we have a serious problem!!!

[wv2win]

If you want to combat these attacks:

Join & Support CASAA.

 

[Tedlee]

People have all sorts of reasons for not accepting ecigs. Some are tobacco haters and others associate vaping with smoking just because it looks like smoking. If you were chewing nicorette gum, you'd be getting the nic without exhaling vapor, but you'd probably be out in the break area sneaking a smoke here and there, too.

It kills me to hear people rave about the dangers of nicotine in homes in the presence of children. There are any number of brightly colored containers in the average home holding liquids that could kill children if they drank them.

Nice Gold Top!

 

[bluecat]

More neurotoxins

Ten Neurotoxins You Should Avoid | EnergyFanatics.com

Aspartame
Monosodium glutamate
Sucralose
Metallic aluminum
Mercury
Fluoride
Hydrolyzed vegetable protei
Calcium caseinate
Sodium caseinate
Yeast extract

Lets see all in common foods. If you eat chips.. yup neurotoxins... Oh snap... baby food... maybe that will get the politicians in an uproar... for the children and all.


We subject our bodies to neurotoxins everyday without even knowing it. These kind of journalist should be fired on the spot. Sadly.. the are all over the place. Why does it work? Most Americans are sheep and listen to any half brain dead journalist or politician as if they know what they are talking about. No one wants to think for themselves; they want everyone else to think for them.

 

[Ravensfan]

It's really scary how "they" try to take away our freedom to choose what we like to indulge in while not harming anyone.

Although there is absolutely no scientific proof that vaping is bad, they still treat us like ignorant children.

Governments could really care less what we do to ourselves, as long as what we're doing lines their pockets and the pockets of the huge corporations that sponsor them.

 

[coalyard]

If vaping is so bad, cigarettes should be outlawed tomorrow. But, all they do is rail about the dangers of smoking on one hand while accepting the huge tax receipts in the other.

Maybe a tax on ejuice would make them like us more.

This^^^^So much this. *Redundancy alert* It isn't about your health. It isn't about your safety. It isn't about the children. It never was. It is about control, and picking your pocket with taxes.

 

[Harlen]

I think I saw a bunch of 2 year old thugs at the vape shop getting ready to rob the store , looking for vape juice .
Yes the world has changed next week they are going to hang the old lady that farted on the bus , can't have people smuggling gas onto busses . It's the same old thing if you don't vape then only bad people vape

 

[meanckz]

I found this online "vape magazine" which should have plenty of rebuttal articles, facts and studies ... I think
I only had time to scan a couple things, but it struck as some well written stuff

Steve K's Vaping World - eCigarette Supersite | The Electronic Cigarette Supersite

judge for yourself and use what's appropriate

good hunting

 

[FireDragon1138]

As Paracleseus said, "The poison is in the dose". So it's true that nicotine is a neurotoxin, it's why plants produce nicotine.

 

[skoony]

when are we going to see all those hit pieces on that other deadly
neurotoxin caffeine?
i know there have been some,but not beaten to snot like the e-cig industry.
regards
mike

 

[crxess]

Hate this Glory Story reporting as much as anyone here. That said, the information is Twisted truths not lies.

Nicotine is HIGHLY DEADLY in its PURIST form. 1spoon PURE Nicotine(100%) will kill anyone at any time if ingested. This is why it is unavailable to the General public.
Nicotine is sold Retail(distribution) at a Max 10% or 100mg/ml. Even that must be handled with extreme care.

We need to stop trying to counter their idiocy with denial and make them understand we Know the numbers, the risk and the concerns. We also understand Safety in the home be it E-liquids, Gas Stoves or Prescription medications.

If you come across an article and they allow comments - Link this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/15/nicotine-in-vegetables_n_1597087.html

Nicotine is a natural part of life

 

[CabinetGuyScott]

One of the challenges here in the ECF universe is that it is so BIG

Most of the traffic is concentrated into these 'General ___' groups, and thus many people miss the topic-specific groups.

For example, there is a wealth of rebuttal information to these junk-science, pure lies mixed with unadulterated propaganda type stories, to be found in the Media & General News group.

Every user here should bookmark, and add this Media & General News group to their daily ECF rotation:

Media & General News

And right along with that new bookmark, every single user needs to pop over to CASAA.org , become a member, and check out the available resources to arm yourself with.

Everyone taking up the challenges we face, by keeping up with the latest attacks, and responses, and then sharing that information to those we are connected to, will move our (educational & information) cause forward, 1 person at a time.

To the OP - we all feel your frustrations, and hopefully you'll find the right tool/method/strategy to help expand your boss' understanding of the real facts & truth behind the scare-mongering.

 

[Grimwald]

I does seem like the anti folks get all the press. It would be nice if there were more positive stories (better known as the truth)...fair and balanced ya know. I guess BT and BP have all the power and money.

 

[tyjames]

Ive gotten e-liq in my mouth on many occasions.. I find it similar to chewing tabacco.. which in itself should be worse. I used to swallow chewing tabacco all the time. Did nothing harmful to me.

 

[ScottP]

I read the NYT article and after crying about how lethal nicotine is, he went on to say that only ONE fatality has occurred and that was a suicide by an ADULT who injected the liquid directly into his veins.

 

[ScottP]

It's really scary how "they" try to take away our freedom to choose what we like to indulge in while not harming anyone.

Although there is absolutely no scientific proof that vaping is bad, they still treat us like ignorant children.

At the risk of sounding like a nut job, the more I watch what the government's of the world are doing, the more I see the future of what the world will be like once the UN Agenda 21 gets fully implemented. There are certain rights that people have in many countries that have to be eroded first for it to work. If you have never heard of Agenda 21, do a quick search on it...read a few articles.

 

[supermarket]

the media has been attacking us pretty badly lately. the local newspaper has been particularity bad. my boss at work really ...... me off as well. we have a bulletin board at work and he thought it would be a good idea to post one of these articles knowing full well that one of his employees is a vaper. i asked him if was trying to piss me off, because he did.

the article in question was about e-liquid and it was in the buffalo news. it was a great case of "yellow" journalism. it called e-liquid a "dangerous neurotoxin" and said that "even small amounts even when diluted can kill". both boldface lies. e-liquid contains nicotine and is a MILD stimulant and small amounts certainly do NOT kill. we all have suffered the effects of juice in the mouth, you spit it out it tastes nasty but it is hardly something that you consider to be deadly. it also babbled on about a couple of cases where young kids drank e-liquid and died... which i can neither confirm or deny, but it was the first i have ever heard of it. has anyone died from diluted e liquid yet? what the article should have been about was being a responsible parrent and keeping your juice away from your kid. it was some of the worst reporting i have read in a while... it really ...... me off. no where did it mention that these devices have led to millions of people quitting smoking that would otherwise still be burning truely toxic cigarettes. it even went as far to say "e-liquid is more dangerous then tobacco". really????? tobacoo kills more then 430,000 people per year. it is the single most lethal thing on the planet. what could be more dangerous then that?? i get the feeling from reading that garbage that the author was in favor of giving the entire industry to big tobacco...... PURE EVIL in so many ways. its downright demonic. vaping needs to remain its own industry and if big tobacco eventually goes out of buisness, good they are nothing but evil murderers

another article that was printed recently basically stated that you should quit smoking using FDA approved gums, patches, and therapy. we all know how in-effective gum and patches are compared to vaping. we also know how effective vaping is.

what are good recent article to read, print, and spread around to combat this non-sense. heck, i would even maybe like to send those articles to the editor of the newspaper that published that garbage and demand that they publish a rebuttal. they really should stick to the facts. stop lying to people, they might be encouraging people to continue to smoke.

Sorry your boss is an imbecile

I've converted quite a few people at my job, and everyone there knows I vape. Some people joke around about it, just like they do about anything they either don't understand, or is new/different to them...but nothing too bad.

When I started working there, not a single person vaped....now a bunch of ppl do.


As for the negativity e-cigs are getting.....don't worry about it. Worrying doesn't help. Just keep doing YOUR part. There is a LOT of money being spent to discredit e-cigs. Or to get them regulated.

E-cigs isn't the first, and won't be the last good thing we will see being attacked. In my lifetime, I've witnessed quite a few good things being attacked by the media, corporate interests, and/or interest groups. Nothing new to me.

 

[erinarthur222]

chalk to up to ignorance and move on .

 

[Bunnykiller]

It's because the Government "Thinks" that people are too stupid to make their own decisions.

with all of the people out there making their claims as to how dangerous vaping and the juice is and how everyone is going to die from just looking at a vape cloud then yes what you said is true
the people have made a decision to believe the BS and not believe what is generally true about vaping...

 

[Bunnykiller]

Ive gotten e-liq in my mouth on many occasions.. I find it similar to chewing tabacco.. which in itself should be worse. I used to swallow chewing tabacco all the time. Did nothing harmful to me.

I accidentally swallowed the juice while being introduced to REDMAN and that was one rather unpleasant 1/2 hour....

 

[cmknight]

You could always put a little sign above the newspaper article ... "Opinions are like a**holes. Everybody has one."

or

You could just go here:

onVaping The Ultimate List of E-Cig Studies: Are E-Cigs Actually Safe? *Updated 2/16/14 » onVaping