What companies do you think WILL stay in the Market after August?
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Attn: lawmakers
I just dumped all my nic.
Don't tax me man!
Less than an hour ago, I pulled the trigger on 4 - 500ml of 100mg/ml Nude Nicotine Armor v2. They won't get
from me.
I live in Chicago. I called and emailed abt 75 vape stores in December 2015 for a "Great Chicago Vape-In" to discuss the coming FDA debacle. Do you know what I got for it? NOTHING.
I'm in this for myself now. If they go bankrupt, I feel sorry for smokers looking for a way out, not on ECF, but not the vape stores.
I remember your thread about it back then. What a gd disappointment.
Thank you for your support.
We here on ECF are like the folks in the sewers in Fahrenheit 451. We are the witnesses to the crimes being perpetuated on citizens making a bold choice for a healthier alternative.
Stick to your guns people. If you previously smoked, and you feel better, then for Gods sake, buy now. Don't go back to smoking. Do NOT accept defeat.
McLabia,
Check out Craving Vapor (locations in Austin & Cedar Park). They easily carry 25-30 premium juice lines in store.
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A gift Certificate is given at FT on refunds.
If you place Aspire products in your cart the charge will not go through, so you load up the cart with nonessential items. Cancel the order. Then buy Aspire items with the FT Cert.
@corn flakes hooked me up with an actual link to simply buy gift certificates on FT. I swear, I looked all over the site, and nowhere to be found. My last two orders I cancelled, I told them a gift certificate was OK, but they insisted it had to go back to my credit card. Some odd doings over there, but with the gift certificate, I can duck the Bitcoin thing for now.
I do have a feeling as regulations really do get turned up, Bitcoin will become the currency of choice for vape gear.
So... If you have a liter of nic base, and thirty empty 30ml bottles, can they consider that possession with intent to distribute?
I'm joking, kind of.
I'm joking, kind of.
Only if you just plain didn't spot the plainclothes cop in the park before the exchange. And if you didn't it's your own fault.
I pay about 6-8 $ for a 24 oz box of flour, 5-6$ for a 1/2 size loaf of bread. I have to read every ingredient on unfamiliar items to see if I can use them, and sometimes that is not enough. I was absolutely devastated when I go my diagnosis, and realized just how tough of a life change it would be. I cannot eat out, as I really cannot afford to deal with the possibility of cross contamination in a restaurant due to ignorance or carelessness. I worked in the food prep industry for many years, as a cook, and as a server, and this is not intended as a slight in any way, I just know from the inside how things work in commercial food environments.
Sorry for the OT rant, but whenever I see someone bashing gluten free, and I am not talking about you Yiana
it kind of strikes a nerve. Lucky for us few that there is such a fad, because without it there would not be the diversity of products that came onto market to satisfy the demand for us that really need it. It's a really serious disease, myself, I was suffering from malnutrition due to a severely damaged small intestine that could not absorb any of the nutrients that I was consuming in a mostly from scratch well rounded diet. I started shedding pounds and there was no explanation as to why...
Between PA, UT, IN, WA, and AR it's starting to feel like a slow motion freight train wreck is happening and won't stop until all 50 join the onslaught. Will any State go easy and prove that "vape friendly" is even possible? We are collectively watching a slow motion epic train wreck. It's pretty repulsive.
I',m looking at it like we are just seeing the opening salvos of the full on Blitzkrieg that is headed our way, billions of dollars have been diverted from the biggest money game in town, and all of the players at the table are unhappy about that. BT, and BPand BG have massive amounts of money to grease the wheels, and I am sure a lot of key pockets were filled to achieve their agenda. They are in it for the long game, and they know how to win it. I think 2016 is going to be a very depressing year to watch as a vaper.
The only good thing about gluten free becoming popular among regular folks is the increased availability of choices at the supermarket, so a little less guesswork.I pay about 6-8 $ for a 24 oz box of flour, 5-6$ for a 1/2 size loaf of bread. I have to read every ingredient on unfamiliar items to see if I can use them, and sometimes that is not enough. I was absolutely devastated when I go my diagnosis, and realized just how tough of a life change it would be. I cannot eat out, as I really cannot afford to deal with the possibility of cross contamination in a restaurant due to ignorance or carelessness. I worked in the food prep industry for many years, as a cook, and as a server, and this is not intended as a slight in any way, I just know from the inside how things work in commercial food environments.
Sorry for the OT rant, but whenever I see someone bashing gluten free, and I am not talking about you Yiana
My daughter suffers from Celiac disease as well and it took years before it was diagnosed. Now because gluten free has a fad stigma some people don't take her seriously. It is definitely a challenge to function with this disease out and about in the world. As her dad, I try not to get angry when people joke about gluten free, but I don't always succeed.
I find this a somewhat ironic reversal, as when I started vaping people were always assuming it was a wax pen. That's legal now and it's vaping they're cracking down on. 2016...
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Lucky you got diagnosed, so many people have this and in this day and age it's amazing how many doctors don't immediately test people who are having gastro problems.........but they don't. Been there done that.
I don't eat gluten because it seriously makes my arthritis worse. I shop the asian markets and they have a ton of rice products. I make pie crust from cooked rice. It's great!
But you are right it's nice to see more products on the shelf.
I have Alpha Gal Allergy now from a chigger bite, so I can't have any mammal meat. This was a little harder for me than eating gluten free the latter I found pretty easy but I'm not much of a bread/dessert/pasta eater and never was..
Most of the cultures have some kind of "bread". I eat 100% corn tortillas and also make a lot of flat breads and Naan flat breads w/out gluten in anon stick pan. There are so many "flours" now like bean, almond, rice, etc.
Sometimes I order bread by the case from a special bakery in florida. No gluten and no yeast or sugar, and it's light and airy and doesn't taste like cardboard. I get a case (it comes frozen) and split with my neighbor. NAMASTE also makes fantastic mixes to make muffins........I make a batch every weekwith chopped up apples, but they also have pancake flour etc. all gluten free.
(as for comments of others......I really don't care about people who make fun of people who either WANT to eat carefully, or HAVE to eat carefully. Most everyone who has commented to me just eat whatever they want including tons of standard american processed food, snacks, and restaurant food........and in my age group, people who are doing this are NOT in good shape. They are all rather un-well too, and most are pretty seriously overweight by at least 20 pounds, most overweight by about 50 pounds and they have no vitality.) Let them make whatever comments they want
They are siimilar to smokers who make fun of vapers.
Your feelings are on the money. The FDA, Big Tobacco & Big Pharma did not roll up on us with water pistols. They have deep pockets and paid their sophisticated guerrillas quite well to do their homework for them before launching the assault. I'm confident they're paying them to continue on, especially in light of the lawsuits that have been filed against the FDA.
The unholy triumvirate is not messing around and won't be giving up without a fight, so yes, their fangs are out, and you wouldn't be paranoid to bet that their renfields are everywhere we are. With that in mind, our discretion is going to benefit us greatly. So, if you're stockpiling for reasons other than your own and/or your family's personal use, I'd say this would be the last place to boast about it.
If you're stockpiling for your personal use though, please keep talking about it in detail until the 11th hour because I'm late to the self preservation DIY party! I've learned a lot here and I feel as though I'm almost where I need to be (Thank you ECF peeps, I couldn't have done this without you).
Back on topic: there's a handful of e-liquid sources I believe will have the ability to withstand the storm, but I want to finish catching up on this thread before babbling on about them. Or, maybe I should just take my own good advice and keep my lips zipped in order to divert the spotlight away from them.
One more off topic gluten post:
I try and avoid as much wheat/gluten as I can myself (not because I have to, I just don't think it's a healthy thing to eat a lot of) and here are a couple of bread options you might not be aware of:
Paleo Bread™ By The Julian Bakery
breads - Gluten-Free
The first one I bought when I was trying the paleo thing and enjoyed it but it is not cheap ($9/loaf iirc) . They make it fresh, ship it 2 day air, then it must be frozen for long term storage and refrigerated for the loaf you are eating. I could also buy it frozen at some local health food stores at a significant mark up vs ordering direct.
The 2nd I can find at the local Krogers for half the price of the former. It is vacuum sealed and has great shelf life with no preservatives. Once opened it has to be refrigerated to last for a week or so, if kept on the shelf after opening it you only get a few days from it.
If you make breads yourself and do lots of other cooking/baking then Bob's Red Mill has lots of great GF ingredients.
I pay about 6-8 $ for a 24 oz box of flour, 5-6$ for a 1/2 size loaf of bread. I have to read every ingredient on unfamiliar items to see if I can use them, and sometimes that is not enough. I was absolutely devastated when I go my diagnosis, and realized just how tough of a life change it would be. I cannot eat out, as I really cannot afford to deal with the possibility of cross contamination in a restaurant due to ignorance or carelessness. I worked in the food prep industry for many years, as a cook, and as a server, and this is not intended as a slight in any way, I just know from the inside how things work in commercial food environments.
Sorry for the OT rant, but whenever I see someone bashing gluten free, and I am not talking about you Yiana
I have been surprised just how many more options there are. I just hate that it is so much more expensive and we know why.
As a former server I was surpised how many people could not have gluten. My boss was really cool and ended up getting gluten free dough for our gourmet pizzas. I was also surprised when someone asked at the various places I worked that had no idea if something had gluten in it. They the few places I worked would shrug and say maybe or I don't know it should be fine. It made me mad because it is a big deal and I was not going to serve someone something that even had the possibility of having it. I told my customers that as well.
I was just reading something the other day not on here where a few people who were totally ignorant as hell about celiac and were like suck it up. It can be done in moderation. Ugh!
My daughter is gluten intolerable but does not have celiac. I asked her doctor if I should put her on a gluten free doctor and she was like well, I guess. I did it and it really helped her. Now that she is on her own she doesn't always adhere to it and she does pay for it. She gets so miserable.
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