What does your doctor say?
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My doctor was thrilled. I gave him some of the good medical information on vaping. He has no problem with me vaping in his office. He now suggests vaping to his patients who still smoke.
I would suggest you print out some of the information from the CASAA web site, especially the writings of Dr Seigal from Boston University School of Public Health to give to your doctor.
Here is just a small sample of what Dr Seigal has stated through his study and analysis on vaping. This is in response to a Utah public health official who has no clue what she is talking about:
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/02/utah-health-official-argues-for-ban-on.html
I would suggest you print out some of the information from the CASAA web site, especially the writings of Dr Seigal from Boston University School of Public Health to give to your doctor.
Here is just a small sample of what Dr Seigal has stated through his study and analysis on vaping. This is in response to a Utah public health official who has no clue what she is talking about:
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/02/utah-health-official-argues-for-ban-on.html
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I decided to go see my pulmonary doctor here recently, since it has been about 8 years...
I told her that I had recently quit smoking and decided to go with an ecig, since it seemed quite easy to switch (and it was way too easy!)
I got a big thumbs up, and a "Good! As long as you arent smoking!"
It has been 3 weeks to the day for me, and i am feeling/breathing WAAAAAAAY better!
Just as a side note, you should never be afraid to tell your doctor ANYTHING! They are where they are to help you!
I told her that I had recently quit smoking and decided to go with an ecig, since it seemed quite easy to switch (and it was way too easy!)
I got a big thumbs up, and a "Good! As long as you arent smoking!"
It has been 3 weeks to the day for me, and i am feeling/breathing WAAAAAAAY better!
Just as a side note, you should never be afraid to tell your doctor ANYTHING! They are where they are to help you!
Good info there Wv! Never thought of printing out CASSA info for my doc's! I have given them links to here and a few other places.
3 weeks! Good for you Chew! Wait until you hit a year smoke free..........breathing will continue to improve!
Wiz!
Good info there Wv! Never thought of printing out CASSA info for my doc's! I have given them links to here and a few other places...............
Yeah, a doctor is not going to want to wade through all the "stuff" on ECF from just plain ole people who vape. I would give them information from people like Dr Seigal and Bill Godshaw, etc who look at vaping from a Harm Reduction standpoint.
Telling your doctor is a good thing. Most are educated about ecigs and the ones who react negatively haven't read up on it. Mine had heard of ecigs but had never seen one. I showed him mine and he was interested. I asked him if he minded if I demonstrated it. He said, "Sure, go ahead." I vaped a heavy hit of RY4 and blew it in his general direction (in the examination room). I asked him if he smelled smoke and he said, "No, I don't. I can't detect much of anything ... certainly not smoke".
We talked about ecigs for a couple of minutes and I gave him some information I printed. He said he would check into ecigs. Two weeks later, he had a display with pamphlets in his waiting room for ecigs as a recommendation for smokers who wish to quit using a safer alternative.
He's still after me to get rid of the several cigs I still smoke after a meal or with coffee. I'm down from 40-50 to just 6 or 6 a day.
We talked about ecigs for a couple of minutes and I gave him some information I printed. He said he would check into ecigs. Two weeks later, he had a display with pamphlets in his waiting room for ecigs as a recommendation for smokers who wish to quit using a safer alternative.
He's still after me to get rid of the several cigs I still smoke after a meal or with coffee. I'm down from 40-50 to just 6 or 6 a day.
My nurse practitioner is thrilled, her dad quit using an ecig. My gyno was happy as well. I work in a hospital and since I started vaping, have discovered a bunch of other employees that use ecigs too! So far, I've converted 6 friends and coworkers and every doc I've talked to says... go for it!! Hairball.. I love that you trade juices with your doc.. that's too funny!
I never saw a doctor but a nurse i saw once said its good to vape but they dont do it on the nhs because its to expensive for them apparently
Just thought I'd share.........I work in a hospital and I've been asking docs what they think. So far a GP thinks its no better than smoking (remind me not to go see her) her reasoning for this was because you are still getting nicotine......hmmmm. OK
An infectious disease doctor thought it was a great idea. Def. better than smoking. and a Psyiatrist (PT doctor) agreed.
Almost all of the nurses I work with think its great, some more than others. ALL of the smokers that i've shown have asked to try it . I've converted one by accident when I first started trying with a crappy gas station brand. She's still going strong and isn't interested in getting a better PV, but hasn't gone back to analogs so hey whatever works.
An infectious disease doctor thought it was a great idea. Def. better than smoking. and a Psyiatrist (PT doctor) agreed.
Almost all of the nurses I work with think its great, some more than others. ALL of the smokers that i've shown have asked to try it . I've converted one by accident when I first started trying with a crappy gas station brand. She's still going strong and isn't interested in getting a better PV, but hasn't gone back to analogs so hey whatever works.
There are at last count I heard, about 70,000 members here on ECF. If everyone educates their doctor and the doctors talk it up at AMA meetings, think what they would do for publicity of ecigs. Heck, we might even become legitimate!
Good press helps wherever it can be generated.
Good press helps wherever it can be generated.
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I don't know.
Any reasonable person would agree.
Your doctor is most likely a reasonable person, but ... If you've ever met public health officials and healthcare administrators, and risk management officials - you may have noticed they are not reasonable persons. And, as nasty as it is, these folks are responsible for the 'official' position of the medical establishment and not your doctor.
Any reasonable person would agree.
Your doctor is most likely a reasonable person, but ... If you've ever met public health officials and healthcare administrators, and risk management officials - you may have noticed they are not reasonable persons. And, as nasty as it is, these folks are responsible for the 'official' position of the medical establishment and not your doctor.
ahh...so this is where the antifreeze ideas are coming from. i wondered...
I'm going to have to back up the truck for a minute...
I have never heard of these research reports showing diethylene glycol that were posted by the National Institute of Health.
Do you have a link to any of these?
We all know about the FDA finding approximately 1% diethylene glycol in one of the 18 samples they tested.
But I have never heard of anyone ever finding any diethylene glycol in any other juice either before or since then.
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My father is a doctor and supports my vaping habit, he wants more information but he is a cigar smoker and now interested in vaping. As a reasonable man, he can see the benefits.
I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that that's because it didn't happen. The NIH put out some propaganda echoing the results of the FDA study (and I use the term loosely), but they haven't conducted their own research with those findings.
That's because it has never happened. It's a one-off fluke that's been milked for all it's worth.
Even with the strictest rules and best practices, contamination occurs wherever particular chemicals congregate, to paraphrase an old cigarette brand motto.
I hate to break it to you, but ALL the products out there, ALL of them are subject to contamination in various degrees. The limits and regulations in terms of contamination for food, for instance, are ridiculous. On the other hand, medicines are held to a bit of a different standard. The question is, if we hold e-cigs to non-medication standards, would those contaminant levels be tolerable. I bet.
As for medications, there are frequent sudden shortages even for intravenous solution because they find all sorts of poisons in random batch testing. They then have to recall everything, trace the batch back to the plant, have the plant pass a new certification test or whatnot and then business as usual. It's unavoidable.
Go to Recalls, Market Withdrawals, & Safety Alerts and you will grasp the ubiquity of the problem. On the very first page, you'll see products marked USP and for injection that were found to not be sterile, or having junk floating in them! By the same token, they should try to ban all healthcare
And they go to the media fuming for some traces of stuff in a non-medical consumer product?!!!
My point is that OF COURSE you will find some contaminants in some e-juice if you look hard enough. It's the way it's portrayed, as if it were something specific to e-cigarettes, an intrinsic issue with them, that's the problem.
I hate to break it to you, but ALL the products out there, ALL of them are subject to contamination in various degrees. The limits and regulations in terms of contamination for food, for instance, are ridiculous. On the other hand, medicines are held to a bit of a different standard. The question is, if we hold e-cigs to non-medication standards, would those contaminant levels be tolerable. I bet.
As for medications, there are frequent sudden shortages even for intravenous solution because they find all sorts of poisons in random batch testing. They then have to recall everything, trace the batch back to the plant, have the plant pass a new certification test or whatnot and then business as usual. It's unavoidable.
Go to Recalls, Market Withdrawals, & Safety Alerts and you will grasp the ubiquity of the problem. On the very first page, you'll see products marked USP and for injection that were found to not be sterile, or having junk floating in them! By the same token, they should try to ban all healthcare
And they go to the media fuming for some traces of stuff in a non-medical consumer product?!!!
My point is that OF COURSE you will find some contaminants in some e-juice if you look hard enough. It's the way it's portrayed, as if it were something specific to e-cigarettes, an intrinsic issue with them, that's the problem.
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A few months ago, I mentioned to my doctor that I was considering e-cigs. He changed the subject and mentioned some drug that was supposed to give you bad dreams. I was surprised that he wasn't really very familiar with the concept of vaping as a smoking cessation method. He mentioned something about, "I think they even light up to simulate a real cigarette." Back then, I hadn't done my research, so I let the subject drop.
Next time I see my doctor, I'll set him straight and tell him what I know and how damn easy it is to give up smoking. And I should probably send him a bill.
Next time I see my doctor, I'll set him straight and tell him what I know and how damn easy it is to give up smoking. And I should probably send him a bill.
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