What eJuice makers are not telling us about PG and VG

[entropy1049]

A sugar molecule is a sugar molecule...

It is indeed. But in terms relative to a diabetic, the glycemic index of glycerol is basically neutral (~0). Compared to that of say, glucose at 100 or sucrose ~65

 

[tj99959]

There is only one unit of measurement that matters, and that's what happens inside your body. IF you are Hypo, and PG or VG makes you spike ... then you need to think about doing something different.

 

[entropy1049]

Smokers with diabetes have been known for quite a while to have blood sugar spikes, that non-smokers with diabetes don't experience. Recent studies by Dr. Liu have shown that the nicotine is what is causing the blood sugar spikes. Here's a recent article:

"Nicotine appears to be the main culprit responsible for high blood sugar levels in smokers with diabetes, according to new research presented here at the annual meeting of the American Chemical Society.

Those constantly high blood sugar levels, in turn, increase the risk of serious diabetes complications such as heart attack, stroke, kidney failure, and nerve damage.

''If you have diabetes and if you are a smoker, you should be concerned about this," says Xiao-Chuan Liu, PhD, a researcher at California State Polytechnic University in Pomona, who spoke about his findings at a news conference Sunday.

In his laboratory study, he exposed human blood samples to nicotine. The nicotine raised the level of hemoglobin A1c, a measure of blood sugar control. The higher the nicotine dose, the more the A1c level rose.

For years, doctors have known that smokers who have diabetes tend to have poorer blood sugar control than nonsmokers with diabetes.

However, until Liu's study, he says, no one could say for sure which of the more than 4,000 chemicals in cigarette smoke was responsible."


Here's the full article from WebMD: Nicotine and Blood Sugar a Dangerous Combo

Good luck to you.

This. The problem OP is having with blood sugar spikes is the nicotine. Not the PG or VG. If OP cuts the nicotine from his juice, he may enjoy vaping without risks to his health.

 

[fairacre]

hi, like you i have lost weight. is it from vaping? i don't know. but i like it. i'll keep tabs on the weight through the next month and see what happens. interesting. fairacre

 

[Caridwen]

OP, welcome to the forum.

After you have 5 posts, I recommend you ask your question here.
Ask The Veterans

Best of luck.

 

[Thunderball]

It all makes sense now. E-cigs are a Santa-manufactured miracle!

THAT made me laugh out loud. Nothing makes me laugh out loud !!

 

[vital_beach]

I figure it would have to be actually ingested to have those figures be a factor. It would have to pass through your digestive system to have those calories absorbed. Not certain, just an educated guess.

Also hope this link helps clear some stuff up.

Can you gain calories by smelling foods?

yeah the lungs aren't really designed to take in carbs and calories.

the sweet taste could be tricking your brain to mess with your body in some way????

 

[twgbonehead]

OK. Deep breath.

1. You have mis-read the label for the VG. It says that VG contains 5g of carbs per 5 mL. It is basically 100% carbs (it has a caloric value of 4.32 cals/gram). It doesn't contain fats, cholesterol, vitamins, sodium, or any other nutrients; it's basically 100% carbs. This information is all correctly displayed on the label.

2. The label for the PG is wrong. PG is also 100% carbs, and therefore should state 100g of carbs per 100g of PG. (You can look it up on the internet if you don't believe me). PG has a slightly lower caloric value, about 4 cal/g. Nutritional labels on foods very frequently contain errors, although it's rarer for a "pure" substance (as compared to a cupcake, for example).

3. The only expert you need to consult with about your spikes is your physician, although several here have provided the useful information that there might be a connection between nicotine and spiking (which you should mention in case your doctor happens to be unaware of this).

Good luck and good health!

 

[business2091]

Hmm I think OP was not all that interested in vaping after all. Posted twice and didn't even to discuss further with people that provided the insights that he was seeking for?

 

[well.rested]

There's basically no way that your blood could absorb sugars across the tissue of the aveoli. It's a gas exchange and the cells on the "body" side are wired up to dump CO2 and absorb O2. The spikes you refer to are almost certainly due to the effects of the nicotine itself.



~well.rested

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

What ejuice makers are not telling us is that their liquids, when used with properly setup personal vaporizing systems, can contribute to a significant decline in the demand for tobacco products.

Shockingly, they also contribute to a significant decrease in demand for commercially marketed products like nicorette gum, nicotrol inhalers and benignly psychotropic drugs like Chantix.

Consequently, these evil e-juices and the devices they're used in threaten a multibillion dollar industry and lead to the propagation of scare stories and manufactured FUD.

Scary, scary stuff.

 

[AngiBe]

Don't know a lot about hypoglycemia but depending on what flavors your using, nic level, amount vaped/day and so forth, I would think there's a lot of variables causing this spike. The flavorings have, beyond VG/PG, sweeteners..those can contain a lot of carbs depending on the sweetener used.

The safest way to know 100% of what is in your juice is DIY...

 

[crxess]

Maybe we need a new sub-forum in the new members section - The Daily Troll Report.
A place to post unsubstantiated proof things are not what they really are.

8 pages - standard forum format
73 total post
Op post = 2 - including original post

You would think if someone actually had genuine concerns they would stick around and exchange as much information as possible to come to a logical conclusion.

 

[belinconu]

agreed... I had the same effect and after dropping the % of nic in my juices, all got back to normal.

Some people tend to dramatize a lot about the e-cigs. Would they have any interest in it not being legal since it doesn't bring enough income to some entities ?

 

[smitty67]

yep yep yep yep

 

[partyannimal]

So the amount of VG/PG is beyond what the normal vaper would vape in a day, and honestly speaking, I have lost weight vaping, weight that I really didn't need to loose, so I've actually had to increase my calorie and protein/carb intake so I don't loose any more.

Sweet! What are you vaping? I want that problem lol! I gained since quitting smoking. :/

 

[Compenstine]

This is why I DIY my juice, I know what I'm Vaping. Being Type 2 I can't afford to take chances.

 

[Decimate]

I'm on a diet so I fill my tank with water, gotta watch those empty calories.

 

[popboy]

All i know it is better then normal cogg

 

[popboy]

All i know it is better then normal cigg