What makes the Provari so good?

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lexalove

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I don't own a Provari but I'm an electrical engineer designing inverter drive based systems so I've looked into them from a technical point of view and compared it to the eVic that I own and use on a daily basis.

First of all having held a Provari I will say that build quality is the best I have seen on any "production" mod. I have held some "one-off" specials which you could argue are better but you pay for that kind of exclusivity.
This quality no doubt is why so many users swear to their reliability and robustness. As I've said I own and use an eVic and I've posted on here before that although I love it when it arrived with the standard battery tube it did feel quite cheap.

Ease of use isn't a strong point on the Provari, the menu is a little ambiguous due to the limitations of the 7 seg display used, but like everything you would get used to it in time. The lack of VW I think is a potential issue for less experienced vapers if they are swapping between devices - at least VW gets you in the right voltage ball park so you don't fry your coil. Once you get in your mind the relationship between coil resistance and voltage it no longer becomes and issue.

Now for me the biggest plus for the Provari, from a technical standpoint, is the chipset they use. ALL these regulated mods use some form of pulse width modulation together with DC-DC converter to be able to regulate the voltage output. Most lower to mid end mods all use a very similar chipset that has become known as the "33.3" referring to the frequency they switch at to output the selected voltage.
Not to get too technical the higher the switching frequency the better the current regulation and the more accurate the voltage output when expressed as a RMS value which is in effect the voltage the coil "sees". The eVic switches at around 100Hz but the Provari switches at around 800Hz. Again not to get too technical one important by product of a high switching frequency is heat. Assuming the voltage remains the same a coil will heat up more quickly if the switching frequency is higher. If you used the formula to calculate the energy output of a coil you would see that in effect the energy output is more with the higher RMS.
I've seen scope traces of the output from a Provari and the output is super smooth, if you didn't know better you would swear it was a pure DC voltage. The filtering circuit they use is superb - props to them. All this means that the RMS is closer to the actual set output you select, set 3V get 3V RMS is the ideal.

So what difference does it make? Well I guess ultimately we are trying to heat the coil to vaporise the ejuice and the more efficiently we do this the better. I've never vaped on a Provari so I can't tell but I've spoken to people and seen folks post on here that would swear on their mothers life they can taste the difference between say vaping on a Provari and a 33.3Hz device. From a mathematical standpoint there is undeniably a difference but being able to taste the difference is subjective.

The other thing about the Provari that I have seen is that unlike a mech mod whatever voltage you set it will output accurately until just before the point where the battery dies so your vape is constant all the way through.

So I can see why people go mad for these. Technically they have done a really good job of making a device to heat a coil in the most efficient way possible. For me the only drawbacks are the fact they are not really "modular" (battery tube and control is one piece) but that could be seen as an advantage being mechanically more robust and THE PRICE! I can appreciate the technology in the thing but I baulk at paying £200+ for a mod.

So that's my 2p worth from a more "neutral" viewpoint.
 
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    When you have a Provari in your hand you will understand.

    Are there other really great PV's? Sure. If I lived in Europe, for example, I probably wouldn't buy a Provari, there are other great choices that would be more local. Same goes for Asia. The thing is that here in the US the Provari has been the Gold Standard that all other VV PV's are measured by, and has been since there have been VV PV's.
     

    Baditude

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    Almost everything you'd want to know about the Provari is in this blog, including past ECF threads about why the Provari is "special".

    Why Provari?


    Mini Provari 2.jpg
     
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    Plumes.91

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    OK I've bookmarked spots to buy rings for the top of my provari before, but I always end up losing them. Where is the cheapest website to get a plain old brushed or polished aluminum ring to sit atop of my provari underneath a genesis atty? Bad, where did you get yours, if you don't mind me asking? I'll eventually have to get one when I order the 18500 extension tube, which i'm thinking will be my next order!
     

    Baditude

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    OK I've bookmarked spots to buy rings for the top of my provari before, but I always end up losing them. Where is the cheapest website to get a plain old brushed or polished aluminum ring to sit atop of my provari underneath a genesis atty? Bad, where did you get yours, if you don't mind me asking? I'll eventually have to get one when I order the 18500 extension tube, which i'm thinking will be my next order!

    Pro Rings for 2013

    I got mine from Korea (sotong or something), Bomb Vapor, and IBTanked. IBTanked is probably the best as it has two airholes, is stainless steel, $12.50, and should always be in stock. https://www.ibtanked.com/accessories/tool/ibtpro-22-stainless-steel-detail
     

    Vapeaholic

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    I have a Provari and a ZMax. I use both daily since I have 2 favorite juice favors and am too lazy to constantly change tanks.
    Performance wise the only difference I notice is the feel of the button when I fire them up. The zmax button clicks when pressed and the Provari has a "squishy" feel when pressed. That difference is however completely unimportant.
    I bought the Provari after the zmax because of all the hype about it. If I had it to do over again, I would have bought another zmax and used the $100 dollar difference on an RBA.
     

    DrillRX

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    The Vamo and the Provari are both very good devices.

    I think the difference in cost is simply this

    Provari = Made in USA.
    Vamo = Made in China.

    Provari = $10 Hr to employees to build (or probably more)
    Vamo = $2 Day to employees (or probably less)

    I think that speaks as to why the Provari is 5 times the cost of a comparitively good device.
     

    Dani8kt

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    I have been doing so much reading and learning in the last month since I started vaping. I currently use an Aspire ET-S (hope that is the right terminology) on an EVOD variable battery. I have the itch to get into a MOD and have been reading and watching the net like crazy. I had my eyes set on Provari and have been saving up. You guys just lit the candles on the cake and I can't wait to get it! Thank you all for your time and help to us newbies in this amazing new universe that is vaping.
     

    Plumes.91

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    A comparably good device? The Vamo is made of thin, light weight aluminum or very thin stainless steel, depending on which model version you purchase. The Provari is made of thick as a brick stainless steel. Also, the Provari's menu is less prone to problems in comparison to OLED screens. And 3 buttons is three times the mechanical failure rate of a one button design mod. & I would assume that the warehouse employees are making at least 15 to 20 dollars an hour. It can't be a particularly large operation and for them to have only a handful of employees would mean the employees would be highly specialized & risking their future on manufacturing a single device rather than working in a production warehouse learning tons of new things on the job. For this reason, I would think that the employees are being compensated highly in return for offering their time without building their repetoirs. On the other hand, the oil changers at PepBoys make 9.75 an hour and they aren't increasing their expertise either. So who knows. Its a screwed up workforce we're living in today. Either way,. the Provari isn't the same quality of the vamo. I've already pointed out why. If the Vamo were the same quality as the Provari, the people that manufacture the Vamo woudn't be selling them whole-sale for 20 dollars a piece. A 6 by 4 sheet of plywood from home depot costs 30 bucks right now. A sheet of pressed wood pulp... and they're selling vamos for the same price. That just screams quality control.
     
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    Razorback

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    For me it looks like provari is the iphone of mods, its good, but there are plenty of others that are good as well. For me i like my Evic. To tell you the truth, since i got an ego VV, im using it mostly of the day, as it is very portable.
    Having a provari is mean to be an "experience" much like with an iphone.

    ALso i gee Rha eyes on provari signature of users... maybe they get an entitlement to a secret cultist organization ? :) Dont know

    Perfectly put. :) I have a Provari and an eVic, and honestly, I prefer the eVic. But my Zombie edition Provari is pretty sweet looking.
     
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