What's the point?

[IntelligentDesigner]

Some of us are used to spending $4-500 a month on cigarettes, next to that a one time shot for what, $150 for a provari is chump change

$150 is chump change compared to $4/month? If I only spent $4/month on cigarettes, I wouldn't've seen the need to quit smoking.

To the point of the post, this is sooooo not the response I got when I asked the same question. People were all over me like white on rice on a paper plate and a glass of milk in a snowstorm. They were all like, "How DARE you question the ProVari?!?! Burn him at the stake!!!!"

 

[Neofolis]

A lot of vapers, myself included, seem to be on a quest for that perfect vape. It's a somewhat futile quest because new products and juices are coming out far faster than any of us would be able to purchase and try them. Even for those who are not on that quest, most change the products they use relatively frequently, compared to most things in their lives. Maybe it's because we are feeding our nicotine addiction and even when we are happy with what we have we want something better, to be able to feed that addiction better. I don't know, it's probably different from person to person. I like quality products in most things, I usually find that despite the higher initial outlay, they save me money, by lasting longer and not needing repairing or replacing and, as well as that saving, I have a better experience using the product. My vaping habits change so frequently that my Provari only got regular use for a couple of weeks, but I still have no regrets about buying it and I know that it will still be used from time to time for a good while yet and without knowing what new atomizer technology may be on the horizon, it may get regular use again at some time in the future.

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

Honestly, go mechanical.

You control every aspect of your experience...no LED/button/screen will ever allow the freedom of manual combinations.

 

[Faylool]

I'm not going read everybody's posts because I feel you are sitting at an advantage right ow. That is you can wait for the next "Provaris" that will come out. Dig in and wait and see. I am. I won't buy another regulated mod until my Vamo dies. It will be interesting. But then m not rich so..... It wold be different if I had cash to throw around. I already throw around plenty as it is. Wait and see. I know what. Want pretty much and Vamo does it fine. So I guess I'd be springing for similar in a nicely smaller package and better quality everything.

Someone sell me on a high end device. I am currently using a Vamo and a Silverbullet as my two main mods. What's the point of a provari or a darwin? How is the performance better? I'm know I'm not the most knowledgeable person on the subject but it seems to me that if the device fires and activates the cartomizer etc how can the performance be enhanced? It seems like the quality of your tanks, cartos etc has more to do with your devices performance than the actual device. I'm not talking about build quality differences here with devices when it comes to how robust they are or how well they hold up to you dropping them on asphalt, straight up performance. I'm not sure if I got my point across here concisely so if I didn't please let me know so I can elaborate further.

 

[Abe_Katz]

Okay, I don't own a Provari. Its just out of my price range. If it wasn't, I'd buy one right now. That said, I don't see why the OP needs to be "sold" on a known high quality device if their cheaper model is working great for them now.

I liken PVs to cars. I find that non-vapers understand the concept better that way (and I have to justify spending more than 100 bucks at one time on vaping to Mrs Katz and she doesn't vape).

As I see it;

Njoy King (Disposable)/Blu e-cigs: Bicycle.

EGO/EGO Twist/Spinner: Economy mid-size. Like a Honda Civic or Toyota Carola. Gets the job done, is reliable and reasonably priced. If you treat it well will last a while.

Provari: Luxury Car. (Cadillac or maybe a BMW if you're wanting something sporty).

I would say if you want a provari, and can afford a provari get one. Those that have them love them. If you don't want one or can't afford one then don't get one. If you're like me and do want one but can't afford one--then don't get one.

Pretty simple really.

 

[Rocketpunk]

If you're like me and do want one but can't afford one--then don't get one.

Do NOT give up hope. A Provari could one day be in your hands. The only reason -- the one reason only -- I was able to afford a Provari was because I had an amazing tax return and I'm single with no baggage.

If it wasn't for that tax return, I'd still be wanting one.

To hold one that is your very own is an experience.

If you're like me, you'll even name it.

Mine is Tronimus II.

 

[JudeaB]

I always preferred the PC over the Mac and think this discussion is along the same lines. Performance is regulated by skill rather than components! Me, I am happy with my KGO, Vision and S.I. batts partnered with CE's and a good EJuice. Cheers and Vape on!

 

[Abe_Katz]

Do NOT give up hope. A Provari could one day be in your hands. The only reason -- the one reason only -- I was able to afford a Provari was because I had an amazing tax return and I'm single with no baggage.

If it wasn't for that tax return, I'd still be wanting one.

To hold one that is your very own is an experience.

If you're like me, you'll even name it.

Mine is Tronimus II.

Lucky you. When (not if), but when, I get a provari, chances are it will be because they've come down in price or I managed to get lucky on a deal. I can't really spend over 100 bucks on a mod on a whim--that has to be justified to the old lady. We have debts and household expenses and so on (and I don't want to hear the fuss I'll get if I mess up her budget, I like peace in my house when I come home from work so I keep the peace and stick to the budget). And as I said she isn't a vaper, and never smoked so she doesn't understand sometimes.

I don't really need one, my egos work well for me. I want the provari, I don't actually need it. Just like I want a brand new red Ferrari but don't actually need one.

 

[Rocketpunk]

Lucky you. When (not if), but when, I get a provari, chances are it will be because they've come down in price or I managed to get lucky on a deal. I can't really spend over 100 bucks on a mod on a whim--that has to be justified to the old lady. We have debts and household expenses and so on (and I don't want to hear the fuss I'll get if I mess up her budget, I like peace in my house when I come home from work so I keep the peace and stick to the budget). And as I said she isn't a vaper, and never smoked so she doesn't understand sometimes.

I don't really need one, my egos work well for me. I want the provari, I don't actually need it. Just like I want a brand new red Ferrari but don't actually need one.

Very wise words.

Also, remember, Mod Envy is very real, but it's just like any other toy or gadget. I wanted an iPad, but I got a Kindle Fire instead and I LOOOVE it. Would I love an iPad even more? Probably. But I don't NEED it. My Kindle Fire is doing everything I want it to do.

Ain't no shame in an eGo. Rock it.

 

[D4rk50ul]

I can't convince you to buy a high end vv/vw mod because unless you never plan on using an RBA it's a waste.

Buying a solid mech with rba on the other hand gives you a nearly indestructible device that outperforms anything out there. I personally rock a Reo and hornet right now for my favorite and nothing comes close to what it packs in such a compact size. With about 10 minutes of time practicing you can wrap a sub 1ohm coil and be exhaling enough vapor to fog up your room.

 

[Baditude]

I still have not been able to understand the advantage of the sub- 1 ohm coil on an RBA and mechanical mod. I own both a Silver Bullet and a Provari. I bought my first AGA T2 with full intentions of putting it on the Bullet. But after trying that setup and then using the AGA on my Provari, I found that I still prefer being able to adjust the voltage according to the flavor of the juice I happen to be using (I change flavors frequently).

 

[D4rk50ul]

I still have not been able to understand the advantage of the sub- 1 ohm coil on an RBA and mechanical mod. I own both a Silver Bullet and a Provari. I bought my first AGA T2 with full intentions of putting it on the Bullet. But after trying that setup and then using the AGA on my Provari, I found that I still prefer being able to adjust the voltage according to the flavor of the juice I happen to be using (I change flavors frequently).

When setup correctly due to the fact that no matter how much power you put through it the wick keeps up you get full flavor every hit.

It's like having the best of all world's, but it takes practice and the right setup to make them work great. VV/VW is still best for mass produced burners.

95% of the reason you "tailor" the voltage to a particular juice is because certain juices don't handle heat as well and the wick dries out faster. When that problem is eliminated you can switch to any flavor (as I do) on the same SLR coil and get a great vape.

 

[jtpjc]

Haha, keep telling yourself that. Shiny fast car or shiny big PV, the chicks thing you're compensating either way.

Yes, The chicks are onto us. That's why I love my eGo and my bicycle. They realize I must be seriously UNDERcompensating.

 

[Txrider]

$150 is chump change compared to $4/month? If I only spent $4/month on cigarettes, I wouldn't've seen the need to quit smoking.

To the point of the post, this is sooooo not the response I got when I asked the same question. People were all over me like white on rice on a paper plate and a glass of milk in a snowstorm. They were all like, "How DARE you question the ProVari?!?! Burn him at the stake!!!!"

Most people would read $4-500 as it was intended as $400 to $500 per month, a 2 pack a day habit here where I live with the combined taxes on a pack taking them to about $7 a pack.

I'm not a provari owner, probably never will be even though I can easily afford one, but I definitely do see the point of one, and from a technical standpoint I do believe they are likely the best power supply for an atomizer on the market today, at least that I have seen..

But I also drive a 17 year old car and own no jewelry at all, not even a watch, do not adorn myself with tattoos, and never wear anything more fancy than old jeans and a t-shirt unless someone dies or gets married. What I have is perfectly satisfactory for my vaping and keeps me off cigarettes. It's even more satisfactory than a provari -for me- because anything the provari offers to me are more than made up for by the drawbacks in its size for me. Nothing that size works with my lifestyle for portability and ease of use I require.

But I certainly won't question someone for whom it does work better for their lifestyle and needs.

Any more than I would expect them to question why I have a 1954 truck I invested 10k in rebuilding by hand, or the three motorcycles parked in my shop. It comes down to want, not need.

Now if I were to decide to seriously start experimenting with a lot more tanks and attys, and especially if I was to decide to try to create my own and experiment with different wick materials and coil materials etc. I would then have a need for something like a provari and would likely buy one. It could happen, if I get tired of my current wants that I do not really need like working on the antique truck, the 3 bikes, and the 11 acre place I moved onto recently that has more projects lined up for me than I can complete in a few years of effort.

 

[IntelligentDesigner]

$150 is chump change compared to $4/month? If I only spent $4/month on cigarettes, I wouldn't've seen the need to quit smoking.

Most people would read $4-500 as it was intended as $400 to $500 per month, a 2 pack a day habit here where I live with the combined taxes on a pack taking them to about $7 a pack.

Now if I were to decide to seriously start experimenting with a lot more tanks and attys, and especially if I was to decide to try to create my own and experiment with different wick materials and coil materials etc. I would then have a need for something like a provari and would likely buy one. It could happen, if I get tired of my current wants that I do not really need like working on the antique truck, the 3 bikes, and the 11 acre place I moved onto recently that has more projects lined up for me than I can complete in a few years of effort.

I know; I was just being a smart... with the $4 thing. Sarcasm: one of the many services I offer.

I'm with ya. Per my interest in being somewhat of a vaping collector, I might have a ProVari on the shelf one day. But if I had the choice, I'd take three motorcycles in the garage of my 11 acre estate over the ProVari too. And if that means I will never have a ProVari, so be it. I won't feel left out.

 

[eratikmind]

Someone sell me on a high end device. I am currently using a Vamo and a Silverbullet as my two main mods. What's the point of a provari or a darwin? How is the performance better? I'm know I'm not the most knowledgeable person on the subject but it seems to me that if the device fires and activates the cartomizer etc how can the performance be enhanced? It seems like the quality of your tanks, cartos etc has more to do with your devices performance than the actual device. I'm not talking about build quality differences here with devices when it comes to how robust they are or how well they hold up to you dropping them on asphalt, straight up performance. I'm not sure if I got my point across here concisely so if I didn't please let me know so I can elaborate further.

After having thought about this topic for a bit, I have a question for the OP. You have noted that you are currently using a Vamo and a Silver Bullet, which are excellent mods . . . What was in your vaping equation, which prompted you to make these two purchases? An ego platform would have been fine. I have a couple my ego styled batteries, myself, and plan to continue using them.

 

[Cptfunpants]

Let's get down to the essence of the vape though. Let's say I'm blindfolded. I'm vaping a provari/darwin at 4.2V and my Vamo at 4.2V with the exact same delivery system, can you tell the difference?

 

[Cptfunpants]

I would also like to point out that I was not a 4-500 a month smoker. I was a casual smoker at best, pipes cigars etc. I just did this as a healthier alternative, in all honesty I am spending more on vaping than I ever did on my pipes.

I like the car analogy to a point, sure the porche looks nicer than a toyota but porche will definitely be a nicer drive.

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

I still have not been able to understand the advantage of the sub- 1 ohm coil on an RBA and mechanical mod. I own both a Silver Bullet and a Provari. I bought my first AGA T2 with full intentions of putting it on the Bullet. But after trying that setup and then using the AGA on my Provari, I found that I still prefer being able to adjust the voltage according to the flavor of the juice I happen to be using (I change flavors frequently).

I have never owned an electronic device--I'm a tinkerer and an experimenter. I have never found any of my friends "VV/VW" devices to up to par with my sub 1 ohm silica builds. In fact, my friends are trying like hell to replicate my vape, and are just getting frustrated. THey offer me loads of cash for my GG/Poldiac/Ody/Penny set-ups because their AGA-T/Cobra/ZAU cannot fulfill like my all mechanical low ohm builds.

It's a matter of taste. I would go crazy with anything below 20 watts. I vape 0-6mg juice--I technically can just stop vaping, but I enjoy the hot sweet steam. I've gone days without a vape (from 2 PAD over a year ago).

I just love the blast of heat and the clouds of vapor I get going mechanical and sub 1 ohm.

Everyone has their ideal spot, as well as money situations, as well as their place in the kicking the cigarette habit.

Once you are free and clear of the risk of relapse, it becomes a game for many (including me) to see how far we can push it.

 

[Txrider]

I know; I was just being a smart... with the $4 thing. Sarcasm: one of the many services I offer.

I'm with ya. Per my interest in being somewhat of a vaping collector, I might have a ProVari on the shelf one day. But if I had the choice, I'd take three motorcycles in the garage of my 11 acre estate over the ProVari too. And if that means I will never have a ProVari, so be it. I won't feel left out.

LOL, I wouldn't call it an estate, it's 11 acres on a dead end gravel road in the middle of nowhere. It was abandoned when the last owner died in 2005, he was a hoarder, lived in a tiny little cabin that looks like the unibomber shack, with a barn stuffed full of junk from floor to ceiling and I had to clean the place up. I bought an old 1950 era farm house for $25k including the move from where it was to my place and basically need to redo every wall, ceiling, floor and the siding. But I only owe about 40k on the place with 11 acres and a 1900sq ft house, got a steal of deal on everything, and someday after tons of elbow grease it'll be worth way more than I'll have into it.

Like I said I have a lot of projects to keep me too busy to get into mods and provaris for a good long time. The huge savings from not smoking 2 packs a day is a great plus, it basically pays my mortgage payment, well all but about $100 of it..