What to start with?

[TheMike21]

Guys, I really want to go into temp control but I am a little bit overwhelmed and would love your advise.

Currently I use a Subtank mini on RBA mode at .5ohms at 33W. That's my fruit vape. For my Coffee vape I use a UD goblin over the subox mini at .4 or .3ohms also at 33W. My latest purchase was a Bellus that I run as a dual coil at .4 at 40w also on the subox.

So, those are my tanks and current habits. I like rebuilding and don't wish to go back to coils. I do know I need the burning of cotton to stop or at leat go down or my wife will kill me (I spend a lot of time wicking).

Because of the place where I live and my budget I have limited options.
IPV D2 75w
Istick TC 60w
Kbox Platinum TC 60w - I love it's looks but fear it's performance
Evic VTC Mini - With Tron or with Ego? Can't get it alone
Presa TC 75w - Wife wants one so she might steal it
Reulaux RX200 - It's available and within the price range BUT I will get a Koopor Plus (whenever the contest
ends, and the guy in charge sends it, and it gets here. It will take a while).

I would love your help and input, tips and advise.
Thank you

 

[TheMike21]

Anybody?

 

[J Wo]

I can not recommend any one temp control device. I have heard good things about most of the ones you have listed though. I do hope you enjoy your chosen vaporizer, and that you VAPE HAPPY

 

[TheMike21]

That's the problem, there is good notes about all of them except for the platinum (it's too new perhaps). Plus I have to balance stores, it's crazy, there is spreadsheets involved and everything

 

[iwriduan]

my personal experience with so-called tc device:

istick 40TC = very happy, running ti build coil in a subtank mini this little things just works (forced using ni mode, used with full caution when setting the temp). gave up my istick 40TC to a friend that wanted to quit analog and planned to go for istick 60TC (i believe it will perform well as its older bro) but got my hands on evic vtc mini instead.

evic vtc mini = very happy, running ti build coil in my previous subtank, a bit of learning curves here and there but it has been working flawlessly. yes there are some problem reported in this forum but cmiiw the satisfied buyer must be way more than the complained ones. and oh the firmware of this device is upgradable, it is something to count on.

cloupor mini plus 50w = just arrived today. this things, just like cloupor mini 30 watt i had previously, works for a noob like me. still running ti build coil in my previous and only subtank. plug out from my evic mini and just throw it on cloupor and been working good for the past couple hours

i have been using subtank mini since version 1, and for TC i only build my coil using ti wire (24 awg, 3mm ID, 6 wraps which ends up at 0.21 -0.22 ohm depending on my mood when coiling) and i am only vaping "dark" creamy nutty buttery liquid with high nic level. this subtank mini is very satisfying on delivering the flavor using my described setting, i don't do clouds anymore

so my suggestion is:

• pick a firmwre upgradable device, fw upgrade wont solve hardware issues but it is a piece of mind
• pick your device with enough warranty so you can try and fiddle with it and send it back for replacement if something does act funny
• pick a supplier or vapestore with good customer support
• be patience with your device and yourself, read the thread about your device and don't hesitate to ask questions, there are many supporting member in this great forum.

good luck

 

[BlueridgeDog]

Of those listed, the evic will be a great starter TC device. Put an Aromamizer on it and you will get lots of tc experience. In the long run you will want a better device, but we still have an evic in the rotation with several DNA200s in the mix.

 

[Whitaker2472]

I have 2 dna 200 and its hard to go back to anything else.

 

[jstrong]

Why is it everyone always tells a beginner to get a DNA 200? I just don't get it Everyone is on this DNA 200 craze and I still don't get it. Look at the failure rate on most of these devices thus far. I have had 3 DNA 200 devices (Reuleaux, VS, VT200) and all died within a month. I had 4 DNA 40's all glitched etc @Shigura will tell you how bad my DNA experience have been. My Yihi devices never one issue that's why I have 2 ML Classes coming. A beginner does not really need 200 watts for temp control or to mess around on Escribe since he is new to temp control. No need for him to get over his head. He needs a cheap device that works well to get him into the game.

Of the devices listed you could change the IPV D2 to the D3 that now does 80 watts and has step down. I have seen them for $38.00. It's a nice device that does Ni200 and Ti but doesn't have SS. If you need SS then the eVic VTC Mini and Presa will fit the bill. If I am picking any of those devices based on chips it would be the IPV since it has a Yihi. Only thing about IPV is finish issues depending on who you ask. I have not been impressed with the Joyetch chips on Temp Control.

If you need battery life the RX200 would be the best for battery life since it uses 3 18650's. If you don't chain vape any of those device will work good. I have a iStick 60W kit with the Melo 2 and it is a pretty good device. I like how the atomizer sits in the middle of the device.

 

[Plumes.91]

The Evic VTC mini is a great mod and there is no reason you would want a "better" device in the future. You may want a device with dual 18650 capability, sure, but you should be very happy with your Evic Mini for the forseeable future, it is no less capable and no less quality than any of the other devices you've listed. Joyetech is a dependable company and they've stepped UP their mod QUALITY game, substantially. The Evic VTC mini competes with the BEST TC mods out there today, and, with it's upgradable firmware, you have an insurance policy... As long as the Evic Mini stays Joye's premiere TC mod, updates will be made for the firmware, keeping it current. I'm sorry, but I just truly dislike seeing comments like "you'll want something better" lol, seems pretty ridiculous to me. It's one of the best devices on the market in it's class, and in my opinion, there isn't a whole lot of "better" mods out there, unless u want HIGH wattage... 75 watts is plenty for most vapers, though. I think you'd enjoy this mod thoroughly. The Subox Mini is another great mod, however, it limits you to 50 watts and is NOT firmware upgradable... I would definitely recommend the Evic Mini. A beautiful, functional, mod.

As far as TC goes, the Evic Mini has been getting relatively good reviews for TC vaping. & with upgradable firmware, how on earth could it fall behind? The Joyetech company can tweak the TC settings for each metal type and release downloadable upgrades.

 

[BlueridgeDog]

By "better" I mean more power, faster ramp up, programed pre-heat, multiple profiles etc. The evic will vape great and may be all you ever want.

 

[BigEgo]

If you don't mind TC that "sorta works but not really" then the VTC mini would be a good option. Otherwise go with one of the IPV's (D2 or D3) since they have Yihi chips in them.

 

[TheMike21]

Thanks guys, this is helping a lot. In terms of getting more power I will get a Koopor plus eventually and I'll be able to play with high power, if I like that then I'll get a DNA200 or something. For those who recommend Yihi over Joytech chip, is it a matter of durability, accuracy or consistency?

 

[KenD]

If you don't mind TC that "sorta works but not really" then the VTC mini would be a good option. Otherwise go with one of the IPV's (D2 or D3) since they have Yihi chips in them.

The Evic VTC Mini has worked perfectly for me and many others. I know you've had problems, but for the majority of users that's not the case (the Mini wouldn't be as popular as it is if that were the case).

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[retird]

The Evic would be a good started for TC. As you become accustomed to TC you then could move on to something like a DNA200 device (as your budget allows). Evov has the most sophisticated technology at this time. Having used Evolv Darwin, DNA12, 20, 30, 40, 25, and DNA200 without a single failure (except for a broken screen that I broke) over almost 5 year vape history using Evolv stuff, I still favor Evolv but continually research other options for something even "more better". I thought the SX Mini ML was going to be a significant step above the M class but was disappointed after a bit of research at how little it actually changed.

Good luck with your journey....

 

[BigEgo]

The Evic VTC Mini has worked perfectly for me and many others. I know you've had problems, but for the majority of users that's not the case (the Mini wouldn't be as popular as it is if that were the case).

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I don't own an Evic. I was merely going off the thermocouple test results that various reviewers have done. The VTC Mini is always well off the correct temperature. It might be possible to offset the TCR, but you'd need a thermocouple to do your own testing to get it right. I mean it does work, but it's just not accurate.

I just went ahead and bought a DNA-200 to be done with it. I am tired of spending $40 here and $50 there on mods that have inaccurate TC. The DNA-200 is truly a different experience. Far superior to any of the Chinese mods (including Yihi for now).

 

[TheMike21]

I've closed it down to the Evic VTC Mini, the IPVD2 and the Presa (I understand it's the same Evic chip, did the fix the step down?).
In terms of a DNA200, when I get there, it will probably be a Vaporshark or a Reuleaux (however you write this)

 

[KenD]

I don't own an Evic. I was merely going off the thermocouple test results that various reviewers have done. The VTC Mini is always well off the correct temperature. It might be possible to offset the TCR, but you'd need a thermocouple to do your own testing to get it right. I mean it does work, but it's just not accurate.

I just went ahead and bought a DNA-200 to be done with it. I am tired of spending $40 here and $50 there on mods that have inaccurate TC. The DNA-200 is truly a different experience. Far superior to any of the Chinese mods (including Yihi for now).

If you check Djlsb vapes' test of the Mini with the 3.0 firmware you'll see that it's incredibly accurate. Still, accuracy isn't everything, what matters more is consistency, which the Mini has.

Btw, the Mini also has adjustable tcr now. Hopefully the Reuleaux rx200 will get it soon as well.



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[KenD]

I've closed it down to the Evic VTC Mini, the IPVD2 and the Presa (I understand it's the same Evic chip, did the fix the step down?).
In terms of a DNA200, when I get there, it will probably be a Vaporshark or a Reuleaux (however you write this)

The Evic VTC Mini newer had problems with stepdown. The IPV D2 has that problem in wattage mode so you want the D3 instead, if you go for an IPV.

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[BigEgo]

If you check Djlsb vapes' test of the Mini with the 3.0 firmware you'll see that it's incredibly accurate. Still, accuracy isn't everything, what matters more is consistency, which the Mini has.

Btw, the Mini also has adjustable tcr now. Hopefully the Reuleaux rx200 will get it soon as well.



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Yeah but he just posted that today. I was going off his past review where he said the temp was off. Busardo found the same thing in his tests.

If they did indeed fix it with the new update, then that's good. If it is accurate now, then I would probably recommend it over the others because I like the design of it the most.

 

[TheMike21]

The Evic VTC Mini newer had problems with stepdown. The IPV D2 has that problem in wattage mode so you want the D3 instead, if you go for an IPV.

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IPV D3 is not an option unfortunately, not available where I'm at
I think it will be an evic. It's a pain as I said to figure this one out since a lot of people I read, hear and watch are divided but recommend both highly.

I thank everybody for their input and will keep waiting for a big tie breaker