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Similar results when you have "exactly the right" resistance coil or coils to suit a particular juice.
I know that you like the kGo battery, but I do think you're going a little overboard in your promotion of it. I think it's fair to say that while not needed by most people to get a perfectly satisfying vape, variable voltage devices can and do provide a better vape than constant voltage devices do, except, as I say, when the CV device is matched with just the right resistance coil. I hesitate to even say "coils", although it's probably fairly accurate to say that a battery like the kGo can give a fine vape with low-resistance dual coils of 1.5 ohms, but even at that, you're down to around 4.5 watts per coil.
Additionally, although I don't even have much personal experience with it, I have reason to believe that arriving at a given wattage per coil through higher volts and higher ohms will give a better vape than the same amount of watts per coil achieved though lower voltage and and lower resistance. With a 3.0 ohm single coil, the kGo would put the coil at the same, relatively marginal wattage of around 4.5.
So that, in essence, is my answer to the question you just posed - "why spend $200", etc. I think it's also useful to note that one needn't spend anywhere near that amount of money to get a feel for some of the potential advantages of using a variable voltage device. A $29 Joyetech EGo Twist would be a nice device to play around with, with voltage variable between 3.2 and 4.8 volts. Or a re-branded Lavatube 1.5 like this one, for $70, including batteries and a charger:
VA Variable Volt Mod Version 1.5
Well put on all accounts.
The only thing I'll add is that if within budget and if the ProVari or other is what you really want, avoid the mid-step costs and just get it....
I certainly wish I had jumped on it sooner myself, I could have saved a lot of money over the last 4+ years of vaping...
The only thing I'll add is that if within budget and if the ProVari or other is what you really want, avoid the mid-step costs and just get it....
I certainly wish I had jumped on it sooner myself, I could have saved a lot of money over the last 4+ years of vaping...
I recommend the Kgo as a good beginner model regularly. But beyond not being variable, it can't match the performance of the top level variables in several categories. I'm more familar with the variable wattage Darwin, so I will use that as an example. First, unlike the Kgo and most fixed volt PV's, the Darwin is not only regulated but uses boost circuit technology. That provides the ultimate in consistency. The last vape before the battery dies is just as good as the first off the charger. The power to the atty/carto is constant at what the user sets it at during the life of the battery charge. To me that is a huge advantage. There are no "battery drain" problems that you will get with almost all models in the Kgo price range. Second is length of vaping time on charge. With a Kgo type model you might get 5 - 7 hours, the last half of which will not be at full power. With the Darwin, you will get 21 - 35 hours with no drop off in battery performance.
These advantages alone significantly out perform most models.
I recently just got my kgo, but when it dies I might just get another one. The Volt is sexy and all but I don't know if I can handle the low battery life. The Provari is a beast and I'd love to toy with the voltage to get different levels of throat hit but it looks bulky. The kgo has a decent battery life and is a mid sized e cig, plus it's only $43. The volt is $60-70 and the Provari is $150 not including the battery and accessories.
As said above: "A $29 Joyetech EGo Twist would be a nice device to play around with, with voltage variable between 3.2 and 4.8 volts. Or a re-branded Lavatube 1.5 like this one, for $70, including batteries and a charger":
http://www.vaporalley.com/VA-Variable-Volt-Mod-Version-15_p_244.html
Spend the extra $20 and get the Provari. Unless you are into vaping plasma, it's got all the power you will ever need.
That's why I use Volt X2s. They're not too huge, the 1300 Mah are about the size of a large cigar and only a little heavier and the 650s are of course about half the size. And I get them as Autos because I don't like pressing buttons either (I have one manual for dry burning clearomizers and such, everything else is auto). I also like that their Autos are sealed because I'm messy with juice.
Plus, they're passthrough and use a Mini USB connection to do it. I can always find a mini USB cord somewhere (Convenience stores and truck stops always have 'em cheap) even if I didn't have dozens of the things laying around for the car, the wall and the computer from years of Cell Phones, Harmony remotes, etc. and the X2 come with one as well. So as long as I can get to my car or a computer, I'm never in danger of being stuck with a dead batt. Much easier than trying to charge an 18650 if I'm not at home.
Oh, and they just started getting cones in so they can look good with carts too. And they're working on getting more battery customization options in the next few months as well.
And you get a very surprising amount of vapor from them. Here's a quick Youtube search example (for the minis, the X2s perform the same, they just last longer on a charge): VOLT electronic cigarette kit from Smokelessimage.com - YouTube
That's enough for me to be satisfying. If I want more, I'll dig in the Halloween box and pull out the fog machine.
The minis are good and are what I started with (I wanted Bloogs, but they were always sold out). But at first I was chain vaping like crazy and would burn through a charge in an hour. Wasn't able to kick the cigs entirely until I switched to X2s because I'd have to smoke while waiting for batts to charge since the minis aren't PT (they do have a PT mini but it's a manual and it's only PT).
Not without an adapter (and they can be iffy with adapters). The Volts are kr808s. But, SI has blank carts which are excellent and equal to the best 510 carts I've used. They also have Stardust-type Clearomizers which work really well.
VV is nice to have. But for me it was only nice to have so I could find out I didn't need it. I ended up dialing it in to give me the same kind of performance I get with my 3.7s.
The Ego Twist might be a good entry level VV device to try it out. It's very new (many Ego vendors don't have them yet) so it wasn't an option for me and I haven't tried one out, but it looks like a nice, cheap device to give VV a try to see if you like (or want) it.
I ordered a pair of eGo-C Twist batteries from Cignot this morning. Looks like a reasonably cheap way to do some vaping voltage testing...
The best PV is 'more than one'. I wouldn't be satisfied with just one PV regardless of which one you want to name.
My favorite fixed voltage PV is the Mako.
My favorite VV PV I put togeather myself. http://www.howder.com/dena_howto.pdf
My favorite fixed voltage PV is the Mako.
My favorite VV PV I put togeather myself. http://www.howder.com/dena_howto.pdf
My wife loves the EGO 900 with Ego mega cart at 1.7 ohms, Cart lasts about as long as battery. Battery dies, get the spare off the charger and put a refilled cart on it
I refill her carts with a 1.5 inch, 18 ga blunt needle, Be sure and use only Luer Lock syringes and needles, very secure
I use a Jugz tank with 1.5 ohm cart on my Ego Battery and a 3 ohm Jugz tank on my Vmax VV. The Vmax lasts about 20 hours, Pulse voltage control so the hit remains constant, just like the ego
I use Atty's for taste testing and Meet Ups
Also either set up comes in under $200, the Ego under $100
I refill her carts with a 1.5 inch, 18 ga blunt needle, Be sure and use only Luer Lock syringes and needles, very secure
I use a Jugz tank with 1.5 ohm cart on my Ego Battery and a 3 ohm Jugz tank on my Vmax VV. The Vmax lasts about 20 hours, Pulse voltage control so the hit remains constant, just like the ego
I use Atty's for taste testing and Meet Ups
Also either set up comes in under $200, the Ego under $100
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I just got my eGo-C Twist in the mail today, and I'm really enjoying it. It's nice to be able to play around with voltages without making a huge commitment to something like the Provari. I do eventually intend on purchasing a Provari Mini, but since I've never had a VV vaporizer, I'd like to start slow and easy. The eGo-C Twist is the perfect--and economical--starting point. I mean, $29? You can't exactly go wrong.
For a vaper on a budget, that wants variable voltage, the Lava Tube is an option. I have one, and I love it frankly. It'll run you about $100 for a basic kit, maybe $80 depending on where you buy. I think the collective opinion is that it's not as good as a Provari or Darwin, but it also doesn't cost nearly as much. Take that into consideration.
Although, if you really like vaping low res or duel coil, meh, I'm not sure VV is the way to go. If that's what you're into, if it were me, I'd just get an Ego clone with the highest mAH I could find. In fact, you know what, before you decide your current hardware isn't enough, why not go ahead and try low res and duel coil?
Although, if you really like vaping low res or duel coil, meh, I'm not sure VV is the way to go. If that's what you're into, if it were me, I'd just get an Ego clone with the highest mAH I could find. In fact, you know what, before you decide your current hardware isn't enough, why not go ahead and try low res and duel coil?
Personally I like to fully explore occupied ground before venturing off for something better, otherwise I won't know what I'm looking for. Also, for some time now I've been living on a broken income (which, incidentally, retirement failed to "fix") so when I throw a dollar at some perceived issue I want as many of those pennies to hit the issue as possible. I know everyone's priorities are different, as are everyone's tastes, but with those things in mind:
If you like to drip (as I do) I'll bump a previous poster's suggestion for IkenVape atomizers, particularly the io6 series. I prefer the 1.8 Ohm but 1.5 are also excellent. Their 510 attys are also very good, and all these are priced at less than ten bucks each. Note that the io6 is slightly larger in diameter than the 306 so requires a unique drip tip. Both the resistances I've mentioned work exceptionally well for me at 3.7 volts on my E-Power 14650, which has about the same specs as a KGO.
I've been using my E-Power for over 6 months now with no problems at all & still exploring its capabilities, but I'm also looking to upgrade when finances permit. ATM the bottom feeders are looking especially interesting to me, particularly the REO. Seems to me bottom-feeding an atty should work great with a little practice, and such a device should be shirt-pocket friendly. This might be something of interest to the OP as well, when/if an upgrade is due.
Best wishes, & Happy Vaping!
If you like to drip (as I do) I'll bump a previous poster's suggestion for IkenVape atomizers, particularly the io6 series. I prefer the 1.8 Ohm but 1.5 are also excellent. Their 510 attys are also very good, and all these are priced at less than ten bucks each. Note that the io6 is slightly larger in diameter than the 306 so requires a unique drip tip. Both the resistances I've mentioned work exceptionally well for me at 3.7 volts on my E-Power 14650, which has about the same specs as a KGO.
I've been using my E-Power for over 6 months now with no problems at all & still exploring its capabilities, but I'm also looking to upgrade when finances permit. ATM the bottom feeders are looking especially interesting to me, particularly the REO. Seems to me bottom-feeding an atty should work great with a little practice, and such a device should be shirt-pocket friendly. This might be something of interest to the OP as well, when/if an upgrade is due.
Best wishes, & Happy Vaping!
You can use 1.5 ohm dual coil cartos on a number of VV/W model PV's. Dual coils, for many of us, perform best between 4.5 - 5.0 volts. It's the Lavatube that limits what you can use on it, such as dual coils, which is why I cannot recommend it.
In the same price range/physical size, you can get the selectable/variable EVO and not have the limitations of the Lavatube.
that's very vague. Lava Tube chrome, Silver bullet, Chuck, The Don, Diamante(Which is very cool and a great ecig), The Buzz pro 2, The bombshell, I think the provari mini may be under 200. There are many more mods you just have to explore. Check out GrimmGreens youtube reviews.
It depends - are you wanting to budget 200$ for just the PV itself, or 200$ for the PV + accessories. If you just want to spend 200$ or less on the PV and you have an open budget to get the cartos/atomizers/batteries/tanks/drip shields/whatever else you want to get, then I'd say Provari for sure. If you want to spend 200$ TOTAL, I would look at a cheaper option so you can afford the rest. A PV can only be as good as what you put in it and on it.
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