Wear Gloves!

[GraCnT]

I'm not sure how this could have happened to you using a pre mixed juice.... Even at the highest 36mg.... Unless it was on your skin for a very long time. And still.....
But,
If it did.... Sorry you felt sick.
I as a newb (jeeze, I'm still a newb lol) spilled my 24mg juice on my hands numerous times. I need to wear glasses, and being the lazy idiot,, didn't get up to get them. I know.... Meh~ I wiped it off and when I was finished filling I washed up. I was ok.
If working with very high base it makes sense to wear gloves and still being nuts I don't.I use 50mg base & my specs lol, and so far so good..
I use the condom method to fill my cartos and it is quick & easy peasy and for me fool proof....
Good luck and vape on! The most important thing here is,, staying off those coffin nails!

 

[Tommykcleveland]

Way to spread misinformation and fear throughout the forums bub. Not only have I been a member here for going on 4 years but Ive also owned my own e-cig business selling and mixing liquids.The only reason we arent in business now is because the FDA illegally seized a shipment valued at 7k and then destroyed it. Ive also attended several major vape meets including the first ever in Fredericksburg Va, Vapercon, Vapebash and a host of smaller local meets. Ive been vaping,reading and contributing to these forums almost since the very beginning.

If you really want to go there I could list names of people that I call friends that are damn near famous in this business as well, so I think I know a thing or two about vaping. The only explanation I have for your symptoms is that you werent a very heavy smoker(if at all) before vaping or that its all in your head.

Your basing your information on a scientific article instead of real life experience and well documented anecdotal evidence from these forums.That articles discusses pure nicotine, even 100mg nicotine is only 10 percent in a solution that SLOWS ABSORPTION through the skin. Neither of those sources mentions vegetable glycerin or pg (which are used as moisturizers by the way) Thats what youre not understanding. Dont take my word for it, ask on the DIY forums just dont blame me when they laugh at you and say you dont know what youre talking about.

Gloves and eye protection should ALWAYS be worn when mixing liquids or handling nicotine but 100mg of nicotine (10% by volume) accidentally dripped on the skin isnt going to kill you instantly like a spy taking cyanide pills like you'd have everyone believe. It probably wont even make you sick if you smoked a pack a day before switching to vaping.

This argument is like a kid whos read all about racing trying to tell genuine race car drivers how to drive.YOU can certainly think you know what youre talking about about if it makes you happy but the rest of us know youre full of .....

I have messaged this person personally and explained why I posted what I did. I will clarify my statement by repeating the fact that at the time of this original post I was new and had information from a vendor that ended up with me having 48 mg of nicotine juice all over my hands for atleast 10 minutes or more. My experience was just as I stated and not embellished in any way. I do agree that splashing a little on the skin will not cause significant problems. It is best to simply rinse it off with water. For anyone new to this without much or any experience I still recommend gloves in case you don't know what you are doing and have nicotine liquid all over your hands. I admitted in my post that I was a dumb ... for allowing all of that juice to be on my hands and not washing it off right away. I still use gloves if I am doing heavy filling with a lot of cartos or tanks. For a few here and there I don't find it neccesary anymore. Once again if you are new, I would suggest disregarding the previous post by the other gentleman until you know what you a doing and do not allow liquid nicotine to stay on your skin for any period of time. I'm sharring my experience and an article that is clear that nicotine does quickly absorb into skin. I understand that juice which has the nicotine suspended in vg or pg is not the same as pure liquid nicotine, but it has enough in it to be very cautious when handling it.

 

[zapped]

What vendor sells 48mg liquid anymore? Its hard enough to even find 36mg.

You started off in your original post saying that the vendor didnt provide any instructions on how to fill a carto, now he gave bad instructions.Which one is it? I'm confused.

Even as a noob I dont think many of us ever spilled half a bottle all over our hands trying to fill a carto with a syringe of all things???? Then let it sit on our hands for ten minutes on top of it? It all sounds VERY convenient. I can fill a standard carto in less than 2 minutes. My tank even quicker. Even if I was going through DT's and having an epileptic seizure, I doubt I'd spill more than a few drops. Its starting to sound like you caught in a lie and are just trying to save face at this point.

Im starting to wonder what exactly your agenda is here? Knowing that the FDA and ANTz datamine this forum, I have to question the intelligence of posting incorrect and potentially harmful information that could be used by them in their fight against us????

Maybe you werent aware of that being new, but I can assure it happens every day and is one of the reasons why talk of illicit drugs isnt allowed here either.It would be stupid in the extreme to hand them the ammunition they need to shoot us in the face.

Plenty of new vapers search this forum trying to find information to help them quit cigarettes and find a setup that works for them. Most of us here are more than glad to help in any way we can.One of those ways is calling people out for posting information that simply isn't true. If you dont want to be embarassed dont act like your an expert on the subject barely 4 months into vaping and scare the hell out of those just starting out by making them think they need to wear gloves just to fill a carto.

The PM wasnt needed.Its nothing personal but if you continue to post B.S expect to be called out about it in the future.It's pretty simple...dont post something as a fact when its just your (admittedly limited) opinion and we'll all get along just fine.

 

[Tommykcleveland]

What vendor sells 48mg liquid anymore? Its hard enough to even find 36mg.

You started off in your original post saying that the vendor didn't provide any instructions on how to fill a carto, now he gave bad instructions.Which one is it? I'm confused.

Even as a noob I dont think many of us ever spilled half a bottle all over our hands trying to fill a carto with a syringe of all things???? Then let it sit on our hands for ten minutes on top of it? It all sounds VERY convenient. I can fill a standard carto in less than 2 minutes. My tank even quicker. Even if I was going through DT's and having an epileptic seizure, I doubt I'd spill more than a few drops. Its starting to sound like you caught in a lie and are just trying to save face at this point.

Im starting to wonder what exactly your agenda is here? Knowing that the FDA and ANTz datamine this forum, I have to question the intelligence of posting incorrect and potentially harmful information that could be used by them in their fight against us????

Maybe you werent aware of that being new, but I can assure it happens every day and is one of the reasons why talk of illicit drugs isnt allowed here either.It would be stupid in the extreme to hand them the ammunition they need to shoot us in the face.

Plenty of new vapers search this forum trying to find information to help them quit cigarettes and find a setup that works for them. Most of us here are more than glad to help in any way we can.One of those ways is calling people out for posting information that simply isn't true. If you dont want to be embarassed dont act like your an expert on the subject barely 4 months into vaping and scare the hell out of those just starting out by making them think they need to wear gloves just to fill a carto.

The PM wasnt needed.Its nothing personal but if you continue to post B.S expect to be called out about it in the future.It's pretty simple...dont post something as a fact when its just your (admittedly limited) opinion and we'll all get along just fine.

Listen, you are paranoid. I did not get any instructions, I called the number on the business card and was given the instructions verbaly.
2. who said anything about a half bottle? Having juice coming out the bottom of a carto because I was told to put way too much juice in was plenty enough on my hands to soak in. 3. I got the juice from my freedom smokes who sells up to 48 mg like I said, follow the link: Tobacco E-Liquid
3. once again you are paranoid, I am a hospital chaplain that enjoys vaping and did smoke camel non filters for 28 years before I started vaping. I am aware that there are some government oppositions; however I have way more important things to do than even pay attention to that. 4. The first time I filled I did not use a syringe, read my post and stop misquoting me. I started using a syringe after that and do so currently. I am pro vaping, I have bought probably a $1000 worth of stuff in the past few months so I can experiment and decide what I like.
It is this simple, I had an experience that I felt might help new people, that is the reason for the forum I posted in. What I posted was exactly what happened as I stated.
Your attacks are untrue and completely unnecessary. I have no reason to save face to anyone, much less in here. I am not going to respond to anything else you post and will not communicate with you via pm. Do not bother me again, I have done nothing wrong and in fact hope I have helped some people. Why are you so angry and paranoid? You are making accusations without even looking at my post to see what I said. So that is it, I you feel you need to do this to grown adults who are just trying to start learning about and enjoying vaping then I think it might be something for you to look at and not project it onto others. BTW if you are having trouble finding 36 mg after 5 years, I have bought it from 3 vendors within the last 4 months, I would be glad to give you those links if you are interested. Also, I will never use 48 mg straight again, I did not know how strong that was, I am at 36 mg and very pleased with that.

 

[zoiDman]

Wearing Gloves and Eye Protection is a Must in My book when working with High Concentrations of Nicotine. And if a person feels More Comfortable wearing Gloves when working around Day-to-Day concentrations of Nicotine, I say Do It.

Since this is a Tips and Tricks sub-forum, I’ll throw out a Tip that I learned the Hard Way.

And that is when you work with Any Nicotine, Flavoring, PG, VG or an e-Liquid, Always work over something that can Catch a Spill.

I like to use a Low Lipped Stainless Steel oven tray.

I can tell you that sometimes a Bottle of e-Liquid will just Spontaneously Decide to Fall Over causing a Mini Haz-Mat Spill. Or that you think you are Filling a Clearo right only to find that you just pumped an Eye Dropper full of e-Liquid down the Clearo’s Center Hole.

If your working over something to Catch the spill, No Big Deal. But if you working over a 50 year old Mahogany Desk that is a Semi Family Heirloom, it could be a Huge Problem.

Trust me, I know.

 

[zoiDman]

Complete and utter hogwash! Nicotine DOES NOT absorb rapidly through the skin, why do you think the patch needs constant contact?

...

Nicotine Patch technology may have changed since I tried using the patch Years ago.

But I know that when I tried the Patch that they would sometimes come off at night while I was Asleep. I would freak out that I wasn’t getting my Nicotine. When I told my Doctor about this She told me that it wasn’t Anything to worry about.

Because the Skin Absorbs Almost all of the Nicotine within about 30 or 40 Minutes of putting the Patch On. And then the Nicotine is then Slowly absorbed into the Blood Stream over the course of the next 6 or 7 hours.

She told me if I wanted to take the Patch Off after 45 minutes or an hour of putting it on that it Didn’t make any real Difference. Wearing the Patch longer was more of a Psychological reinforcement for people so they can look down a feel like they are getting Nicotine.

And that once I knew how the Patch work, there wouldn't be any Psychological reinforcement from wearing it all day.

 

[Tommykcleveland]

Wearing Gloves and Eye Protection is a Must in My book when working with High Concentrations of Nicotine. And if a person feels More Comfortable wearing Gloves when working around Day-to-Day concentrations of Nicotine, I say Do It.

Since this is a Tips and Tricks sub-forum, I’ll throw out a Tip that I learned the Hard Way.

And that is when you work with Any Nicotine, Flavoring, PG, VG or an e-Liquid, Always work over something that can Catch a Spill.

I like to use a Low Lipped Stainless Steel oven tray.

I can tell you that sometimes a Bottle of e-Liquid will just Spontaneously Decide to Fall Over causing a Mini Haz-Mat Spill. Or that you think you are Filling a Clearo right only to find that you just pumped an Eye Dropper full of e-Liquid down the Clearo’s Center Hole.

If your working over something to Catch the spill, No Big Deal. But if you working over a 50 year old Mahogany Desk that is a Semi Family Heirloom, it could be a Huge Problem.

Trust me, I know.

I learned that one very quickly too. I actually have a bathroom connected to my bedroom with big counters on both sides of the sink. I put plastic grocery bags down to make cleaning up any drips easy. i keep dirty on left and clean on right, paper towels to wipes stuff down with. If I am topping off a carto or clero I don't wear gloves, but when I am cleaning and filling a whole bunch of them I always wear gloves even though I don't make very much mess after practicing for a while. There are are always some drips and drops so I would rather keep it safe. The patches they have now have certain dosages of nicotine between membranes of film. As the nicotine wears off the membrane does too and opens the next dose of nicotine. I suppose it is just to keep an even controlled amount to dispurse over 24 hours. I really enjoy vaping for many reasons so I have no plans to stop at this point. I had major lung problems from smoking camels 28 years, but I honesly always loved the taste and experience. With vaping I get some different tastes, but the experience is actually better because of all the vapor produced, I presume this is the case for many people who vape. I honestly have found a real good tabaccoo flavor that i either use alone or mix with vanilla. I buy 36 mg for that, but mixers and other choices only seem to come in 24 mg as the highest. When I mix the two I get a happy medium of nicotine still. When I just started and bought that 48 mg i did not know what that would work out to be, as opposed to the smoking of cigarettes. I didn't feel well after taking a few hits and realized it was way too much. I'm happy with 36 or a little less so I stick with that. I use a syringe with a 1.5 needle, 22 gauge. I just put the plug in the bottom and the condom over it, fill slowly and cross over 4 points and suck the little bit out of the middle and blow it out for extra measure. This way works perfect for me and has little mess but great saturation. I got some great needle nose bottles with my favorite flavors and top off cartos with them, and fill clearos with them. Finally got a good system after some really messy mistakes.

 

[Tommykcleveland]

one other thing about the patch is that it has a very small amount of nicotine in it. I think around 2 to 4 mg disbursed over 24 hours. It is not even a comparison to vaping.

 

[andyl66]

I just keep some trusty tissues around . I've had major spills and had my hands soaked in the stuff. I've also, on several occasions been stealth vaping and ended up with a mouthful of juice and had to swallow. Not a great idea to drink it. However, I've never had any bad effects from any of these events.

Although, when I first started vaping I stupidly only vaped the real high strength stuff, 36mg etc and wondered why I was constantly tired. Lol. Now I'm more than happy on 11mg menthol...


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[zWarlock]

I've had this happen a couple of times myself .. nasty feeling for sure ..

 

[newconvert]

I mean is it really necessary to wear gloves to fill a cartomizer?? lol...

if'n yer aferd!!

 

[Un-Loco]

Lol i feel embarrassed for this guy

Did the juice ruin your fingernail polish too?

Edit: i apologize.. Its late and i really have been laughing at this. When i came into tips and tricks and saw "wear gloves". I was like "noooo, it can't be..." Sure enough.

 

[Racehorse]

This is a prime example of why you should look at someone's post count before taking what they say to heart.

I could list names of people that I call friends that are damn near famous in this business as well

Ive also attended several major vape meets including the first ever in Fredericksburg Va, Vapercon, Vapebash and a host of smaller local meets. Ive been vaping,reading and contributing to these forums almost since the very beginning.

Do you have an inferiority complex or something? Really, just asking.

 

[Racehorse]

I have never had a problem with a bit of juice at any vaping concentration on my skin and I've sometimes just left it there until it was convenient to wash it off.

Unfortunately, that is not true for everyone, I am an example.

I use 12mg nic e-juice. I spill it on myself quite often. My doctor, who is 100% PRO-Vaping, suggested I wear gloves, even handling ejuice, while he was looking at my hands....my skin peels off every place I have dropped juice, even if I do wash it off or maybe I'm not getting it all or something. I have this peeling skin, and then you can see that new, pink skin underneath. LOL

So, everyone should do whatever works for them. Every body is different, and in my case, I guess 12mg nic in 100% vg is too caustic for *my* skin to handle.

My doctor works with a physical therapist at my local hospital, who vapes 24mg nic, spills it on his skin, with zero bad effect. So we have agreed that my skin, and my body, is just not the same as the physical therapist's.

 

[coho72]

Unfortunately, that is not true for everyone, I am an example.

I use 12mg nic e-juice. I spill it on myself quite often. My doctor, who is 100% PRO-Vaping, suggested I wear gloves, even handling ejuice, while he was looking at my hands....my skin peels off every place I have dropped juice, even if I do wash it off or maybe I'm not getting it all or something. I have this peeling skin, and then you can see that new, pink skin underneath. LOL

So, everyone should do whatever works for them. Every body is different, and in my case, I guess 12mg nic in 100% vg is too caustic for *my* skin to handle.

My doctor works with a physical therapist at my local hospital, who vapes 24mg nic, spills it on his skin, with zero bad effect. So we have agreed that my skin, and my body, is just not the same as the physical therapist's.

If my skin fell off when I dropped 12mg juice on myself , I would stick with cigarettes , seems they would be less harmful in your case. Thats more than a sensativity issue bud , on average most people can get 24 mg juice all over themselves and not think twice about it , I cant imagine if I was a Dr. and my patient came in looking like a lepur after getting a few drops of 12mg , I would be pro vaping for him but thats just me.

 

[Un-Loco]

Im not hating on people who need or want to wear gloves. Does not affect me in any way. Yea, i may laugh if they put it in the tips and tricks section but i just mean it in jest. =P

 

[Racehorse]

If my skin fell off when I dropped 12mg juice on myself , I would stick with cigarettes , seems they would be less harmful in your case. Thats more than a sensativity issue bud , on average most people can get 24 mg juice all over themselves and not think twice about it , I cant imagine if I was a Dr. and my patient came in looking like a lepur after getting a few drops of 12mg , I would be pro vaping for him but thats just me.

eh, he knows i have sensitive skin. Kinda typical for me.

I can't even use sunscreen, I break out.....only can use natural zinc oxide, that white stuff you put on nose when we were kids.

But I understand where you're coming from Coho. Dr. does admit we don't know much about ecigs....however, he believes that nothing could be as bad a smoking analogs, and since vaping DID get me off analogs, he's rooting for me. My mom is very ill w/advanced emphesema, she was a smoker, it is directly because of smoking, so really, I feel like vaping really is harm reduction.

I think I'll drop my nic down to 6%. See if that helps. Will report back. May even start vaping less that 6%....I just still enjoy vaping

 

[tinypaperweight]

All I know is that I would rather be cautious than over confidant. I had a bad experience with using 14mg Nic Patch once upon a time. So I know that concentrations are no joke.

 

[harrycan]

I was searching YT for videos on how to refill carts,and there are a lot of people wiping e-juice on there shirts\clothing.

 

[BlueMoods]

Well, as a DIYer, I don't need gloved to fill carts, just when I'm mixing but then, I'm dealing with 100mg nic then so, yeah that could OD me fast if more than a drop got on my skin. But then I have a pretty high nic tolerance - can vape 46mg all day long no dizziness or anything and, I sleep fine.

I suppose a few folks could be a lot more sensitive, like my sis that has to wear gloves to cut tomatoes because the acid in them irritates her skin much like hot peppers do most of us.