Weird sitch w premix juice and vg

[Bunbun]

Hey everybody, new here. I have a puzzling one. Makes zero sense to me. Hopefully, y'all can help.

So I went to Michael's and bought Loranns food grade vg. Added .8ml to 4.2ml of aqua drops 6 nic ejuice. Shake, shake, shake....shake, shake, shake. Put it in my Cerberus tank with .17 ohm coil. Fired it on the drag mini (I believe, hand-me-down) at my usual 62W and it seemed to have burned really hot. Airflow almost all the way open. I had to turn it down to 52W, and it still was burning my mouth. Why? Did I instantly burn my coil bc of the vg? I usually mix the aqua with Jimmy the juicemans strawberry astronaut 3 nic max vg. But the only local B&M that still sells it closed, online can take up to 2 wks, and I'm out. Just trying to find an alternative. Thanks in advance.

 

[TARTARA]

@Bunbun

Welcome on ECF, i don't know about this specific liquids, but the only thing that i can imagine is maybe the new one is more thick... or try it on a new coil... !? Maybe someone else can help better... !? Have a good one !

 

[somdcomputerguy]

Welcome to ECF, Bunbun.

 

[Territoo]

Make sure you are not vaping a LorAnns flavor that is oil soluble. The water based ones are okay. Here's a chart (kinda old) that let's you know which LorAnns flavors are safe.

 

[smacuser]

I believe the OP stated they bought LorAnns VG. I don’t know if this was a first time buy, or even if it’s USP grade (which gives me pause for doubt).

Welcome to ecf @Bunbun

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Hi @Bunbun and welcome to ECF.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

The LorAnn webpage for their vegetable glycerin does not say it's USP Grade.

Natural Vegetable Glycerine | LorAnn Oils

Vegetable Glycerin, Natural 4 oz.

www.lorannoils.com

Doesn't say on the their label either.

When buying VG for vaping one must always know that it's USP grade.

It's very very clearly labeled "USP Grade" on those.

"USP grade meets or exceeds requirements of the United States Pharmacopeia (USP). This grade is acceptable for food, drug, or medicinal use."


Personally, I would never vape VG that isn't USP Grade. Nope. Never. Ever.

 

[Territoo]

I believe the OP stated they bought LorAnns VG. I don’t know if this was a first time buy, or even if it’s USP grade (which gives me pause for doubt).

Welcome to ecf @Bunbun

Mea culpa. I missed that part about VG. I didn't know LorAnns made VG, but from what I know about the brand, that they also make essential oils, their VG is meant for cosmetics and lotions. I wouldn't use it for vaping, but I wouldn't think that it is the cause of OP's problems, just that it would cause long term health problems or could be toxic when inhaled, imo.

 

[smacuser]

He’s probably dead

 

[BrotherBob]

Hey everybody, new here.

Welcome and glad you joined.

 

[Bunbun]

Make sure you are not vaping a LorAnns flavor that is oil soluble. The water based ones are okay. Here's a chart (kinda old) that let's you know which LorAnns flavors are safe.

Thank you! That'll come in handy!

 

[Bunbun]

Wow! So many responses! No, not dead, lol! Just didn't get any emails notifications (weird). I apologize. Thank you all so much! So yes, it was just the vg added to an already made ejuice to knock down the nic level. No it's not USP. It is food grade tho. The only local I could find that said USP was at CVS in skincare. I thought food grade would be better. Maybe I was wrong?

 

[TARTARA]

USP

I don't know how it works in your country... !? But in general if it's a good - well known brand and it's "natural" or "food grade" or both... you suppose to be fine, i never had any problems with any brands but always from good stores ! Just my opinion and my experience so far... !

 

[Bunbun]

Ok. Idk, it's such a weird situation to me. I did research, and used a ejuice calculator to double check. I saw lots of people online say they use Loranns. Maybe it's because I wasn't making juice from scratch? Maybe I should've let it steep? Just throwing things out there. May forever be a mystery. I appreciate you tho, thank you

 

[TARTARA]

Yeah, it's wierd... !?

Usually we should let them a few days or a week, so that all ingredients are homogenized all together... !? (it depends from the ingredients, some of them they need even a little bit more time... !?)

 

[Bunbun]

That's gotta be it. Shaking it wasn't enough, and it instantly fried my coil. I vaped on the same coil a couple more days. Changed it yesterday and it was all black and gross. I got a new juice as well in a 3 nic that I'm now using. So maybe I'll try again with the 6 nic and vg, let it sit a week or two, see what happens. I can't let this discourage me bc I do want to start making my own, and from what I gather that can also be a little tricky.

 

[TARTARA]

Yes, the best way i think it's to do your own "experiments" on your gear - setup, and on your e-liquids... following some general lines as a guide of course... !

For example :

The DIY e-liquids usually are more clear - cleen, so they don't defect the coil so much... !?
And sometimes the coils (handmade or pre-made from factory) it happens to not working properly... !?

I mean that anything can happened on any given moment... so i think is better to have a few options as a backup... !

Last night i built up 5 of my RTAs... so everything is perfect and works perfectly... but also i have a few simple atomizers with simple pre-made coils heads... so i have backups on my backups and im good to go on any situation... !
With my e-liquids, i usually make my own, some simple ones not anything special... but i always i have a good amount ready for use, and some others ready to make if i need to, and plus some pre-mixed ones for the factory... !
And off course the same thing goes with my mods and their battaries...!
I think you can get my point of view... !?

 

[Bunbun]

That's good to know ab the diy juice, I prefer mine to be as clear as possible bc I'm convinced the darker juices wreck coils faster. Idk why, it's just seemed to have been my experience. And I've definitely gotten a dud factory coil before, lasted 2-3 days. Annoying. Mass production tho. I definitely want to have backups, which is a big reason why I want to make my own juice, and possibly coils. It being cheaper that way too, of course. Money wise I just couldn't this time so I thought I'd try the vg. I'll keep at it. I know it can be fun once you know what ur doing, you just gotta get through the frustration of learning through trial and error first, lol! Alright, it's bedtime for me, but I'll check back in tmrw. Thanks again for your help, I appreciate it.

 

[TARTARA]

Nothing at all man, isn't that difficult that you probably think of, with a few steps and a little bit of patience you will be just fine, and latter on you can do you own adjustments on what you like the most, plus the pleasure that you have made your own builds... !
Have a good one !

 

[Z-Lee]

Hello and welcome! Hopefully you figured this one out. I also wouldn't go with non-USP grade VG. Hopefully your lungs aren't on fire.