What's so great about Provaris?

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Hey, I kind of would like to ask my fiancee for a Provari for my birthday but am having a hard time justifying spending $180 on a battery. The most I've spent on a battery so far is like $40. What makes them worth that price?

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good question.

one thing to consider (as you hide the checkbook from the wife) is it's a device that controls the output of your battery to your topper of choice. you'll still need to purchase at least 2 or 3 batteries and a charger. (plus your topper of choice, coil and wick for it [or premade heads] and juice.) that's another $35 to $80 or more depending on how many batteries and the charger you choose to buy.

that being said... if you're buying $40 batteries (i'm assuming ego style or innokin style all in one units that charge via usb) then the provari is going to have a good chance at being an end all, be all device. it's built rock solid to last nearly forever with a 1 year (or 2 year for a price) complete coverage warranty and lifetime service (at a price after the warranty period) to match.

it's a fantastic investment for an average vaper who just wants a device they can depend on and always give a great vape.

if you ever out grow it's limits (i have... but the wife is just as happy to enjoy mine and hers so she can color coordinate :p) you can sell it to recoup a good portion of what you spent.

i'll endorse the provape lineup till the end of time. fantastic products (their products). fantastic support. i know. i had the wifes repaired just over a month after purchasing it. they sent a free carto tank back with it that made up for the price of shipping it to them. i won't use it because it's plastic, but more than appreciate the sentiment. they fixed and cleaned it for free to boot. and it didn't need cleaning...

so although i vape at 35 to 80 watts all day, every day, i can't deny the stellar craftsmanship, build quality and backing of such a great product from a great company. it doesn't matter if it doesn't fit my needs. the wife (and she's SERIOUSLY clumsy and destructive) hasn't been able to break either of them thus far. THAT IS a miracle!!!
 

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Ok, I'll bite. Why is a Provari worth the price:

  • It's been the most dependable, reliable, and durable regulated mod over the last four years. There's a reason why it set the standard for regulated mods. Many mods have come and gone, and none of them earned the title as the Provari Killer. This is one of the reasons that so many owners "defend" their Provari purchase. Most say they wished they had just purchased it 3 or 4 mods ago after those died an early death. Why do so many Provari owners own more than one? Because they recognize real value for the money and they're worth the extra cost. It comforting to know it will survive a 12 foot drop onto concrete or a dunk in the toilette. It's good to know something can be relied on to work each and every time you use it. Will that DNA box mod survive all of that?

  • Unquestionable build quality and attention to detail. USA made parts and a great warranty to boot. Has anyone watched PBusardo's reviews of the build quality of the latest DNA box mods? If they come that poorly made to him for review, how long are they going to last for a real customer?

  • Superior voltage regulation. The last puff will be as good as the first. Other mods may have power regulation, but they will not be as accurate as a Provari. The 800 Hz PWM chip provides what many say is a "smoother vape", unlike the 33.3 Hz rattlesnake chip most Chinese manufactured mods use. My MVP vapes as good as my Provari's, but towards the end of the battery charge it falls off just like a mechanical mod does.

  • The warranty and customer service. How many mods come with an actual 1 year warranty, and the option to buy a second year? How many manufacturers support their product for life? Which ones will return your mod within a week after service? I'll wait for your answer...

  • Out-dated technology? Not every vapor wants to vape sub-ohms or vape over 20 watts. The mainstream vapers are perfectly content to use clearomizers, cartotanks, and Kayfun RBA's. Sure, if you vape sub-ohms or need over 20 watts power to get a satisfactory vape then a Provari is not for you.

  • No variable wattage? So what? I've owned a ZMax with variable wattage and never understood its usefulness for the way I vape. All of my attachments use the same resistance. I'm changing voltage with each flavor I use (up to 3 - 4 a day, I like variety), so I'd be changing settings whether I had VW or not.

i wholeheartedly agree.

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fit and finish, performance is better... they are reliable etc... threads are great... no power drop off.. excellent customer service... relatively safe...

you can get something decent for cheaper... and perhaps you need to do that a few times before you can appreciate a device made properly... not being snooty... in fact, it took me 3 years to get my first one ;-)~ I had second thoughts about the $ I spent untilI started using it etc...
 

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Ok, I'll bite. Why is a Provari worth the price:

  • It's been the most dependable, reliable, and durable regulated mod over the last four years. There's a reason why it set the standard for regulated mods. Many mods have come and gone, and none of them earned the title as the Provari Killer. This is one of the reasons that so many owners "defend" their Provari purchase. Most say they wished they had just purchased it 3 or 4 mods ago after those died an early death. Why do so many Provari owners own more than one? Because they recognize real value for the money and they're worth the extra cost. It comforting to know it will survive a 12 foot drop onto concrete or a dunk in the swimming pool. It's good to know something can be relied on to work each and every time you use it. Will that DNA box mod survive all of that?

  • Unquestionable build quality and attention to detail. USA made parts and a great warranty to boot. Has anyone watched PBusardo's reviews of the build quality of the latest DNA box mods? If they come that poorly made to him for review, how long are they going to last for a real customer?

  • Superior voltage regulation. The last puff will be as good as the first. Other mods may have power regulation, but they will not be as accurate as a Provari. The 800 Hz PWM chip provides what many say is a "smoother vape", unlike the 33.3 Hz rattlesnake chip most Chinese manufactured mods use. My MVP vapes as good as my Provari's when fully charged, but towards the end of the battery charge it falls off just like a mechanical mod does. Not the Provari.

  • The warranty and customer service. How many mods come with an actual 1 year warranty, and the option to buy a second year? How many manufacturers support their product for life? Which ones will return your mod within a week after service? I'll wait for your answer...

  • Out-dated technology? Not every vapor wants to vape sub-ohms or vape over 20 watts. The mainstream vapers are perfectly content to use clearomizers, cartotanks, and Kayfun RBA's. Sure, if you vape sub-ohms or need over 20 watts power to get a satisfactory vape then a Provari is not for you.

  • No variable wattage? So what? I've owned a ZMax with variable wattage and never understood its usefulness for the way I vape. All of my attachments use the same resistance. I'm changing voltage with each flavor I use (up to 3 - 4 a day, I like variety), so I'd be changing settings whether I had VW or not.

Hey baditude! These are all good points for the most part- I know for a fact you are telling the truth about the build quality, reliability, customer service, and warranty. I don't take those things lightly either! The superior voltage regulation claim is inaccurate though- DNA30 mods use DC to DC instead of PWM. Sure, Provari has awesome PWM but it's still PWM instead of a true DC signal. I admit that 20 watts will be just fine for most vapers, but it's still a limitation nonetheless. Finally, I can't say enough how outdated the user interface and screen are!! Granted, many people may not care but it doesn't make it any less true.
 

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Hey baditude! These are all good points for the most part- I know for a fact you are telling the truth about the build quality, reliability, customer service, and warranty. I don't take those things lightly either! The superior voltage regulation claim is inaccurate though- DNA30 mods use DC to DC instead of PWM. Sure, Provari has awesome PWM but it's still PWM instead of a true DC signal. I admit that 20 watts will be just fine for most vapers, but it's still a limitation nonetheless. Finally, I can't say enough how outdated the user interface and screen are!! Granted, many people may not care but it doesn't make it any less true.

I guess you better throw away all your DNA 30s then because that layout has been out for a few years now and the P3 has a much better deeper OLED layout with multiple profiles and other bells and whistles!

^ See how silly this this reply looks on paper? That's exactly how we feel about your outdated layout claim it's a PV not Windows 8 Ultimate Edition.
 

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I guess you better throw away all your DNA 30s then because that layout has been out for a few years now and the P3 has a much better deeper OLED layout with multiple profiles and other bells and whistles!

^ See how silly this this reply looks on paper? That's exactly how we feel about your outdated layout claim it's a PV not Windows 8 Ultimate Edition.
Well the main problem with that argument is my DNA 30s all have a three-button user interface and a decent screen already, can't say that about the Provari [emoji16]
 

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Ok, I'll bite. Why is a Provari worth the price:

  • It's been the most dependable, reliable, and durable regulated mod over the last four years. There's a reason why it set the standard for regulated mods. Many mods have come and gone, and none of them earned the title as the Provari Killer. This is one of the reasons that so many owners "defend" their Provari purchase. Most say they wished they had just purchased it 3 or 4 mods ago after those died an early death. Why do so many Provari owners own more than one? Because they recognize real value for the money and they're worth the extra cost. It comforting to know it will survive a 12 foot drop onto concrete or a dunk in the swimming pool. It's good to know something can be relied on to work each and every time you use it. Will that DNA box mod survive all of that?
  • Unquestionable build quality and attention to detail. USA made parts and a great warranty to boot. Has anyone watched PBusardo's reviews of the build quality of the latest DNA box mods? If they come that poorly made to him for review, how long are they going to last for a real customer?
  • Superior voltage regulation. The last puff will be as good as the first. Other mods may have power regulation, but they will not be as accurate as a Provari. The 800 Hz PWM chip provides what many say is a "smoother vape", unlike the 33.3 Hz rattlesnake chip most Chinese manufactured mods use. My MVP vapes as good as my Provari's when fully charged, but towards the end of the battery charge it falls off just like a mechanical mod does. Not the Provari.
  • The warranty and customer service. How many mods come with an actual 1 year warranty, and the option to buy a second year? How many manufacturers support their product for life? Which ones will return your mod within a week after service? I'll wait for your answer...
  • Out-dated technology? Not every vapor wants to vape sub-ohms or vape over 20 watts. The mainstream vapers are perfectly content to use clearomizers, cartotanks, and Kayfun RBA's. Sure, if you vape sub-ohms or need over 20 watts power to get a satisfactory vape then a Provari is not for you.
  • No variable wattage? So what? I've owned a ZMax with variable wattage and never understood its usefulness for the way I vape. All of my attachments use the same resistance. I'm changing voltage with each flavor I use (up to 3 - 4 a day, I like variety), so I'd be changing settings whether I had VW or not.

I agree with your post on every count. I also had a VV/VW device (SmokTech Zmax Telescope). It's a supposed more "technological" device and to be honest, it paled dramatically in comparison to my Provari. For the way I vape, which sounds much like the way you vape, I don't change tops every 6 seconds, I don't build coils, I don't sub-ohm so VV works just fine for me. I saw absolutely no difference in VW. So while some might say the current 2.5 is outdated, I can't say it's deficient in any way for my needs. What it does do, is work every time I push the button. And it works flawlessly too.

For anyone who thinks a Provari is out dated, the solution is simple. Don't buy one. But why there is such angst in this or any "what's great about a Provari" thread is childish. There are loads of options out there and thankfully, not every device is right for every person.
 

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Well the main problem with that argument is my DNA 30s all have a three-button user interface and a decent screen already, can't say that about the Provari [emoji16]

Provari has the best one button configurations you'll find don't need 3 buttons. The DNAs are good chips other than the reverse battery protection I have nothing bad to say about then. I do think alot of the mods they go into are absolute junk however, but that's not Evolve's problem.
 

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Provari has the best one button configurations you'll find don't need 3 buttons. The DNAs are good chips other than the reverse battery protection I have nothing bad to say about then. I do think alot of the mods they go into are absolute junk however, but that's not Evolve's problem.
Explain to me the steps involved in changing the voltage on a Provari. I believe it involves several button presses. With any of my DNA 30s I just hit the (+) or (-) button (one button press). This is why a three button interface is vastly superior.
 

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Explain to me the steps involved in changing the voltage on a Provari. I believe it involves several button presses. With any of my DNA 30s I just hit the (+) or (-) button (one button press). This is why a three button interface is vastly superior.

Depends on how you look at it why does the DNA screen stay on so long? You kill alot of battery just by having the screen on from fully lit for x sec to medium to fade out. It takes me 2 secs to change voltage, good thing is I don't have to worry about it ever changing on my while in my pocket. Also all Provaris (for the most part) are created equal the DNA mods vary GREATLY in quality from pretty darn good (but still no Provari) to god aweful boxes of mesh glue.
 

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my marlboros didn't even have a screen to tell me whether the cherry was lit or not, but i held on to them damned things for 24 years. often times i had to flick my bic 30 or 40 times to get it to light and start all over again when the wind blew it out just as the paper past the packed tobacco fizzed out.

sometimes i wonder how people who complain that the one button interface is outdated or too much work even get their wicks saturated or their toppers filled and/or screwed on. sometimes i wonder how they made it through the 80's when half the alarm clocks still had flip-face numbers and an actual bell. how did these people get to work on time? :blink:

of course i'm being facetious, but at times this logic seems almost relevant.
 

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Compared to three buttons that work every time you push them? [emoji6]

We both know that's not always the case, the buttons work if the case and buttons are of quality which in some cases they are in others they cave in because the darn things are actually glued on.
 
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