Hey everyone, I need some advice on my mech mod. The issue is that I'm barely getting any vape and flavor and I don't know what the issue is. I'm running the Govad rda with "The Bandit" mech mod. I'm using a single 4 wrap Clapton coil running at .23 ohms. I'm also using the basic brown 18650 battery. Please help me figure out why I'm not getting a lot of power.
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I'm not familiar with the Bandit mod but just thinking out loud here.
If by basic brown batteries you mean the LG HG2 your battery should be good for that build drawing about 18 amps, although I prefer to run HB6s for a little more margin for error. There are some fakes circulating so that could be an issue. If you follow @Mooch he has great battery info in his blog.
The next thing I would check is to make sure your coil leads are tightened down snugly, they can have a habit of loosening up and causing that at times.
The most likely culprit is bad or dirty connections between contact points. Follow the electrical current path from the battery, starting at the battery contacts, all the way to the coil. Anywhere there is a contact point in the circuit make sure the surfaces are clean and making good contact. This includes the 510 connector. A little isopropyl alcohol can clean up the contacts and some of this https://www.amazon.com/NO-OX-ID-Spe...rd_wg=Dy5wB&psc=1&refRID=81Q7J813081PPGM2X8NA
Goes a long way in keeping them nice and conductive.
Hope that helps.
I'm not familiar with the Bandit mod but just thinking out loud here.
If by basic brown batteries you mean the LG HG2 your battery should be good for that build drawing about 18 amps, although I prefer to run HB6s for a little more margin for error. There are some fakes circulating so that could be an issue. If you follow @Mooch he has great battery info in his blog.
The next thing I would check is to make sure your coil leads are tightened down snugly, they can have a habit of loosening up and causing that at times.
The most likely culprit is bad or dirty connections between contact points. Follow the electrical current path from the battery, starting at the battery contacts, all the way to the coil. Anywhere there is a contact point in the circuit make sure the surfaces are clean and making good contact. This includes the 510 connector. A little isopropyl alcohol can clean up the contacts and some of this https://www.amazon.com/NO-OX-ID-Spe...rd_wg=Dy5wB&psc=1&refRID=81Q7J813081PPGM2X8NA
Goes a long way in keeping them nice and conductive.
Hope that helps.
Have you tried other coil builds yet?
Is this your first mech mod?
What were you vaping before this?
Is the Bandit's contacts clean, free off carbon buildup (black spots on contacts)?
Have you checked your build on an ohm reader to see if all is good?
Is this your first mech mod?
What were you vaping before this?
Is the Bandit's contacts clean, free off carbon buildup (black spots on contacts)?
Have you checked your build on an ohm reader to see if all is good?
That was the other thing I meant to touch on. Depending on the inherent voltage drop of the mod, a Clapton coil may just not be getting enough power on a mech. Have you tried a simple single round wire build?
I always say... "Clapton's / fused Clapton's are good, but they're built for regulated devices..."
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Sounds to me like your battery doesn't have enough power to push that Clapton. Try a regular (non-clapton) coil build, spaced the coils out, return with a result. If the results are the same, then it's a battery / mod / conductivity issue. If the results are better, then you'll know... Avoid Clapton's on a mech mod.
Another thing... Mod material. Is it brass, stainless, copper, silver / gold (plated)? Mod material can cause issue too.
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Another thing... Mod material. Is it brass, stainless, copper, silver / gold (plated)? Mod material can cause issue too.
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Claptons are inefficient due to the large mass of metal, and will heat slowly on a mech.
Those exotic coils look cool but they don't function any better than a single strand coil.
They arent designed for single cell mechs.
Claptons and exotic coils are why we have 200w+mods.
You need more power to heat that mass of wire.
@devintcoon He welcome to the forum. First since you do have power, remove your topper an check how much vapor is being produced in the chamber. If you have plenty check your air holes to make sure they are open. If the vapor production is low with the top off. 1. tighten the connections the coil ties into. 2. check or change batteries 3. remove the wick make sure you are getting a inside to out glow. Rewick you wick could be using the wrong size wick for the coil you are looking for a slight friction when you pull the wick through. Other things could be happening your pos pin may not be making good contact with the 510. You could watch this video on a multimeter. Hope this helps ya
My guess like the others is the clapton at .23, imho a 28ga 316L single 2.5mm 6 or 7 wrap would work great with that setup. The steps above will help you troubleshoot most any problem.
My guess like the others is the clapton at .23, imho a 28ga 316L single 2.5mm 6 or 7 wrap would work great with that setup. The steps above will help you troubleshoot most any problem.
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I'd be very surprised if there was a "fault" with your set up. The build is just not suitable for the mod.
Is it all kanthal Or nichrome? And how tight is it might just take a while to ramp up. Or maybe your leads aren't tightens down getting g a good connection. Or its ur battery and the contacts. First try tightening your leads. Thats my honest opinion
No this is my first coil build.
This is my first personal mech mod but I've used other before.
I normally use the smok g prive 220w
Yes I've cleaned it multiple times to be sure.
And yes it still reads at .23 ohms
Another question I have is does it apply to just Clapton coils or does it apply to all coils other than single wire
It applies to larger mass coils. You'd experience the same results with naked (single wire) 20g-22g Ka1
Even naked 24g Kanthal has a slower ramp time than I'd prefer (I don't usually build below .2 for my single batt. mechs.)
Like what was mentioned above, it's most likely the clapton coil having a huge ... to ramp up. Try some normal round wire builds to see if it gets any better?
Hope you get it sorted bud.
@devintcoon Would be helpful to know what material and wire gauges your core(s) and outer wrap are... Higher gauge SS wire could minimze your ramp time. If you built these claptons, try some 28g SS with Ka1, N80 or even more SS 32g+ "wrapping" wire. You'll be amazed at the difference in performance and flavor the SS will provide....
Many great replies already.
I did not read that you are running single or dual Clapton(s). If running duals, you may wish to try reducing the overall wire mass by running single coil option.
Photo example:
I like single coil stagger-fused Clapton in my single bat. tube Mech's. All s/s wire to get single-coil resistance down. I throw in a single parallel wire for a staged heating effect.
Like to build so vape is a bit on the hot side at 4.2v (multi-fire the button to reduce output), as approaches 4-4.1v vapes nice down to about 3.8v
Having a base-line build to test condition of your mech is good idea. Example: Few days ago flavor & vapor became noticably reduced on one of my Mech's. By switching to other mech it became evident I need to clean the switch contacts in that direct-to-battery mech (the one with reduced output). The degradation of the vape was gradual, but became evident using an alternate mech with freshly cleaned contacts. The difference was like night & day (I keep my gear clean, but surface oxidation builds over time regardless and needs periodic attention).
Also, I like to have good general idea of how an atty build vapes on my Mech's (both single 18650 & dual 18650), and at what settings it vapes similarly on a regulated mod. This allows switching to a reg-mods to check if reduced performance is related to mod or build.
Photos below are two different, but similar, builds.
I did not read that you are running single or dual Clapton(s). If running duals, you may wish to try reducing the overall wire mass by running single coil option.
Photo example:
I like single coil stagger-fused Clapton in my single bat. tube Mech's. All s/s wire to get single-coil resistance down. I throw in a single parallel wire for a staged heating effect.
Like to build so vape is a bit on the hot side at 4.2v (multi-fire the button to reduce output), as approaches 4-4.1v vapes nice down to about 3.8v
Having a base-line build to test condition of your mech is good idea. Example: Few days ago flavor & vapor became noticably reduced on one of my Mech's. By switching to other mech it became evident I need to clean the switch contacts in that direct-to-battery mech (the one with reduced output). The degradation of the vape was gradual, but became evident using an alternate mech with freshly cleaned contacts. The difference was like night & day (I keep my gear clean, but surface oxidation builds over time regardless and needs periodic attention).
Also, I like to have good general idea of how an atty build vapes on my Mech's (both single 18650 & dual 18650), and at what settings it vapes similarly on a regulated mod. This allows switching to a reg-mods to check if reduced performance is related to mod or build.
Photos below are two different, but similar, builds.
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I use Clapton's and wild builds in my mechs
It's all ur ohms and how low ur willing to go
"Disclaimer" I build stupid low and I don't recommend is and I will prob get someone telling me that dumb or what not but here I go
For claps I use n90 cores 22ga at .08 ish
Or simple 20ga n90 at .08-.1
For my series mods claps at .24is
My wild coils go on Parallel /series at .15
I use lg hb6 batts and rotate out my batteries every 90 days
Not saying anyone shod vape like this it's not the safest style of vaping but it's what I enjoy
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It's all ur ohms and how low ur willing to go
"Disclaimer" I build stupid low and I don't recommend is and I will prob get someone telling me that dumb or what not but here I go
For claps I use n90 cores 22ga at .08 ish
Or simple 20ga n90 at .08-.1
For my series mods claps at .24is
My wild coils go on Parallel /series at .15
I use lg hb6 batts and rotate out my batteries every 90 days
Not saying anyone shod vape like this it's not the safest style of vaping but it's what I enjoy
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