What are your Vaping Pet Hates ;)

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John D in CT

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Hahahahahaha, good one', and i love your son! i just love him!

Thanks - I love him too - so much it's crazy! He's the sweetest, smartest, and cutest dog I've ever known ....

That first picture is his "Hey - are you lookin' at me" expression, like DeNiro in "Taxi Driver". :)

The second is kind of a "Are we there yet, Dad?" look, and the third is around Christmastime so he's got his green coat and jingle bells on.

And he just looks sad, but he's not. That's just his natural expression, no matter what the occasion. I call him "little poker face", because he'd make a GREAT poker player. Royal flush? Pair a' nuthin'? No way to tell. :)

And kinda funny - I was baggin' on "Personal Vaporizer" before I scrolled up and noticed that you had just done the same thing. Yeah, "vaporizer" is bad enough, but "Personal", too? Am I wearing "personal underwear"? Do I use a "personal toothbrush"? We do need some better terminology, but it's not as easy as it looks. I do wish we could get away from "E-Cigarette Forum", but that would be a really hard nut to crack.

Oh well, I'm just gonna have a nice vape and fuggedabouddit for now.

Cheers :)
 

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You've got my vote! :) And if calling it x-xxxxxx causes you physical pain, I will do my best to never use the term. Around here, I pretty much just call it juice, but it's tougher out in the real world, where it needs to be differentiated from apple juice, orange juice, grapefruit juice ...... it's a toughie, but maybe there'll be a terminology breakthrough that will ease your suffering. Come on, people - we can do this! :)

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And this brings me squarely to "Personal Vaporizer". 'Nuff said about that. :p

PV = A+... but the thing is... The "i" branding is simply smart marketing... The companies who market like this are simply making sure that it is conveyed to their customers that their products are strictly built for X apple product in their iLine... which has been depreciated to the iPod, iPhone, and iPad... The iMac was simply named that because of the sleek resemblance it has to the ipod/phone/pad... Notice none of apple's other products are iProducts...

e-liquid is a legitimate name in the real world, because just saying Liquid is like this:

Guy A: Hey Guy B whatcha drinking there?
Guy B: Liquid

or

Guy A: I need to top off the fluid in my car!
Guy B: Which fluid?
Guy A: I just told you, the fluid!
Guy B: But there are at least 6 different fluids it could be!
Guy A: But saying which kind of fluid it is just wrenches my nerves!

It just doesn't make sense. When in public talking to someone outside of the vaping community you could cause mass confusion, leading the person to believe that they could vape just any liquid that exists... HEY! I know, I bet radiator fluid would be a good vape!
 

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That dog is absolutely ADORABLE!!!

Thanks - yeah, he really is something ..... people freak out over him wherever I go, so it's not just me .... I need to get him an agent or something. :)

Here are a few more pics, then I promise I'll stop;

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"A woof too far" .............. "Chillin' " .............. "Reindog sighting"

He's only "gotten the muzzle" four times in six years, and only for a maximum of five minutes; now I only have to say "muzzle" and he simmers down. :) Notice the ear position; not a happy camper.:glare:

PV = A+... but the thing is... The "i" branding is simply smart marketing... The companies who market like this are simply making sure that it is conveyed to their customers that their products are strictly built for X apple product in their iLine... which has been depreciated to the iPod, iPhone, and iPad... The iMac was simply named that because of the sleek resemblance it has to the ipod/phone/pad... Notice none of apple's other products are iProducts...

e-liquid is a legitimate name in the real world ....

...... When in public talking to someone outside of the vaping community you could cause mass confusion, leading the person to believe that they could vape just any liquid that exists... HEY! I know, I bet radiator fluid would be a good vape!

Yeah, iGuess .... :) .... still seems that we could use something a little cooler than e-liquid though ... maybe it will come as time passes, and something suggests itself that is as succinct and distinctive as "beer", "wine", "coffee", or "tea". (e-Tea"?) Naaaah.

I give up for now, but I bet a nickel it won't be called [what it's called now] forever.
 
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Since the government has started using scare tactics on people about products and people it has become increasingly difficult to convince people to try new things, especially when it comes to something that might help them leave the evil stinkies!

I hate to burst your bubble, but there has never been a time in human history when a government didn't do that. It's not new. The "us vs. them" divide that's at the root of all of that [propaganda|brainwashing|marketing|whatever] is probably a large component of why governments formed in the first place, not the other way around.


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I have a degree in it (Applied Psychology, specialized in psychopharmacology, specifically drugs of abuse). And I lost a brother to ...... addiction. I feel your pain.

1. Doctors want your money, sure there are some honest docs out there still, and I appreciate the service they provide and hope that they live well and prosper, however this world has become so much about money that the majority of the time this isn't the case.. prepare to be over-prescribed!
Sadly, that's the case. Unfortunately, the reactionary "anti-overprescription" movement is gaining steam as well, and people are avoiding medications that they need. Giving Aderall (Amphetamine) to school children is a dangerous gamble, but when someone actually has ADD/ADHD, it makes a huge difference. The problem is a perfect storm of terrible educational policies culminating in a lot of bored kids that nurses send to family doctors (GPs or Pediatricians) who don't understand drugs or psychological disorders to save their life.

Some conditions can only be treated with medication. In a lot of them, the medication helps. But it's messing with brain chemistry that you can't perfectly understand and disorders that are impossible to diagnose absolutely. It's the equivalent of a gynecologist performing heart surgery. Yeah, they probably understand the theory, but they haven't practiced it or trained in it specifically.

3. TV = Government propaganda. The Government does not give a flying .... about the people here in the US, the government wants our money, period end of story... If this weren't the case tobacco and alcohol (the two biggest killers in the world) would be outlawed, and the stupid laws prohibiting something with medical benefits that has never caused a death EVER would be legal, and readily available... (That last statement also denotes how financially stupid our government is considering the sheer amount of money that could be made with taxes.)

That's not the whole story. The prohibition laws are based entirely on cultures: marginalizing or demonizing specific subsets of the population, usually for financial or racial reasons. Going into more specifics is convoluted because I don't want to get an infraction/suspension, but in short……

While it was made illegal in specific areas earlier, "The drug Mexicans do" was scheduled (controlled) partially because Mexicans would work for less money during the dust bowl era. The story about W.R. Hurst running a smear campaign against it are largely overstated, as that targeted other non-recreational uses of other parts of the plant.

"The drug that Black people do" was used to keep slaves working faster for longer hours for many years and entered mainstream use after the Civil War. About that time, fears spread about the potential for overdose as well as some cases of the drug being used to lure good, honest girls into a life of prostitution. A very similar story precipitated the restriction of "the '60s drug" and "the rave drug".

And that's where a lot of it comes from. It's all a means to marginalizing parts of the population, scapegoating "Them" for the sake of "Us", which–in many ways–is why governments exist. "Them" is scary. And if you can put a concrete face on it, identifying them by some obvious external trait or habit, "Them" quickly transforms into an enemy you can identify.

And the only way it's ever going to change is when "Us" changes viewpoints.

The "i" branding is simply smart marketing... The companies who market like this are simply making sure that it is conveyed to their customers that their products are strictly built for X apple product in their iLine

No, it's because it's cheaper to copy something that is easily recognizable but not copyrighted than to pay to license the built-for-i[Pod|Pad|Phone] sticker. They do it because the vast majority of people in marketing understand the point (brand identity) but can't do it to save their lives.

Pet peeve for today: forgetting my chap stick. My lips already had problems moisturizing themselves before I started vaping. Ouch.
 
I hate to burst your bubble, but there has never been a time in human history when a government didn't do that. It's not new. The "us vs. them" divide that's at the root of all of that [propaganda|brainwashing|marketing|whatever] is probably a large component of why governments formed in the first place, not the other way around.


I have a degree in it (Applied Psychology, specialized in psychopharmacology, specifically drugs of abuse). And I lost a brother to ...... addiction. I feel your pain.

Sadly, that's the case. Unfortunately, the reactionary "anti-overprescription" movement is gaining steam as well, and people are avoiding medications that they need. Giving Aderall (Amphetamine) to school children is a dangerous gamble, but when someone actually has ADD/ADHD, it makes a huge difference. The problem is a perfect storm of terrible educational policies culminating in a lot of bored kids that nurses send to family doctors (GPs or Pediatricians) who don't understand drugs or psychological disorders to save their life.

Some conditions can only be treated with medication. In a lot of them, the medication helps. But it's messing with brain chemistry that you can't perfectly understand and disorders that are impossible to diagnose absolutely. It's the equivalent of a gynecologist performing heart surgery. Yeah, they probably understand the theory, but they haven't practiced it or trained in it specifically.



That's not the whole story. The prohibition laws are based entirely on cultures: marginalizing or demonizing specific subsets of the population, usually for financial or racial reasons. Going into more specifics is convoluted because I don't want to get an infraction/suspension, but in short……

While it was made illegal in specific areas earlier, "The drug Mexicans do" was scheduled (controlled) partially because Mexicans would work for less money during the dust bowl era. The story about W.R. Hurst running a smear campaign against it are largely overstated, as that targeted other non-recreational uses of other parts of the plant.

"The drug that Black people do" was used to keep slaves working faster for longer hours for many years and entered mainstream use after the Civil War. About that time, fears spread about the potential for overdose as well as some cases of the drug being used to lure good, honest girls into a life of prostitution. A very similar story precipitated the restriction of "the '60s drug" and "the rave drug".

And that's where a lot of it comes from. It's all a means to marginalizing parts of the population, scapegoating "Them" for the sake of "Us", which–in many ways–is why governments exist. "Them" is scary. And if you can put a concrete face on it, identifying them by some obvious external trait or habit, "Them" quickly transforms into an enemy you can identify.

And the only way it's ever going to change is when "Us" changes viewpoints.



No, it's because it's cheaper to copy something that is easily recognizable but not copyrighted than to pay to license the built-for-i[Pod|Pad|Phone] sticker. They do it because the vast majority of people in marketing understand the point (brand identity) but can't do it to save their lives.

Pet peeve for today: forgetting my chap stick. My lips already had problems moisturizing themselves before I started vaping. Ouch.


=D you're very well informed, should you ever want to chat about these types of things send me a pm and ill give ya my email address or some other means of communication. Not too often I can find someone with such a deep understanding of such topics to chat with and complain about the world with! :vapor:
 

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When my absolute favorite ejuice (Cotton Candy) suddenly tastes burnt and harsh. I have been vaping it for a few months now and the last two days it tastes different. I have tons of other ejuice, but this one is my favorite :(. This happened a few months ago to my previous number one... Maybe I am having burn-out lol...
 

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"A woof too far" .............. "Chillin' " .............. "Reindog sighting"
He's Too Cute!! So Solemn tho, looks like he's carrying a world of problems on this little shoulders!

Yeah, iGuess .... :) .... still seems that we could use something a little cooler than e-liquid though ... maybe it will come as time passes, and something suggests itself that is as succinct and distinctive as "beer", "wine", "coffee", or "tea". (e-Tea"?) Naaaah.

I give up for now, but I bet a nickel it won't be called [what it's called now] forever.
lol, Yaaah! No problems if we all spoke Zulu:
For an iphone one would say ee-eyephone,
e-cig: ee-eecig
Coffee: ee coffee
Tea: eeT,
Truck: eezuzu (Izuzu) :D

hehe... Nou ja jong, dis hoekom I am the grammar police :).
Wat bedoel jy met Police! it's The Grammar Polisie, dirr'ent you got no proud when you talks our taal, hey?:D ek Spiel maar net!:lol:
 

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Wat bedoel jy met Police! it's The Grammar Polisie, dirr'ent you got no proud when you talks our taal, hey?:D ek Spiel maar net!:lol:
Hahaha!!! The blind leading the blind! My new pet peeve :D. Spiel of speel? Haai nee liewe Heksie, ek praat mooi! In elk geval.... the last part of the sentence was in ENGLISH (soos nou) lol!
 
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I hate when my girlfriend fills up a brand new 3ml tank with a new juice she's never tried, just to find out she hates it. Then it sits there for all of eternity. I give her so much .... for it lol

Gee, sounds like she need a couple of atomizers to taste juice first lol.
 

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Pet Peeve:

When my absolute favorite ejuice (Cotton Candy) suddenly tastes burnt and harsh. I have been vaping it for a few months now and the last two days it tastes different. I have tons of other ejuice, but this one is my favorite :(. This happened a few months ago to my previous number one... Maybe I am having burn-out lol...

I've had that happen a few times. But if I put the same juice into a new CE3, it tastes fine. I'm thinking that certain juices are just more prone to atty clogging than others. For me it seems to happen a lot with my orange creme juices.
 

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I hate when my girlfriend fills up a brand new 3ml tank with a new juice she's never tried, just to find out she hates it. Then it sits there for all of eternity. I give her so much .... for it lol
Oh, I've done this, get all excited, it's gonna be great, take a drag, yuck! try again, just in case it might have been a mistake, double yuck! put to one side and forget, run out of juice, find a full tank, oh that's lucky:) place said tank on, nooooo!:facepalm:
Been caught a few times, lesson learnt tip juice out straight way;)
 

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Oh, I've done this, get all excited, it's gonna be great, take a drag, yuck! try again, just in case it might have been a mistake, double yuck! put to one side and forget, run out of juice, find a full tank, oh that's lucky:) place said tank on, nooooo!:facepalm:
Been caught a few times, lesson learnt tip juice out straight way;)

Really hatted it when I was using carto's......with the nova it's not so bad. With a genni tank even easier to fix....


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Really hatted it when I was using carto's......with the nova it's not so bad.

Agreed. But I've always kept an atty around just for that. I do drip at my desk occasionally, but mostly it's just to prevent that problem. And apparently there are local vape meets, so I can give/trade away the stuff I don't like without dealing with shipping.

New Pet Peeve: smokers being interested in trying vaping and being forced to say "well…these 2 tanks (VNs) are empty and these 2 desperately need to be cleaned before they'll taste like anything except boiling, almost-burnt gunk". Fortunately, I'll see them again tomorrow with freshly cleaned heads.

Newly annoying pet peeve: how long I waited, trying to get cartos to perform as well as my first couple boxes before I gave up and switched to VNs. I have a feeling that waiting so long to rebuild them is going to become a new one in a couple days.
 

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Agreed. But I've always kept an atty around just for that. I do drip at my desk occasionally, but mostly it's just to prevent that problem. And apparently there are local vape meets, so I can give/trade away the stuff I don't like without dealing with shipping.

New Pet Peeve: smokers being interested in trying vaping and being forced to say "well…these 2 tanks (VNs) are empty and these 2 desperately need to be cleaned before they'll taste like anything except boiling, almost-burnt gunk". Fortunately, I'll see them again tomorrow with freshly cleaned heads.

Newly annoying pet peeve: how long I waited, trying to get cartos to perform as well as my first couple boxes before I gave up and switched to VNs. I have a feeling that waiting so long to rebuild them is going to become a new one in a couple days.

Totally agree that a good (stand-alone) atty is a great thing to have around for good, clean tastes of a new juice. I really like 306 bridgeless atty's because you can squeeze juice right into them better than into a 510 because of the little hole in the top, as opposed to the wide-open 510 top. That lets you try one flavor right after another since you can flush out the old flavor with the new one (into a bottle marked "???????" that maybe I'll try some day); makes it really fun to have a massive "tasting session", as I've done on occasion for hours on end. Very little carry-over of flavors between flushes.

On the Vivi Nova; I'm really looking forward to modifying and rebuilding them, because right out of the box, they work very, very well for me. I went an entire month on my very first atty head, and finally put in a new one after my vape started getting a little too sketchy. Huge difference with the new one of course, but the cool thing to me is that I was getting a perfectly accceptable vape for an entire month without screwing with a single thing; just fill it and vape. That's why I'm so excited about seeing just how much better they can be made to perform, which I understand is quite a bit.

Again, I'd like to post the link to the rebuild thread, and a link to a colossal thread on "safe" vs. "unsafe" wicking materials:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ystems/295410-vivi-nova-rebuild-tutorial.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/284030-wick-materials-safe-vs-dangerous.html

And in case anyone was wondering, I forgot to mention what manner of dog my little boy is - a question I get asked almost daily; his Mother is a Chihuahua who tips the scales at about 4 lbs., and his Dad we think is a Rat Terrier, a breed that I believe has some Whippet and Italian Greyhound in it. I think the genes from the last two breeds is what makes him so generally gentle and contemplative, and the Chihuahua and terrier is what makes him fearless and just plain nuts when the need arises. A great combination - kind of a cross between the Dalai Lama and Ghengis Khan, with the Buddhist genes predominating.

Dominic has a brother Frankie who lives with his Mother in upper New York State (there were only two in the litter), and I'd love to get them all together again for a reunion. I bet he'd remember them somewhat, and it would be really something to see.

OK, thanks for letting me wander a bit ... or "go south", as Meems put it. :)
 

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My 2.

People who ask if the e-cig is really helping me quit. I don't consider it a quit... it was a switch. I switched because I wanted the general act of smoking and the nicotine but wanted the health benefits as well. It's not something I'm planning to do for a month or two and stop. It's not the patch.

People who ask to try it. Uh... ew? I've let two people try mine. One is my mother. The other is a guy I work with who I've been friends with for so long that he's pretty much my brother. I had one other guy who tried it at my invitation, but didn't put his mouth on it. One guy just reached over the counter and stuck his mouth on it... I don't even know the guy's name! I had to throw the cartridge out! (I have a serious germ issue, so I had a hairy fit THEN I threw out the cartridge by handling it with six tissues)

Agreed. Gross! Even worse when they get all offended when you tell them no.
 
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