what is the best delivery device for constant use?
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Here is another vote for the Smoktech single coil cartos (not flanged, XL size) and the IBTanked XL carto tank. I get about 18 ml through a Smoktech 2.0 ohm XL before it tightens up and needs replacement. That takes me about a week of constant use.
I prefer to punch my own cartos. It gives me more control of the vapor quality. A saturated carto produces the best flavor and best vapor production. The two always go together. Although I use unflavored juice keep in mind that even unflavored nic juice has a flavor.
Properly punched for the juice a carto tank will saturate nearly all of the carto filler material. I say nearly all because if I look at the top of the carto filler material during use with the tank the very top may not look fully saturated (no slushie appearance). However, adding three drops of liquid at this point nearly always produces flooding, so appearances can be deceiving in this case.
I prefer to punch my own cartos. It gives me more control of the vapor quality. A saturated carto produces the best flavor and best vapor production. The two always go together. Although I use unflavored juice keep in mind that even unflavored nic juice has a flavor.
Properly punched for the juice a carto tank will saturate nearly all of the carto filler material. I say nearly all because if I look at the top of the carto filler material during use with the tank the very top may not look fully saturated (no slushie appearance). However, adding three drops of liquid at this point nearly always produces flooding, so appearances can be deceiving in this case.
Whatever floats your boat is the best delivery device. Some folks like this, some folks like that, their just different not better or worse IMO.
I use drippers 99% of the time. My favorite is the A7, and when I'm not dripping I'm using a Reo which is the same as.
I use drippers 99% of the time. My favorite is the A7, and when I'm not dripping I'm using a Reo which is the same as.
Hmmm... That thing looks like a waste of half the cost of a Vapage device. Is it true that:
It falls apart a lot when you squeeze it?
WTH is up with the "upside down & squeeze" stuff? Can that thing even be used with attys without creating a disaster? It seems to be made only for cartos. If that's true that would so not be what I want. At all.
Just try to keep us - especially the OP - from blowing money on a "not good" thingee. Unless someone can convince me that thing will work with attys - upside down squeezing and all - I'm just gonna sit tight until the next Vapage sale. I have good, I just want to try a bottom feeder 'cause I like the atty experience.
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Feeding it while holding it upside down would probably be fine for cartomizers, where the polyfill will absorb the liquid when you feed it (unless it feeds into the center air tube). If you were using a dripping atty, turning it upside down and squeezing the bottle would result in high dry cleaning bills.
Thanks Plumes, I honestly didn't know about this device. I'm tapped out on spending for a while though (before the wife really gets mad), but this seems like a great deal. I'm going to research it a little more, maybe find some reviews etc.
Thinking about it, that kit comes with 5 cartos, so you are basically getting the mod for around $25...
No personal experience, but from what i've read, it doesn't.
Make sure you do your research ahead of time, spending the 80 bucks on a vmod to figure out "now i should get a REO," isn't saving money. I have to add, i just got a REO and no regrets what so ever.
Been using evods for several months. The trick is to get the wick just right. The pre-installed wicks are usually either to tightly packed which yields dry/burnt hits, or to loose which causes leaks. So I swap the installed wick with cotton cheese cloth. 15-16 threads doubled over for both, coil and flavor wick (for 50/50 juices). Couldn't be happier.
Good point my friend, I am not sure how that would work either - but it's interesting. I'm going to have to research that device as I've never heard of it before.
As for the VMOD, you do have to tilt it downwards to get the juice into the first chamber, then put it back upright, then squonk to force the juice from the 1st, into the 2nd chamber.
I've sqonked while having the VMOD tilted and it has flooded the atty, but I use these hybrid ones from Vapage that managed to contain most of the juice in the tube without making a juicy mess.
I can't see the point of using a liquid feed with a carto to be honest (I know some do) but for me the experience is the taste, flavor and vapor. It's just like dripping -why would I compromise that flavor by using something with batting?
Anyway, if I see a 50% off sale before you do, I'll PM ya, and no, sorry - no lendsies on the XL
To be honest, spending $160 on a REO and finding out liquid bottom feed is not for you is not saving money either.
The VMOD is a good device in its own right - I won't be getting a REO for a good while yet, but I don't see the VMOD as simply a stepping stone to a REO.
Some have VMODs and exclusively use them without making the step to a REO.
I'm sure glad I didn't buy my Reo first. DAMN, I'd probably only have one PV if I had
Point taken. Was mainly getting at avoid the Boge. On the flipside, if you get the REO and don't like it, you'll have no problem reselling it for a lot less loss then the vmod. I honestly looked at the vmod but my previous statement swayed me heavily toward the reo.
Don't want to come off as a nutty fanboy, just super happy with my purchase. Research, research, research! Then purchase with confidence.
This can be true. I've been lucky with my replacements not having any issues. (I also only vape high VG/100 VG stuff too.) But under any circumstances that itty bitty top wick is shot by the time you hit your first cleaning. It has to be replaced with something and a bit of a McGyver with the cheesecloth has worked for me too.
But removing the top wick altogether? In most cases - bad idea. Especially with the way the new 2 piece base & coil is designed for the T3s and MT3s. More doesn't always work in vaping. If you take the top wick out it can actually make things worse as the coils is getting more liquid that it can handle. That's when the vapor production actually goes down - not up. And you gets the gurglies and spitting up the tube into the mouthpiece.
Martha Stewart would cheesecloth her ProTank. Just sayin...
The other thing I see a lot of people trying - and failing - at is trying to drive these stock coils too hot, just because their APV can do it. Right now I have a T3s metering 2.0 ohms and I'm driving it at a whopping... 3.2 volts. It's a new coil and it's producing plenty of vapor. It doesn't need 4.5 volts - just because I can do it. Gack!
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That may be true. But a Vapage device on sale is still only 1/4 the cost of most Reo's. If a Vapage disappoints me for $45.00 I can live with it. But if a Reo underwhelms me for $200.00 I'm gonna be really, REALLY annoyed,
There's more users I've read so far that love - or at least like - their Vapage bottom feeders than consider them a waste. Even a few that like their Vapage XL's more than their Reo. Strange, but I read it on ECF so it must be true.
The Boge revolution gets a lot of bad wrap but its wrapped up in the bad publicity and reviews that the 1st edition got. There have been two revisions since the 1st edition and it was never able to recover as a device recognized as a viable option for those wanting to get into bottom feeder devices, which I believe is a shame. Dont get me wrong, I'd definitely support a skip strait to the Reo. But if someone wants to try bottom feeding, then the Vmod and the Boge are both viable options these days.
Must be true. Scared to think that if i had found the sale i would have gotten the VMod. It did take me a long time of staring at the price in the cart before i closed my eyes and clicked. It's all better than analogs!
I have to toodle around ECF and see if I can find out more. If the Revolution will only work with cartos that's a deal killer for me. (Have I told you lately that I hate cartos? lol)
P.S. And yes, I already know about the design limitations built into the Vapage stuff regarding choice of attys. And the way to get round that.
has anyone in here seen the Surge tank? I guess that could be an option if I want to spend a little more than I'm comfortable with but keep my darwin and provari... decisions decisions
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