What's the differnce between a Provari and a Variable Wattage? I need a Flavor Boost.

[shazyzen]

G'day folks.

I haven't posted in a while as I've been doing a lot of research on Provari's (and I have begun to DIY- I'll save this topic for another thread soon). I've had some flavour and clearomizer issues and thus have been doing lots of reading... it seems Provari's are the best. I have found a lot of information regarding cartomizers and carto' tanks- and the Phiniac's look amazing. I will be buying a few of those tanks very soon. Wow- you guys in America have the best stuff- and not just Levi's (my fave jeans)- .

So, today I took the plunge (my wallet said ouch- LoL)- but I just have to try a Provari! I cant wait to try it- straight form the great U.S.A. Postage was high but they recon it'll be here in 5 days- which seems amazing. And it worked out cheaper to buy it form the U.S even with the hefty $46 (express) postage cost.

Comparatively, most things are more expensive to buy here in Australia; seriously a pair of Levi's here cost $150+. Still, if I love, love, love the Provari, I will most likely buy another in a few weeks from an Aussie vendor- just to support locals also.

I have always valued Quality products, but it has taken me 2 months after starting vaping to take the plunge and get a Provari. Am I saying Provari too much- sorry. . BTW I just celebrated my 2 month anniversary for quitting the RYO's last Sunday- thanks to vaping- Yeah! I have not had one stinky, not even one drag- which seems unfathomable to me truly. I never thought I could quit and now I am buying a Provari. Thanks to everyone at ECF for you invaluable information on everything Vape related.

Anyhow, I would love to here from Provari AND VW users as I want to know the difference between the Provari VV and a Variable Wattage device. I may look into getting a Variable Wattage PV in the future- but I need to know more about the benefits of VW first. I'm in it for the Flavor and the consistency of Vape and the quality of hardware and batteries. I'm not fussed about big clouds. But I like a good solid, tasty, smooth Vape. It's nice to have a bit of TH at times too.

Any input regarding Carto' Tanks and flavour would be much appreciated too.

All the very best Fellow Vaper's & Happy vaping.

 

[zanedog]

The way I look at it, VV vs VW, two different ways to achieve the same goal.

 

[lordmage]

provari is VV.. up to 6.o and is pulse width modulation. rebuildable are only able to do 2.0 safely. it is not a mech mod. there are safety's in place.

VW will stay constant to your wattage setting and adjust with resistance drops and limited to the amperage limits of your device.
with VV your fav voltage will change a bit due to resistance VW will be the same.

another way to think of it is 4.75 volts is affect by resistance. 1.5 so your really vaping 3.25 volts
but 6 watts is 6 watts. your vaping 6 watts.

 

[shazyzen]

Thanks Zanedog- this makes some send.

Lordmage, Sorry but I don't quite follow. I am rather new to VV and VW- I must do some more research, then I'm sure it will make more sense.

 

[r77r7r]

Provari is a fine start. Don't Need VW settings, in fact you might prefer VV sometimes. Carto tanks are personal preference, might like them- might like a clearo/atty.

Welcome and congrats!!!

 

[Bunnykiller]

VV is like driving your car with the cruise control off. As you approach a hill you need to press the gas pedal ( voltage) a tad to keep the speed ( watts) the same. ( as coils age the resistance can change a tad). VW is compared to driving with the cruise control on, as the coils resistance changes the voltage adjusts automatically.
its just a matter of how you look at things I suppose.

 

[shazyzen]

VV is like driving your car with the cruise control off. As you approach a hill you need to press the gas pedal ( voltage) a tad to keep the speed ( watts) the same. ( as coils age the resistance can change a tad). VW is compared to driving with the cruise control on, as the coils resistance changes the voltage adjusts automatically.
its just a matter of how you look at things I suppose.

Thanks Bunnykiller, I like your analogy. So would I be right in saying that a VW is kind of the lazier option- not meaning to sound rude or snobbish towards VW users. But from what I am now gathering (thanks to your posts BTW) it seems both will achieve the same goal but the VW kind of does sets the voltage for you.

If that's the case I'd like to try a VW also, but I am so thrilled I bought a Provari- been thinking about it for ages...

 

[shazyzen]

Provari is a fine start. Don't Need VW settings, in fact you might prefer VV sometimes. Carto tanks are personal preference, might like them- might like a clearo/atty.

Welcome and congrats!!!

Thanks r77r7r, I appreciate your post. Yep I am wrapped to become a Prvari'ist soon-

 

[K_Tech]

I've seen many posts calling a VW device a "set and forget" piece of gear, and I'll just say that regardless of whether I'm on a VV or a VW device, my vaping needs change quite often throughout the day. The 8 watts I was enjoying with my coffee just doesn't cut it by lunchtime, and the 3.7 volts I had set before bed needs to be turned up a few notches when I roll out of bed for a vape.

 

[shazyzen]

I've seen many posts calling a VW device a "set and forget" piece of gear, and I'll just say that regardless of whether I'm on a VV or a VW device, my vaping needs change quite often throughout the day. The 8 watts I was enjoying with my coffee just doesn't cut it by lunchtime, and the 3.7 volts I had set before bed needs to be turned up a few notches when I roll out of bed for a vape.

Thanks K Tech, I'll keep this in mind when I fall out of bed in the morning. Lol. Seriously though, I never realized you ought to tinker to get the best vaping experience. I cant wait to give it a whirl when my Provari arrives. BTW- I like coffee Flavor too and I don't drink coffee- funny hey. Vaping sure is a learning curve. Everytime I come here I learn so much. Not enough hours in the day (its already midnite in in Aus'). Must retire soon- but I'll have a choc' Vape first of course.

If your still there K-Teck- you seem rather experience and since you say you use both VW and VV devices; what would be your preference or do you like both equally, at different times... I'm strating to think I may have to get a VW soon too. Boy this lifestyle can be expensive initially- but I know it will Pay for itself soon enough. Cheers.

 

[zanedog]

I have Innokin products that are variable wattage and a Provari that is Variable Voltage.

V2/R gives you watts if you wish to do the math.

I operate both VW and VV the same way, I turn them up and down until I find the vape I like.

When I get bored, I change it.

I don't think one is better than another.

Variable Voltage you are controlling the input, like a dimmer switch on your wall.

Variable Wattage you are setting the output directly, the chipset detects the resistance and calculates the required voltage.

LOL, someone needs to invent a variable resistance atomizer.

 

[Ohm-y-Gosh]

I'm a relative newcomer to the world of vaping and have delved a little into trying to understand the relationship of voltage and wattage (especially since acquiring my new Provari a week ago). I have discovered that many folk like to vape at a certain wattage, say for example 12Watts. Since the Provari doesn't use watts to adjust it's output, I wanted to know how to adjust the votage to acheive a certain wattage. Someone with more knowledge may correct me, but for a given atty resistance you square the votage and divide by the atty resistance. So, to acheive 12 watts on a 2 Ohm coil the calculation would be:-

Watts = (voltage x voltage) divided by atty resistance

which when transposed is:-

Watts x atty resistance = voltage squared

12 x 2 = 24

so the square root of 24 is the required voltage...in this case 4.89V

 

[zanedog]

The math is correct, you got it!

 

[K_Tech]

Thanks K Tech, I'll keep this in mind when I fall out of bed in the morning. Lol. Seriously though, I never realized you ought to tinker to get the best vaping experience. I cant wait to give it a whirl when my Provari arrives. BTW- I like coffee Flavor too and I don't drink coffee- funny hey. Vaping sure is a learning curve. Everytime I come here I learn so much. Not enough hours in the day (its already midnite in in Aus'). Must retire soon- but I'll have a choc' Vape first of course.

Tinkering with settings is just something I do; honestly, you may find that you love 8.5 watts all day long, everyone's different.

If your still there K-Teck- you seem rather experience and since you say you use both VW and VV devices; what would be your preference or do you like both equally, at different times... I'm strating to think I may have to get a VW soon too. Boy this lifestyle can be expensive initially- but I know it will Pay for itself soon enough. Cheers.

At the risk of sounding like I'm copping out, yes, I like both equally at different times. Really, the only VV devices I have are my Provari and my Ego Spinners. Usually the spinners are in my backpack with a spare tank and juice in standby condition in case something bad happens, lol.

(Not experienced, just collecting vape gear!)

When I go to work, I usually have two devices set up with tanks along for the ride (and the Ego).

One of those devices is usually my Provari. The other one is usually some sort of VV/VW mod.

I won't say that I get bored with a setup, but I'll get an itch to bring something else along for the ride once or twice a week, so I switch things out pretty regularly.

 

[patruck825]

New member here too! been looking into the provari as well as a couple others and the analogies definitely cleared up a lot of confusion for me. Might place my order today and send my spinner with protank mini II into the backup drawer.

 

[shazyzen]

I'm a relative newcomer to the world of vaping and have delved a little into trying to understand the relationship of voltage and wattage (especially since acquiring my new Provari a week ago). I have discovered that many folk like to vape at a certain wattage, say for example 12Watts. Since the Provari doesn't use watts to adjust it's output, I wanted to know how to adjust the votage to acheive a certain wattage. Someone with more knowledge may correct me, but for a given atty resistance you square the votage and divide by the atty resistance. So, to acheive 12 watts on a 2 Ohm coil the calculation would be:-

Watts = (voltage x voltage) divided by atty resistance

which when transposed is:-

Watts x atty resistance = voltage squared

12 x 2 = 24

so the square root of 24 is the required voltage...in this case 4.89V

Hey Ohm-Y-Gosh, you're a genius! Sadly, I cant get my head around the maths- Seriously though, I recon you helped many Vaper's with your Einstein equation here. Thank you.

 

[zanedog]

Ohm's Law Calculator

 

[inanitydefined]

you made a good choice with the provari. VW is just a different way of calculating the same power. it isn't any better, though it is easier.

 

[bacc.vap]

Ohm's Law Calculator

^^^^This. If you have the atty ohms and voltage you like for any particular liquid, just plug those two factors into the calculator and it'll give you the watts. Then when using a VW device you can use that wattage as a starting point. May still need slight adjustment as all devices are not necessarily synchronized electrically.

 

[tylrcrch]

Your flavor isn't going to be coming from the device, it'll be coming from your tank. If you like tons of flavor, getting an rba or rta like the Kayfun would be the way to go. That being said, you also have to learn to build your own coils, but to me, that seems worth it in the long run. Hope that helps.