What are your Vaping Pet Hates ;)

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" ....no matter what the subject, someone is always going to be on the receiving end. It may sting a little, but much of it can be viewed as constructive criticism .....

Take it with a grain of salt. In the end we are all different, with differing opinions- and that is a beautiful thing".

I'd like it to be all constructive criticism, since the alternative seems to me to be that some of it is destructive criticism. Constructive criticism - that which is offered in kindness, and intended only to help - rather than tear down and attack - another, is just that kind of constructive criticism, and is more than warranted; it is arguably necessary, if one feels that the recipient will truly benefit from its offering.

We're all entitled to our opinions, but we're not entitled to our own facts. For example, someone is entitles to believe that no Americans have ever walked on the moon, but that person would, in fact, be wrong. The evidence to the contrary is simply overwhelming.

What is truly a "beautiful" thing is people helping others to be better people by kindly, lovingly, and non-judgmentally offering them help to be better, more informed people. I fail frequently at doing this well, but that is my goal, and when I fail, I make no excuses for it. No one but ourselves are in charge of what we do, and what we say.

I take a lot of criticism from people I meet for telling them about vaping, and encouraging them start doing it, along with smoking, and see which one they like better. I feel comfortable in doing it, and doing it gently and non-judgmentally, because I feel that my motives are pure and good, and because that's what life is all about for me; helping other people have better lives through science, logic, and reason, and having lots of laughs along the way. And vaping my face off, of course. :)
 

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Just the way I see it:
Everyone has something to gripe about- I don't care who you are. It doesn't lessen the feeling of community if the members can be open and honest- good or bad, right or wrong. I'm pretty sure every contributing member to this thread has been supportive of another member at one point or another- most on multiple occasions- and are only exercising their right to freedom of speech and opinion. I don't think anybody can deny that they enjoy a good gripe now and again, and no matter what the subject, someone is always going to be on the receiving end. It may sting a little, but much of it can be viewed as constructive criticism, especially views on those whom have chosen to make themselves public on the Internet (i.e. video reviews or commentary in general).
Consider music: you may enjoy Metallica. I think their music garbage. Some people don't like the way the singer looks or the bass player holds his guitar. Is that to say that those opposing opinions ruin the music community? No- it proves that there is diversity among said community, and that is what I would consider to be a healthy thing. Apply this theory to any community and the same logic stands.
Besides- I'm not really sure that ranting about other people ranting really qualifies as..... Well..... Not ranting. Take it with a grain of salt. In the end we are all different, with differing opinions- and that is a beautiful thing.

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A friend who won't give up the stinkies because he's sceptical about e-cigs always needles me about vaping. The latest thing he asked was 'Did you see the news reports about the e-cig that blew up in a man's face?'. Arrrgh. :mad:

I girl I work with said pretty much the same thing. She wont use the e-cig because it blew up in a guys face. Don't you worry that will happen to you. Hmmm I should have said don't you worry about dying of cancer. LOL
 

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I girl I work with said pretty much the same thing. She wont use the e-cig because it blew up in a guys face. Don't you worry that will happen to you. Hmmm I should have said don't you worry about dying of cancer. LOL

When I get that, I usually just tell him/her the details of the one story I managed to dig up of a guy who was using a flaky charger, stacking batteries in a home made mod, and had ditched a hot spring in favor of a normal spring because he blamed the hot spring for his batteries being ruined more than once.

Forgive me for an old white republican talking about rape, but if that story is true, he was asking for it.
 

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I girl I work with said pretty much the same thing. She wont use the e-cig because it blew up in a guys face. Don't you worry that will happen to you. Hmmm I should have said don't you worry about dying of cancer. LOL

You could always tell her that "you heard somewhere" that over 400,000 Americans die every year from smoking, and kindly suggest that she do the math.
 

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I heard a guy tell this other guy this one time about a friend he had who heard a guy with a provari was at an outdoor concert and the guy standing next to him said that his vaporizer got struck by lightning right when he was Putting it to his lips. So he would rather smoke cigs than carry around "a .......n lightnin' rod".
True story. I'm surprised you haven't heard it.
 

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Genesis atomizer tanks. After hours of fiddling to get it working right, I didn't think the performance was as spectacular as I was lead to believe. A good vape? Sure. Worth the time and effort? Not for me.
Come at me, ECF.

Have you used it since or did you get rid of it? I had a steep learning curve at first with my Zenesis, but once I got that right I prefer the pure flavor and the vapor production from that than anything else. I use my Volt X2s out and about and just got the itaste MVP (nicely made little PV with a 2600 Mah battery and USB output) for a knock around at work.... but as far as enjoying my flavors, mesh and wire wins for me. Having said that..... had I never tried it, I wouldn't miss it.

Ok, Ok, I finally have one...........People peeving about Reveiwers and reviews, if you don't like em, don't watch em. After all it is just a monumental "waste of time". Odin, I dislike this thread, it is so negative, really makes my blood boil sometimes. There are so many things to be happy about when it comes to vaping and it is a wonderful, caring community, I just do not see the appeal of finding every possible negative to rant against. Maybe it is just me though.

Nobody said they were unhappy with vaping. I LOVE vaping..... sometimes it's just good to be able to vent for a few minutes about that one little thing that annoys you.

BlkWolfMidnight every time I see your avatar I get this overwhelming, totally inexplicable urge to click it, thinking
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another PBusardo review.
I'm peeved I've become so conditioned to reviewers faces.
I must learn to be more like this.:D

LOL

My peeve of the day is the condensation that builds up in my drip tip and makes it sound like I'm frying bacon. I prefer a quiet vape.
 

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Ok, Ok, I finally have one...........People peeving about Reveiwers and reviews, if you don't like em, don't watch em. After all it is just a monumental "waste of time". Odin, I dislike this thread, it is so negative, really makes my blood boil sometimes. There are so many things to be happy about when it comes to vaping and it is a wonderful, caring community, I just do not see the appeal of finding every possible negative to rant against. Maybe it is just me though.

I'd just like to kindly and gently offer that any particular individual might have a "better" life if he or she were to realize (I think that only the "true" can be realized, and that one cannot "realize", for example, that the moon is made of cheddar cheese) that things are what they are, and things happen, and certain other homo sapiens will say or type x, y, or z, and that it is then up to us to determine/regulate the temperature of our blood. I think it can be realized that once we accept full responsibility for our feelings about things, and our responses to them (like name-calling, labelling, or judging the issuers of the sensory inputs to which we are exposed), our time on this planet will be more "enjoyable", both for ourselves, and for those whom we can allow to anger us if we're not careful, and whose lives can be negatively affected by the receipt of angry and judgmental sensory input that we all-too-often (in my subjective view) allow ourselves to say or do, ranging all the way from a dirty look to an "unkind" word to a punch in the nose.

The Dalai Lama on forgiveness:

Dalai Lama's tactic for developing forgiveness - YouTube (I consider Buddhism a philosophy, and not a religion, so I think this is "kosher" to link to).

"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind" - Mohandas K. "Mahatama" ("great soul") Gandhi

(Please bear in mind that I see no scientific evidence for the existence of a "soul" or "spirit" except as concepts contained in the neural network called "the human brain", and my use of the word "soul" is by no means an attempt to bring "religion" into this forum. I am in fact non-religious, and instead, a proponent of the use of science, logic, reason, and the scientific method as the only means of determining the real nature of things. If anyone reading this allows him or herself to become angry or offended by it, I ask your forgiveness. I think that if you had been conceived and born as I, and then had the same sensory inputs as I, that there is no force of nature at work that would be making you say, think, or do anything different, but now part of my sensory inputs could be someone telling me kindly, lovingly, and non-judgmentally just where I am going "wrong" by kindly asking everyone to please forgive one another and take full responsibility for your own actions, as is my goal to do for myself. Where I fail, or have failed, or will fail in the future to be anything but kind, loving, and forgiving, I of course ask for forgiveness, as I forgive anyone who has ever failed to do likewise).

Give Peace a Chance - John Lennon and Yoko Ono et al - John Lennon - Give Peace A Chance - YouTube
Blowin' in the Wind - Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, et al - Blowing in the wind - YouTube
The Word - The Beatles - The Beatles - The Word - YouTube
End of the Line - The Traveling Wilburys - The Beatles - The Word - YouTube
Forgiveness - Don Henley DON HENLEY [Eagles] - THE HEART OF THE MATTER - YouTube
Winds of Change - The Scorpions - Scorpions - Wind Of Change - YouTube
Sunday, Bloody Sunday - U2 - U2 - Sunday Bloody Sunday - YouTube
Happy Christmas - War is Over - John Lennon, Yoko Ono, et al - John Lennon - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) - YouTube
New Year's Day - U2 - U2 - New Year's Day LIVE - YouTube
What's So Funny 'bout Peace, Love, and Understanding - Nick Lowe - (What's So Funny Bout) Peace Love And Understanding-Nick Lowe Acoustic-Albert Hall - YouTube

Of course, if anyone is offended by my expressing the desire that we all forgive one another, I ask .... naturally ...... your forgiveness.

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Hmmm ... better add this, before Eric sees this post ....

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LMAO!!! :laugh:
 
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I guess you can call this a vaping pet hate since I've never seen it so prevalent on any forum as on this one. People quoting forum posts and adding their response above the quote. You're not replying to an email, you're posting on a forum. The quote goes above your text.

Oddish? You seem quite normal to me, at least judging by your avatar pic. :)

Seriously, you seem like one hell of an interesting guy, and I'd love to talk to you sometime. I dig the hell out of the entire Scandinavian region; you guys have the highest rate of atheism in the world, are the most socially progressive countries in the world, and Denmark and Sweden keep topping the surveys of the "most happy" countries in the world. And I have a very strong feeling that you are not nearly as tormented by inner demons as you're letting on in that pic, which I salute you for. Not many people have the inner courage to admit that the universe, this planet, and the people running around on it can be a little challenging to deal with without feeling the occasional need to make just such a face. Sometimes that's all you can do, in the face of sheer madness, amid what could be tranquility.

Oh yeah .... Pet Peeves .... lessee ......

Drip tip O-rings, procrastinating on ordering stuff so you run out of your good juices and end up vaping your schwag juices, and genocide.
 

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I guess you can call this a vaping pet hate since I've never seen it so prevalent on any forum as on this one. People quoting forum posts and adding their response above the quote. You're not replying to an email, you're posting on a forum. The quote goes above your text.

"Bottom posting" is correct for email as well. It makes it easier to read the conversation.

It's an old convention left over from usenet and the original email clients. But just like the invention of the terms "portrait" and "landscape" to mean "vertical" and "hoizontal", Microsoft completely ignored the real world when writing a piece of software and changed everybody's behaviors for the worse.
 

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Pet Peeve - That people like this guy - Dr. David A. Dawkins - can somehow have a world-wide reputation as a great teacher of wisdom and enlightenment, yet can somehow give this answer to the question - which I could not understand at first -

"How do you transcend the belief that smoking is bad?" -

To which he nearly incomprehensibly responds -

"You've been programmed by it. It's a heavy duty program. They demonize it".

Dr David R. Hawkins on smoking - YouTube

"2012 Update: David Hawkins passed away on September 19, 2012 at the age of 85. His was a long life of service".

David Hawkins: spiritual teacher

Maybe from lung cancer?

If someone can explain this to me, I'm all ears. TIA, and vape on.
 

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I believe his point was that dying of a disease, even a painful one, is not inherently bad. People only consider it so because of "heavy duty [programming]" to avoid pain and delay death ad infinitum.

The one thing in life you absolutely have to do is–eventually–die. And he apparently thought that smoking was enough of a benefit to his life that it was worth it potentially being shorter.

Not wanting to die "right now" is animal. Wanting to live forever is social and depends a lot on your upbringing/religion/etc..

I used to justify smoking a similar way, before I realized that vaping could actually be good. Honestly, "living longer" isn't on my list of reasons to vape. If it were, it'd take a distant back seat to smelling better, running/cycling better, increased sex drive & performance, better flavors, more geekery, and not having to go outside all the time.

Now, "they" just have to invent one that actually looks as good as a lightly crumpled pack of lucky strikes, and we'll be in serious business……but for now, my Provari and my Twists look plenty good enough.

New pet peeve: only having 2 18490s and wanting a 3rd. I don't really need a 3rd. One will last me just about all day. It just seems weird that my charger is constantly half-full.
 
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1 you tube video's where they don't even INHALE the vape and try to show off how big the cloud is.... "they think we're stupid?"
2 People asking me when i'm going to wean down the nicotine and totally stop vaping. "I have NO INTENTION of stopping. I LIKE Vaping and it's a free country (at least for the time being)."
3 People posting insisting that the mod they use is the very best and the ONLY one every one should use. There are a million types of cars on the road because not everyone likes the same thing.... "open your mind bonzo."
4 People that refuse to believe that vaping is healthier than smoking even when presented with all the literature and study results proving otherwise... "bias much?"
 

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mostapha has once again hit one out of the park, and I believe it's still going.

I'm feeling more than a little obtuse for not realizing the higher meaning of what seemed at first an utterly absurd notion; that if one enjoys smoking cigarettes, but just might happen to not know, or accept, that there is in fact an even more enjoyable alternative, that it might in fact be illogical not to smoke, if (and since) that is what you enjoy doing, in spite of the known consequences. That little bit of metaphysics just serves to make vaping all the more epicly world-changing. Even the now-mostly-exonerated Dr. Hawkins probably would have agreed that vaping is a more logical thing to do than cigarette smoking, since it is simply, for most people - if not categorically - more enjoyable.

I am coming quickly to believe that one should take all necessary steps to maximize his or her enjoyment of this limited time we have on earth, especially considering my view that this is all there is, and that's fine with me - or had better be.

When or if concluding that "Hedonism" is in fact the most logical course, the consideration of and for others must obviously come into play. Isaac Asimov had his famous "Three Laws of Robotics":

1) A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2) A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3) A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

..... and it seems to me that one might rightly substitute the word "human" for "robot", and come up with some decent guidelines for someone who decides to simply engage in that which he or she finds most enjoyable.

Pentarth, I totally agree, and have absolutely no intention of eliminating nicotine from my pharmacological cornucopia, which now consists of caffeine, nicotine, alcohol (an average of about three "drinks" a week - I might have to consider upping that a bit, "for my stomach's sake", as the "Good Book" encourages to do (I never said I disagree with everything Christianity has to say)), and vitamins A, B- complex, C, D, E and a multi. The proven health benefits of nictone far outweigh, IMO, the moderate risks presented by slightly elevated heart rate and blood pressure.

pilotman, I also completely agree with you that the world needs better websites, and I'm about to create one; "soon enough", anyway. I like explaining things, and saving lives, so to me, it's a no-brainer. As an added bonus, I'll be able to convey as much information as I see fit.
 
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