what vaping model should i get for my son?

[motorcity57]

shocked?? yes, i suppose so. but as long as he is vaping 0 nic, why the concern?? is it any worse than those energy drinks he can buy in any store?? vendors are selling all these flavored juice's, kiwi, watermelon, tutti-fruti, cheese-cake, hawiian punch. wtf
no i'm not getting my kid a vaping device, but i was a teen-ager once as we all were, you know what goes on.
so i can see why some kind of regulation of the e-cigarette is going to be needed.

 

[wv2win]

Let's see, an energy drink cost a couple of bucks. To vape, you will have to shell out at least $50 just to start. I don't see the comparison. And as far as flavors are concerned, when I was checking out of Wal-Mart the other day, I saw three different flavors of Nicorette Gum along side the Orbits gum.

Are you not concerned that Nicorette Gum is trying to attract 10 years olds with their different flavored nicotine gum right there in the check out line with all the candy?????? And I saw no "you must be 18" on the box, either. What would happen if a 10 year old put 10 pieces of nicotine gum in their mouth at once on a dare?????

 

[Mufftrix]

I see your point! but don`t think many kid`s would take it up it to expensive ha-ha!

 

[sattec]

good post!

"i can see why some kind of regulation of the e-cigarette is going to be needed."

why pick on the e-cig industry, how about the parent? this needs to be taken care of in the home by the parent

 

[bri1270]

Deleted - I can't even bother responding to such a baiting thread.

 

[Corki2]

There are lots of thing available for purchase in stores that are geared towards kids. Does that mean I have to buy it for my kid? No way. I don't buy energy drinks for her either. The manufacturers and retailers don't care about my kid, but I do.

 

[DaMulta]

Well I started smoking at 14, and a pack a day by the time I was 15 years old.....

I wish I had one of these when I was a kid instead.

I know when I was a teen I did what I wanted, and my parents didn't know all the things I was doing..... They knew by 16yrs I was a full time smoker, because I just stopped hiding the fact of running around the side of the house to smoke.

Smoking was a lot cheaper then tho......

 

[gashin]

Nah you're trolling !

shocked?? yes, i suppose so. but as long as he is vaping 0 nic, why the concern?? is it any worse than those energy drinks he can buy in any store?? vendors are selling all these flavored juice's, kiwi, watermelon, tutti-fruti, cheese-cake, hawiian punch. wtf
no i'm not getting my kid a vaping device, but i was a teen-ager once as we all were, you know what goes on.
so i can see why some kind of regulation of the e-cigarette is going to be needed.

 

[Applejackson]

Dumb-de-dum-dum-dumb.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Title of thread changed for "to my 14 year old son" to "son" as no Supplier here advocates the sale for minors and we at ECF do not condone it either.

Sun

 

[motorcity57]

i'm just saying, we as vapers seem so against any kind of government regulation on these products we use, i was just making an analogy. just trying to promote some discussion.

yes i saw your post before you deleted it. sticks & stones buddy

 

[eplanet]

really, I vape because i am addicted to nicotine, I am down to 6mg and I dont see what allure this would have to children...The whole allure of anologs is because they know they are bad and that is attractive to teenagers...This is really a parents job...It is much cheaper for a kid to get a pack of anologs than an e-cig and the maintenance required is a turn off for them...Also the average e-smoker is in their 40's....jmo

 

[dedmonwakin]

Well, to be honest....

O'douls may be near alcohol free, but I won't be buying it for my children just because it is.

Maybe I'm influenced by what society has deemed "bad." But to me, purchasing an ecig with zero nic would be like saying it's okay if they really do choose to smoke. It's modeling a behavior in a child that a parent has pretty much gave permission to.

This is understood by many who recommend ecigs. This is not a solution for people to pick up the habit if they don't smoke, this is a safer option for those who do smoke.

So basically, it's like saying, "Okay child, I'm fine with you smoking zero nic ecig now, and when you get older, we'll talk about adding nicotine when your ready."

Same goes for the non-alcoholic beer. So, after getting home from work, I kick back with a cold beer for myself, I hand my son an O'Douls. Guess what? That may be a ritual he learns to remember, except, he's grown and buying real beer.

Of course, beer and E-cigs are not that comparable, it's the influence that a parent has that is. As a parent I know what is bad for my child and myself, and I don't care to be that kind of influence, whether condoned by society or not.

Just my opinion.

 

[Moonlighter]

shocked?? yes, i suppose so. but as long as he is vaping 0 nic, why the concern?? is it any worse than those energy drinks he can buy in any store?? vendors are selling all these flavored juice's, kiwi, watermelon, tutti-fruti, cheese-cake, hawiian punch. wtf
no i'm not getting my kid a vaping device, but i was a teen-ager once as we all were, you know what goes on.
so i can see why some kind of regulation of the e-cigarette is going to be needed.

Regulations are made and that seems to encourage the kids even more.
The way these devices are being advertised and marketed right now are to 18 year old and up SMOKERS. Just smokers.
Not kids or none smokers. They are new and sure their isn't a decade of info on them but the fact that these devices are being bought and used by adults as an alternative to smoke doesn't seem to warrant a 5 billion dollar bill to put a regulation on them.(5 billion is a fabrication cause I have no idea the total costs involved)
Most kids look at these things as weird stupid things that older people are wasting a lot of money on. Most adults using these devices tell kids they are using these to get off the smokes. They are cheap enough right now for many people to try and if they do use these inside their home with kids rather than smoking cigarettes then the kids are lucky to not have the second hand smoke around them.
If and possibly when the government steps in, the costs are going to go way up cause government these days only gets involved when a special interest sees a way to make money.
Take the money the government would waste on regulating this device and put it towards the thousands of homeless living on the streets right now. Where are the priorities of this government?

PROBLEM with government getting into this is that they over think themselves into a pot of political muck and as the Vapers here are spending their own money on these devices and making much success, the money is coming out of their pockets not the broke in-debted health care system the US has major issues with right now. It's a pretty stupid move to start messing with a product that is so promising to reduce smoking and maybe even wipe it out in a few more generations because some political idiot wants to tax this and regulate it, causing many to stray away and go else where.

 

[DaBrat]

Sure there will be folks buying vapers for their kids but those are the same folks who buy actual SMOKES for their kids. Trust me I have seen it. The problem with government is that they are too busy parenting people.

My kid thinks my PV is cool, would he even think of using it? No, he's smarter than I was.

Do you know that where I live it is legal for my 15 year old to consume alcoholic beverages as long as I provide them as his parent in the home? Will I? No! Legal or not!!!

 

[Applejackson]

Do you know that where I live it is legal for my 15 year old to consume alcoholic beverages as long as I provide them as his parent in the home? Will I? No! Legal or not!!!

What the...? Where do you live? In the 'States?

 

[Ankle Spanker]

some kinda of an restriction definitly needs to be put...

 

[Applejackson]

You mean like the restriction that kept me from picking up analogs when I was 14? Yeah, that worked well. The cost restriction is enough. More government control of anything is almost always bad and/or useless.

 

[bri1270]

i'm just saying, we as vapers seem so against any kind of government regulation on these products we use, i was just making an analogy. just trying to promote some discussion.

yes i saw your post before you deleted it. sticks & stones buddy

I don't care if you saw my post, I still think you're a ..... with an incessant need for attention. And this sort of thing promotes the wrong kind of attention. None of us here are against sensible regulation. What we're against is an outright ban based on the greed and hypocrisy of big business and government...very different.

 

[AGNES PEACOCK]

Each time these things (questions) come up about ethics and children I wonder about why it is allowed to sell the vaporizers and nicotine online and through the mail without any verification of ID/age.

I have purchased cigarettes in the past through the mail and had to provide a photo copy of my ID. Yet, there are none required from any of the suppliers or manufactures I have seen for vaporizers/nicotine.The Pay Pal argument just does not fly with me. There are always ways around that so called check. Here is an example of an online cigarette seller, they want a drivers license and the last 4 digits of a social security number: https://www.smokes-spirits.com/edit.../create/redirecturl/Checkout_AddressInfo.aspx

I do remember a while back that kids were ordering cases of wine online and regulations (ID checks) had to be put in place to stop it.

If I were a seller I would be concerned as to the legal and ethical aspects of selling a product (of adult nature) online or through the mail, to someone I cannot personally see or check the ID of. I would at least try to make a good faith effort to obtain a photo copy of an ID. Frankly, I would be very concerned that I quite possibly could have some kind of legal problems in the future, if I were not even making some kind of effort to verify the age of my customer.