What don't you like about vaping?

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WattWick

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2) The mech mod people. I hate them. I understand that in 2011 it was probably necessary but today it is definitely not. A veteran who understands Ohm's law doesn't bother me so much, but it really chaps my ... when I see noobs running around with mech mods, stacked trustfire batteries, and running 0.0024 builds. Or even worse, running an atlantis on a hybrid top cap mod. (Can we say kaboom?). If I see someone with a mech mod, I stay away. Far, far away. I don't want their .... exploding in my face. Mech mods: they need to be retired to the vaping Smithsonian.

Mechs done right, with the right batteries - is a relatively safe practice. The wrong kind of battery is not safe no matter where you stick it.

These "noobs" are just as likely to stick a low discharge Trustfire in a gazillion-watt regulated mod. Maybe a handful of them at a time. Maybe at different charge states. The mod won't give one thought to whether it's a regulated or mech before pushing a weak battery past its limits. Nor will it stop a thermal runaway.

Battery safety is about knowledge, not belief. Not so much about regulated vs mech as some may believe. A decent regulated mod with decent electronics will prevent short circuits. Not much more. Amp limits may be an illusion of safety. The mod knows nothing about the limitations of your battery. Make sure you do. Protective circuits of dubious quality is just another point of failure. It's all situational. There is no "mech bad - regulated good".

Preaching the safety of regulated mods without further information may be counterproductive. Don't use "regulated mod" as a safety cushion. Learn your stuff.
 
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Fizzpop

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One major issue I have is finding ejuice that I will love. For starters there is no way to smell, taste, look or see the juice that you are buying. Best we can do is scourge the net for reviews, but even that really doesn't mean much since the taste of an ejuice varies wildly based on the persons personal taste, and the vast number of ways that juice is vaped.. sub ohm, different watts, different mod, older mod, different coils, RBA's, age of juice/how steeped was the juice? etc etc. So a lot of the time it is a shot in the dark.

Then the other issue with ordering juice online is when you have multiple options, such as nic level, PG/VG ratio, sweetener boost, etc etc. So unless you order a single juice flavor with every possible option (which would get grotesquely expensive very quickly), you are always left with that "I wonder if it could have been better (or vapable, if the juice is bad) if I chose that other option instead".

And of course you usually have to take a shot in the dark picking flavors (especially if you are new to vaping). I've been vaping on and off for several years now and am only just now starting to home in on what flavor combination I like best. But it literally took years and trial and error, and it doesn't help matters when there is a bazillion different juice vendors with a bazillion flavors each. And what makes it worse is how the flavor of a juice is greatly altered based on what options you choose or what hardware you are vaping it on, I may have already passed up my holy grail juice because I got a higher nic level and it ended up tasting harsh and nasty, thus I would never try it again. Or maybe I vaped that juice on a different mod that had a bad coil, thus making the juice taste nasty. There is any great number of ways a juices flavor can change drastically, and consistency is nowhere to be found in the vaping world.

After it is said and done I am usually several hundred dollars poorer and still no closer to finding a juice I will absolutely love. But I have to say though, over the years and after the thousands I have spent over those years, I am coming closer to figuring out my flavor profile. And I also learned that having a higher nic level will absolutely destroy the flavor and enjoyability of a juice, anything over 6mg and the juice starts to taste more burnt and is incredibly harsh on the throat. This is something new vapers really aren't told, and I wished I had known that years ago when I started getting into this hobby. As back then, and only up until my most recent attempt to get back into vaping, I was vaping mostly 18mg, sometimes higher (24mg) or sometimes lower. But I never went below 12mg, which was a huge mistake. The nic level is not just about how strong it is, but the flavor of a juice is drastically warped. I think all new vapers should default to 3mg or 6mg at most, then they could move up. This way they are able to experience an ejuices real flavor, so when they goto a higher nic level they will recognize that the nic really influences the flavor. If they just start off with a high nic level, they may never know why their juices are always so harsh and nasty tasting, and might just believe that it is the juice vendor they chose, so they try another but at the same nic level... and end up being disappointed again and again, time after time.

You should give DIY a go. Very easy to make small batches of juice and adjust accordingly. One of the pieces of advice I give new vapers is to try out a wide range of flavors. You may be surprised by what you like. I am personally very fond of floral and tea flavors, I am glad I tried them despite thinking they didn't sound that great.
 
errr there are quite a few things that is annoying when vaping:

Gurgling (getting E juice in your mouth)
Leakage :)@ :mad: :mad:)
Getting e juice on your hand when changing coil/rebuilding
Flavor changing (Why won't you - old flavor - get the F out of my atty? :( )
Cleaning up (who doesn't hate that?:p)

and yeah... waiting for vapemail. But okay that last just part of the game ;)
 
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