What eJuice makers are not telling us about PG and VG

[St.Cloud]

I'm hypoglycemic and I've always been curious as to why vaping sometimes causes spikes in my blood sugar and now I know why, this was almost shocking to me.


PG Propylene Glycol Nutrition Facts:




VG Vegetable GlycerinNutrition Fact


As you can see both PG and VG contain very high caloric contents, VG even has Fats and Cholesterol.

Can some of the experts please clarify as to how these specifically affect inhaling them, how much of it is absorb by our bodies along with Nicotine.

I just might quit vaping if I can't find a definitive answer for these, as with my condition can really risk being in the dark devoid of this information. Many thanks.

 

[Scarey]

You would really have to vape pretty heavily to get a full serving of either in a day.

 

[Ref Minor]

If you are drinking 100ml shots I am not surprised your blood sugar is spiking.

 

[St.Cloud]

If you are drinking 100ml shots I am not surprised your blood sugar is spiking.

Obviously I'm not drinking 100ml shots these are measurements taken from their Nutrition Facts but my blood sugar does spike and there seems to be now denying that they have high calorie contents I just want to know how much is actually absorbed. Hopefully someone can help me understand this.

 

[StarDose]

Well the PG was based on 100g which I can't see happening in a day and the vg was 5ml which is about the amount of liquid I vape in a day. The vg looks like it has very little in it and the 2.5ml of PG. I would vape would also be minimal. Perhaps the dehydrating effect of vaping has something to do with blood sugar?

 

[Sham66]

Yes those e-liquids have calories, but only in large amounts, I mean serving size 100 grams, that's like 100 ml worth of e-liquid.
That's only like 5 sugar calories per ml. Not to mention most of the vapor is breathed out.

Is it possible for someone to even get calories by using electronics cigarettes? I personally doubt it.

 

[Thunderball]

Really ?

Your probably not going to get that answer here unless there is some sort of an nutritional researcher here that could measure the absorption rate and the amount you vape.

I would quit if it was that much of a concern.

 

[Matnova1987]

I figure it would have to be actually ingested to have those figures be a factor. It would have to pass through your digestive system to have those calories absorbed. Not certain, just an educated guess.

Also hope this link helps clear some stuff up.

Can you gain calories by smelling foods?

 

[xtwosm0kesx]

From random diabete's forum:

'Food-grade vegetable glycerin is 99.7% pure, with the remaining 0.3% being water. It has a sweet taste, but is metabolized differently than sugar and does not raise blood sugar levels. Glycerin is used in foods marketed as being low in carbohydrates to keep them sweet and moist. It also does not contribute to bacterial tooth decay.'

This would explain why it doesnt list actual 'sugars' under the carbs tab on nutrition info.

Also its apparently documented that nicotine itself has a pretty marked effect on blood sugar levels or at least the 'markers' (?)

There have been several threads here on ECF discussing vaping and diabetes, and its effects on bs.

 

[NiNi]

So the amount of VG/PG is beyond what the normal vaper would vape in a day, and honestly speaking, I have lost weight vaping, weight that I really didn't need to loose, so I've actually had to increase my calorie and protein/carb intake so I don't loose any more.

 

[Debra_oh]

they both are pretty minimal in terms of calories. for the vg 22 calories per 5 ml is very low considering you might consume it over 2-10 hours.

570 calories per 100 grams is also very low unless you are drinking shots. A few of my juice bottles note a serving size as 2 drops or 0.1 g which is like 0.06 (apprx) calories per serving.

Nicotine is more likely to be causing your spike.

 

[Ref Minor]

Obviously I'm not drinking 100ml shots these are measurements taken from their Nutrition Facts but my blood sugar does spike and there seems to be now denying that they have high calorie contents I just want to know how much is actually absorbed. Hopefully someone can help me understand this.

If you vape a standard 3 mls a day of standard 80pg/20vg juice and actually retain 50% absorbed in the bloodstream then you will absorb approximately 5 calories of carbohydrate sugar over a day, that is the equivalent of eating half a sugar cube over the course of a day or a small potato.

I am presuming you cannot eat any root vegetables or bread or any flour based products due to your condition as the sugar content in even small portions of these is vastly in excess of the sugar content in your vaping?

 

[Lucky1127]

Before I started vaping I read as many articles and forums as I could I would not put anything in my body without knowing what it was Educate yourself

 

[Ryedan]

I'm hypoglycemic and I've always been curious as to why vaping sometimes causes spikes in my blood sugar and now I know why, this was almost shocking to me.

I'm not an expert.

However, it's pretty simple to figure this out for a worst case scenario. Take how much you vape in a day and figure out how much of each ingredient is in that. Assume 100% absorption into your body. Would this intake affect you?

 

[Ryedan]

If you vape a standard 3 mls a day of standard 80pg/20vg juice and actually retain 50% absorbed in the bloodstream then you will absorb approximately 5 calories of carbohydrate sugar over a day, that is the equivalent of eating half a sugar cube over the course of a day or a small potato.

I am presuming you cannot eat any root vegetables or bread or any flour based products due to your condition as the sugar content in even small portions of these is vastly in excess of the sugar content in your vaping?

More like 30 grams of potato. See here. That's not much potato over 24 hours.

 

[Jumpin' In...]

No offense meant to anyone who responded, but IMO the OP should talk to his/her personal physician about this and should not rely upon the opinions of strangers.

 

[Talyon]

To answer the Op actual thread name, I've dealt with several US, and Canadian eLiquid makers who clearly state what's in their liquids via the label on the bottle. So not all makers don't tell us.

There are also several absorption studies out there that u can google.

Hope you well be ok OP, Ty for sharing your concern. Always good to know.

 

[Ref Minor]

More like 30 grams of potato. See here. That's not much potato over 24 hours.

I played safe and only used the sugar content rather than the total carb content, I am not a nutritionalist or medic.

 

[fabricator4]

No offense meant to anyone who responded, but IMO the OP should talk to his/her personal physician about this and should not rely upon the opinions of strangers.

100% true, but the question was asked, and the answers are completely common sense. From the little reading I've done on the subject some diabetics have more trouble with nicotine than others. Consulting the doctor and reducing or cutting out the nicotine would appear to be the correct course. Hopefully St.Cloud has a doctor who is supportive of vaping instead of smoking and the correct balance can be found.

 

[Renzuli]

I have diabetes type II , and I don't know about before , but now that I'm only using 0 nicotine , I have not seen any spikes in my blood glucose levels . And as said in an earlier , if you have this many concerns , maybe it's best if you just stop vaping . Problem solved