Whats best cheapest E-cig to ween you off to quit completely?

[Vapor Pete]

It's your choice to spend $200 a month on ecig supplies.

It certainly is my choice. I never intended it to mean anything else. Im merely pointing out that the amount of money one spends on vaping, can creep up on oneself.

As you pointed out later in your post, some folks just have to try every thing that comes out. I dont feel that need. But it can play a big roll in the amount of money people spend.

-VP

 

[Vapor Pete]

$18??? Holy crap I couldn't even roll my own for $18 a carton!

Yes. Notice though, I said at the indian reservation, and "off brand". Smoking Marlboro or Winstons will cost a lot more.

-VP

 

[swedishfish]

Oh definitely! I'm not complaining about the price, to me whatever I've spent is worth it to quit smoking. I tried zyban, gum, patches, chantix and paid for them all out of pocket, plus I was still buying cigs.

I was rolling my own with crappy pipe tobacco. It was cheap but it ripped my throat apart.

I am just SO happy not to be smoking anymore that I can't describe it. I did this for my mom because she really had to quit, she has COPD and couldn't breath. She hasn't had a cig since she started and feels wonderful. Her doctor is thrilled and she's already off one of the blood pressure meds she was taking.

Sure, money was part of it. Cigs are $8 a pack here. But to be free of cigs and to see my mom get her health back somewhat has been priceless. No longer stinking like cigs is a huge bonus too.

 

[SABOTEUR]

...But the cheapest ecig is just way to waste money before buying a decent ecig.

I agree wholeheartedly. What you'll wind up with is a piece of crap that performs well enough to make you want to like vaping, yet inconsistent enough to piss you off.

You'd be better off getting a "reasonably priced", highly recommended PV that'll work consistently until you decide to drop vaping completely or invest in a "better" model.

I'm currently using the Joye eGo which I believe is a reasonably priced, low maintenance PV that's perfect for beginners. My only complaint is I wish it had been available 3 years ago when I first started vaping.

 

[joeperson]

E-cigs aren't designed to wean you from cigarettes they are an alternative nicotine delivery system, if you try to use an E-cig to quit smoking then think you can just put down the E-cig you will be smoking again in no time. It will take a long time to get off the nicotine and is well worth the investment in a quality E-cig to last you as long as you need to get off the nicotine.

Maybe I'm tired, but I can't see how that makes any sense at all.
You refer to e-cigs as nicotine delivery systems yet make a statement that they're worth the investment as long as you need to get off nicotine. Otherwise, it's hard to imagine you've noticed the number of people who are successfully using these instead of cigarettes and actually PREFER them to cigarettes. Regardless of how the FDA-dodging marketing is worded, that's as good a smoking cessation device as can be.
(nm, if by nicotine, you meant smoking in general, that makes sense to me)

As for the cheapest way, I don't think the part about buying garbage then learning the value of a good e-cig applies when the potential user is asking informed people first. The chances of success are much higher coming here first.

The DSE901 kit I got for $29 was only $9 more than the convenience store model I first bought and a much better value as it came with two batteries and more prefilled, refillable carts. By no means am I recommending that model over, say, a 510 or eGo; it's just a nice model ecig I happened to get on a deal as an example.

A good deal on a kit and extra bottle or two of e-liquid should last a good while. That initial purchase in itself will be probably already be cheaper than smoking normally for the duration, and after that point e-cigarettes should be considerablty cheaper provided you don't get addicted to trying new models and liquid flavors.
You also may not have the same sense of urgency to quit "smoking" the e-cigs if it's for health reasons and you're feeling better. If anything you have e-cigs to fall back on instead of lapsing into the real thing should your quitting attempt fail.

I agree with the advice of starting with a safe (pretty high) nicotine level and reducing nicotine as you go. No matter how long that takes, in all likelihood the e-cigs are a heck of a lot healthier while you get to the 0mg nicotine level. Then it's just a matter of whether or not the habitual addition is still there.

 

[CBB]

Maybe I'm tired, but I can't see how that makes any sense at all.
You refer to e-cigs as nicotine delivery systems yet make a statement that they're worth the investment as long as you need to get off nicotine. Otherwise, it's hard to imagine you've noticed the number of people who are successfully using these instead of cigarettes and actually PREFER them to cigarettes. Regardless of how the FDA-dodging marketing is worded, that's as good a smoking cessation device as can be.
(nm, if by nicotine, you meant smoking in general, that makes sense to me)

What I was tryign to say was in reference to the OP's OP where he indicated that after switching to a PV he could quickly wean himself of nicotine, I was trying to indicate that if he tried to get off nicotine too quickly he would probably find himself wanting to begin smoking or vaping again.

 

[SMKNOMOR]

If your looking for the best VALUE, consider this. How much do you spend on cigarettes? See I bought my first unit and 15 cartomizers for $80. That may seem expensive compared to butts.In Massachusetts where I live I paid $8.30 a pack and at a pack a day that first investment paid of itself in less than 10 days!! Then depending on what route you take from there it could cost $.50-$2.00 a day to have what you need to vape. Thats cheap.

Just go for quality first and foremost and then,let the savings pile up!!!

 

[electrowoman]

if this thread can stand another opinion, i'll offer mine. i tried a bunch of junk e-cigs and hated them all. then a friend introduced me to the eGo, and that was the key that turned the lock. but in the beginning, it became quite the obsession to find out which stuff i liked to use with the eGo. i use a drip tip on mine, now. cartridges were too much of a hassle. cartos just peformed inconsistently, and i didn't like the flavor. but, there's a reason they make a ton of stuff for your e-cig! it's really true when folks say "everyone is different".

i was a pack to pack 1/2 a day camel lights smoker. tried MYO smokes, but it was a major PIA. i started with 24mg nicotine liquid. ordered a bunch of flavors in the beginning in a flavor frenzy, and have finally settled down, 5 months later to a handful of "go to" flavors that i like. i can bump between nicotine levels now...from about 16 to 24mg, but prefer the 24 mg the most.

as for cost, once i settled down, i find i spend about $20 on juice/month and go through 1 or 2 attys. that works out to about 30-35/month versus the $210+ i was paying for premium smokes here. in the beginning month or two, though, i probably actually spent more trying to figure out what worked best for me.

i'm very glad i started vaping, ecstatic my pal introduced me to the eGo (which is like the riva). got mine for about $55 including shipping at puresmoker.com. i feel fabulous. i don't care if i ever get off NICOTINE. for me it was about getting off the suicide sticks.

good luck to you. this forum is a wealth of great information, so keep poking around. if you have questions about e-cigs, you'll definitely find the answer here.

 

[John Phoenix]

Thanks again so much for the replies !!!


The links you guys gave me are great and will help me decide. I'm 43 been smoking since 18 and really want to quit before something bad happens to my body. The advise you all gave is Primo and I will think long and hard using that advice to make my choices. I wish there was a way I could find out how much nicotine is in the TOP tobacco that I smoke but it's not printed on the package like other cigs.

I smoke the Top ( found it better than other brands and it didn't hurt my throat or feel like smoking wood) in a pipe or roll your own and even though it doesn't have a filter, I think I have cut down compared to a pack a day. If I roll one I smoke half at a time or in the pipe just a few puffs at a time. I did notice when I switched that I got my nicotine without the extra added chemicals they put in regular cigs. If I try to smoke a regular cig now ( any brand) I can taste the chemicals and it makes me feel sick, unlike a stronger nicotine rush - where as Top is straight tobacco without the chemicals, I'm convinced regular cigs have added horrible stuff - thus I feel I'm already doing better on the right track but just need something different to quit for good. Cold turkey doesn't cut it, I have tried many times.

I know the above doesn't pertain to e-cigs but since we are all smokers here I thought it might help someone out - just another example of what the cigarette companies do to kill you.

 

[MickeyRat]

I wish there was a way I could find out how much nicotine is in the TOP tobacco that I smoke but it's not printed on the package like other cigs.

It wouldn't matter if you had that info. You absorb nicotine at a different rate when you vape than when you smoke. You also vape differently than you smoke. There's is literally no correlation at all.

 

[Secti0n31]

If you smoke Top with no filters or full flavor tubes the ideal liquid to start for you would be something like Dekang Tobacco (DK-Tab) Freedom Smoke USA's Purecig, or something similar (in 24mg nicotine). I also suggest that you get an "indulgence flavor" Like a butterscotch or a caramel or some kind of fruit or candy also in 24mg. You can get an ego kit and Dekang tobaccos from ValueVapor.com for CHEAP.

 

[Adrena]

510 DISPOSABLE E-CIG KIT with Blue LED
The only disposable yet rechargeable for 10 bucks I have found.
Now to quit in steps best you take that in your own hands and out of the pockets of ppl that would take advantage using "prefilled" carto at malls and such..
let me assume you want to take 6 month to quit smoking and stop vaping. To save your friends and loved ones form a nic fit demon from hell. Step down your the nic's mg as you go as you feel you can handle. I suggest trying 18 to 24 mg to start. Anything higher is more then a quitter would need. You buy the juice you need, don't leave it to prefilled cartos.

So you will need 4 to 6 boxes of lets say Cartomizers for ease of quitting and refill value. 54.oo or so
5ml a day estimate = about 900ml for 6 months at most if your trying to quit. 220.oo or so

Now if saving money is the issue do you spend more then say 300.oo to 350.oo on cigs, lighter, matches gas to the store (for that midnight rush to get a cig) and such in a 6 month time frame?
Don't forget though you not just saving money your saving a life, your own........

 

[420nyc]

great post!

 

[John Phoenix]

After seeing a lot of videos I decided on the disposable 510 model listed above. I hope the batteries and atomizers will last long enough for this "project" but I will buy 2 at 10 bucks each so I will have spare parts.

On this page: BlueMist Vaping Supplies The prices are good, 10 bucks for a 30 ML bottle.

BUT - ( and this is where i need the most help) These are all their "Tobacco" flavors - Is none of these just regular tobacco flavors? It seems they are all flavored with other flavors?

If so can someone suggest another company with regular tobacco flavors in this price range? ( even cheaper is better cus I currently only spend 20 bucks a month on tobacco ( 4.50 a Top Tobacco pouch/week) but so far this is the cheapest I've found. )

I figure I will need 4 30 Ml bottles of juice. The nicotine ranges from:
Zero- NO Nicotine
08mg/0.8% NBV (Low)
16mg/1.6% NBV (Medium-High)
24mg/2.4% NBV (High)
32mg/3.2% NBV (Extra High)

I will start at the 24 mg. If most people smoke between 3 to 5 ML a day this should last me a week per bottle. Yeah that's right. I plan to quit in only 1 month. I figure that's enough of a gradual nicotine decline my body can handle without me going nuts.

i do not understand this company giving you a choice between juice made from "We blend it with your choice of 100% Vegetable Glycerin or our special blend of 80% PG and 20% VG. " source: BlueMist Vaping Supplies

Whats the difference?

Also the above 510 model comes with "1 Blank 510 catridge (no filling)" - ?? Why give you a blank one you cannot fill and what exactly is a Cartomizer and will I need one?

Is the idea that this is disposable - meaning that it cannot be refilled?

Is that only for quick refilling as opposed to filling the e-cig manually or do I have my info wrong?

I keep editing this post with more questions ands i have even read the FAQ's - there is a lot to take in with all this.

 

[Silversmyth]

If you are going to buy 2 of these "disposable" ones--would be a LOT better off
adding 10$ and get a Riva 510 from liberty flights.
You get 2 units in kit and batteries will last all day on a charge--not 1-2 hours like the disp.
I don't think the disp. will last a month--could be wrong tho.
JMHO

 

[Brooklynguy1]

I personally am a parts guy i love exploring new products and attachments i love to try them all . This may seem counter productive to the analog e-cig saving ratio but it's fun for me keeps me interested and vaping . I recently got into the world of mods this can be expensive so I am going really easy with it . But no matter what I STOPPED SMOKING CIGARETTES because of this industry so my personal feeling is as long as my bills are paid and I use my budget wisely and have money left over at the end of the month to put in the bank I'm buying E-CIG stuff.

Set a budget for yourself do the research feel confident that when you spend the money you did it wisely no matter what you bought and you will be satisfied and vape happily . When that happens it just makes the whole experience worth it. Like I said just spend wisely after researching. Good luck!

 

[John Phoenix]

trying to get my posts up to 15, so I can PM another member

Then a Mod should delete one of your points for this post cus you didn't contribute anything worthwhile to this thread. Trolling is no fun for anyone.
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Silversmyth - I'll look into the Riva 510

EDIT: I looked into the Riva 510 - that's a negatory soldier. That Riva is 42 bucks - not 10 dollars but twice the amount of the 2 disposables I'm looking at. And that thing is Ugly with it's tapered style. Mission aborted. http://www.liberty-flights.com/product.asp?id=55

Silversmyth - you said you the batteries would only hold a charge for 1 - 2 hours - I plan to keep the e-cig plugged in to the USB charger between uses - I only puff about 5 puff of my pipe each time - why wouldn't that strategy work?

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Still the questions I'm confused on remains.

Do I really need Cartomizers?

What exactly makes the disposable a disposable?

Whats the difference between VG and PG based juice?

Pleaase someone try to answer all the questions from my above post. Thanks.

 

[cconti]

I haven't read the whole thread but it has been over a week now that I have quit analogs and I do have a few suggestion based on my experience:

#1 at $5.00+ a pack it only takes you (assuming a pack a day habit) less than a month to break even if you buy one of the more expensive kits

#2 e-Cigs are not perfect, mechanically and it's not unusual for them to fail

#3 I would buy a Kit, or go straight to a box mod, that allows you to keep on vaping even if there is a failure

#4 As far as liquids, I would buy smaller bottles of medium to high nicotine content + one large bottle of a menthol type liquid with nicotine. Spending $20 on liquids won;t break anyone and will give you plenty to vape for a while. Menthol (and I hate menthol analogs) is quite smokable compared to cigarette like flavors which take some getting used to and many don;t like outright. For instance, I bought a small menthol and several cig like liquids. Thank god I got the menthol because none of the cig-like liquid did it for me at first. Now, I actually like a few of them but the taste of analogs is gone from my buds.

Basically, you want a fail safe kit that gives vaping the best shot you can give it. Since I started vaping I have been plagued by batteries that take forever to recharge, batteries that fail after a single use, liquids that taste nasty (at first), etc. I was able to quit for good and I am happy about it, but someone with less determination might have written the whole thing off.

Let me expand on #3 a bit: what I mean there is to make sure you have extra batteries, that you have at least one passthrough so if the batteries fail you can vape with the USB passthrough in the car or at your desk.

As far as what's best, assuming that you like a cigarette like shape, the Box mods may be too much at first, but don;t buy those that are exactly like a cigarette but those with a larger battery. Beside that mine failed a day into it, I still like the power and (supposedly) longer charge much better. I think the one I got is the Riva 901. I would get something like that or better.

Above all, don't let price steer you toward a cheap solution. You have to succeed both for your health and for your wallet. If you buy something cheap that is too much of a hassle and go back to analogs then you'll really have wasted your money.

If you spend a bit more, inside of two months not only iot will be paid for, but your saving will far exceed your investment.

As far as using it just to quit, frankly I like vaping very much. I tooo thought I would use it to quit, but now I am reconsidering. I like sucking on something while I work. I just don;t like getting killed in the process.

So buy your kit (I am sure others have had great suggestions) but make sure to:

1) Extra batteries
2) Maybe an extra charger as well (in case one fails or justso you have more batteries at the ready)
3) Get a passthrough
4) buy enough liquids

 

[Silversmyth]

Then a Mod should delete one of your points for this post cus you didn't contribute anything worthwhile to this thread. Trolling is no fun for anyone.
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I'll look into the Riva 510

EDIT: I looked into the Riva 510 - that's a negatory soldier. That Riva is 42 bucks - not 10 dollars but twice the amount of the 2 disposables I'm looking at. And that thing is Ugly with it's tapered style. Mission aborted. Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510

Still the questions I'm confused on remains.

Do I really need Cartomizers?

What exactly makes the disposable a disposable?

Whats the difference between VG and PG based juice?

Pleaase someone try to answer all the questions from my above post. Thanks.

Not 42$ --29.99- for the lite bundle with the 20% off at top of site.
And cartimizers are up to you--no you don't need them-but you may like them--some do and some do not.
Called" disposable "because they do not last long .

 

[caged]

In light of those questions - now what products (cheapest) do you recommend?

Thanks.

I'm pretty happy with the ePower unit. It costs less than $50 and is a modular system so you only have to pay $5 or so for a new battery if one dies on you. The unit lasts a long time in between charges too.