clouds) it says on their website it runs in two modes (a regulated 3.3vdc, and unregulated at 4.2vdc [I just realized I was running in unregulated mode!!!]) well read the head, it reads an exact 2.4Ω, and in unregulated it was pushing 4.0vdc exact from the chart above 6.67 watts, still vapes but it does take a puff or two to get rolling good. I set to regulated mode and it puffs just like it did before, (3.3vdc thru 2.4Ω-4.45watts)

Why would they vape thru such a wide voltage range, however on my RCS rig the first 2.4Ω head after ONE day I smoked it, burned taste and all (well my technique was wrong for one [its not an analog, long lung full draws are not the way to hit a e-cig, you puff it] and I was hitting it too long...aka holding the button down, and the American Red Tobacco juice was thicker than the juice I am rocking now) now if I can burn a coil at the original 6.67watts, how fast do you think I can burn it at 11.36watts!?

With that said with the proper technique and a thinner juice that wicks faster I haven't burned the head on my USB passthru

Why does a rig at 1/2 the power still vape well?

I guess what I am saying is why run your car at 12K rpm instead of 6K rpm? The destination is the same, yes you might not have the power poles zipping by like a picket fence but when you blow your motor getting there how productive is that trip?

Ultimately it's not the destination that matters, its the journey that counts ;)
 

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I vape The Vapor Chef Unicorn Juice and I don't go above 4.5-5watts with out it tasting burnt. To the OP, Vape where you feel good, just because others say to vape at 7-10 watts, doesn't mean that you have to. Vape at your sweet spot, everyone's is different.

I've been considering trying various "unicorns" from different vendors. From what I have heard they all seem to perform better at a lower power level.
 

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I think there are three major factors at play here:

1) People have wildly differing tastes. I love me some hot Thai food that will make others sweat. YMMV.

2) Delivery device matters. A carto-tank is a different environment than a bottom feeder or a top feeder or a Genny tank. How much power it takes to heat up the juice is different in all these scenarios.

3) The juice! I find I like my sweet cake flavors at lower wattages, but my teas at a higher wattage. (My tobaccos higher still.) The juice itself matters.

That's the great thing about variable wattage/voltage, you can dial it in to be just right.

(I still think those vaping at 20 watts are concerned more with clouds than flavor, but having thought about carto-tanks, and the physics at play in that environment, I am backing off on this statement every so slightly.)

I vape all day at around 20 watts in a AGA-T. I set up with zero nic juice (so no TH) for flavor, not clouds, though sometimes I get pretty good clouds too and that's OK :thumb:. If it gave me clouds with less flavor, I would change the set up to fix it.
 
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