What's under your lip/in your nose right now?

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sunset

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Wow, people, talk about going off your meds.:D I've been up 3.5 hours this morning and totally forgot to take a snus, since I've been using so much snuff since I got up...can't believe I forgot it!

Have I been super irritable - I mean angry -wow. Guess that WOS situation didn't help. Yikes, just popped one in my mouth and in 3-5 minutes I'm a different person.

This is the 1st time since last October I haven't gotten one the 1st thing in the morning and I know it's because I didn't have any cravings at all which is usually my trigger...which had to be because of the snuff. Then I'm sitting here thinking why am I so angry this morning, that's when it hit me that I forgot the snus-wow.

Well, this won't happen again.:) Talk about needing those WTA!! Crazy, I know because I'm well aware of that, just more so now.

Just glad I'm in a forum that I can talk and share these things.

PS This doesn't mean I'm going through with the Wilson thing, I still want the cheaper freight:D
 
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Morning all

Sick as a dog here this morning. Ears plugged up I feel like I got a goldfish bowl full of water on my head. Head feels clogged but the wierd thing is my nose is fine. Did not get much sleep and for now I am staying home today. Going back to bed here in a minute.

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Snuffing a little of my mixture, White,Black and Ganga
 

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LOL - look like Tricia who sent my e-mail @ 4:48, didn't get the 'interoffice memo' about accepting personal/bank cheque...so that's good to know, Vaporer.:D

I'm still hanging out here rethinking, not one word was acknowledged about my e-mail on not wanting air freight, when I thought it was a website glitch to begin with that I didn't get offered the lower freight. A little lacking in consumer relations even though they are new at this...hmmm.

Almost $37 for a 3-3.5 pound order is over the top for me. Well, still debating these freight charges and what I'll do.

Divide the total cost, including s/h by the total grams of the order for your cost per gram.

When you consider that purchase of 10g to 25g tins from nicotinerush or mrsnuff will work out to anywhere from $0.20 to as much as $1.04 per gram you may find that that $37 freight cost is not so bad.
As for the amount your being charged, well your order is about twice the weight of mine and the charge is about double.....

Even with the additional expense of mailing a cashiers check that cost me $7 I'm still realizing a net cost per gram of $0.072. And if you've not had snuff "fresh from the mill" believe me when I say the difference is world shaking!

Future trade with WoS direct at everyday prices is iffy at best. I did a breakdown earlier here comparing comparable orders between WoS and MrSnuff. WoS came out less expensive overall then MrSnuff due to the lower product price.

That breakdown did not include the additional $6 fee they want to assess for taking a check in payment. With that included it is still cheaper to go through WoS if your order amount is over a 100g and in larger containers. 25g or bulk drums equals less weight from packaging.

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sunset

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Divide the total cost, including s/h by the total grams of the order for your cost per gram.

When you consider that purchase of 10g to 25g tins from nicotinerush or mrsnuff will work out to anywhere from $0.20 to as much as $1.04 per gram you may find that that $37 freight cost is not so bad.
As for the amount your being charged, well your order is about twice the weight of mine and the charge is about double.....

Even with the additional expense of mailing a cashiers check that cost me $7 I'm still realizing a net cost per gram of $0.072. And if you've not had snuff "fresh from the mill" believe me when I say the difference is world shaking!

Future trade with WoS direct at everyday prices is iffy at best. I did a breakdown earlier here comparing comparable orders between WoS and MrSnuff. WoS came out less expensive overall then MrSnuff due to the lower product price.

That breakdown did not include the additional $6 fee they want to assess for taking a check in payment. With that included it is still cheaper to go through WoS if your order amount is over a 100g and in larger containers. 25g or bulk drums equals less weight from packaging.

Coffee
WoS Jasmine alternating with WoS Grand Cairo

Ohhh, and those words have been echoing in my brain ever since I started this - LOL.

And you're so right about the cost, I just refigured on 25 grams what I would pay = $247.00 vs $92.00.
(3.1 pounds=1406 grams x .176 (25gram tin)=$247.00) plus shipping.

Yikes, I have a bargain! (and lotsa snuff) :D OK, I'm sending an e-mail and ask about Personal Check like Vaporer was told this a.m., else it's a certified check.
 

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Wow, people, talk about going off your meds.:D I've been up 3.5 hours this morning and totally forgot to take a snus, since I've been using so much snuff since I got up...can't believe I forgot it!

Have I been super irritable - I mean angry -wow. Guess that WOS situation didn't help. Yikes, just popped one in my mouth and in 3-5 minutes I'm a different person.

This is the 1st time since last October I haven't gotten one the 1st thing in the morning and I know it's because I didn't have any cravings at all which is usually my trigger...which had to be because of the snuff. Then I'm sitting here thinking why am I so angry this morning, that's when it hit me that I forgot the snus-wow.

Well, this won't happen again.:) Talk about needing those WTA!! Crazy, I know because I'm well aware of that, just more so now.

Just glad I'm in a forum that I can talk and share these things.

PS This doesn't mean I'm going through with the Wilson thing, I still want the cheaper freight:D

Sunset, I'm the same way. I usually go until after noon before I use any nic at all, but I notice I start to get somewhat pissy depending on what time I wake up vs. an specific hour in the afternoon if I haven't had any. The strange thing is... I don't really crave any nic, I just want to stop being aggravated at everything. It surprises me sometimes, and every now and then I just skip it like today, I had a coffee and some nic this morning.

I'm about to get ready for work. I got my e-mail from WoS. It doesn't sound too bad. Works out to about $.14 a gram for me. If I can get away with sending them a check with no charge I'll just do that. I can send it to the address on the bottom of the e-mail right?
 

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... I got my e-mail from WoS. It doesn't sound too bad. Works out to about $.14 a gram for me. If I can get away with sending them a check with no charge I'll just do that. I can send it to the address on the bottom of the e-mail right?

Wilsons & Co. (Sharrow) Ltd.
P.O. Box 32
Sharrow Mills
Sheffield S11 8PL
United Kingdom

Thats the correct address Kis. Just send em' a check in the amount specified in the e-mail you received.

I included a copy of the Order confirmation and follow-up amount confirmation e-mails when I sent my check in.
 
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Vaporer

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sunset,
I told you it was still a good deal. I wouldn't intentionally mislead you. You know that I hope.
Actually, the way it works out is the larger the order is and the more .5lb or larger items that are ordered the more that is saved. Anything less that the "Large" (25gm tins) would not be a good buy even at 50% off. As is they are way more expensive per gm than the .5lb bucket.

I'm keeping my order in.
I just heard from Carol and now she mentioned the $6 charge (due to their bank).
Here is my response to her.

Carol,

Thank you again for the quick response.

That should be posted so people know what to expect and not have unknown delays or unforseen added costs.
If I have the bank issue me an actual "Bank Check" then no extra $6 charge? I have to pay extra for the bank check.
Bank to Bank direct transfers from the USA to the UK are $30-$60 each!
That can be more than the cost of the entire order including shipping.

A direct online payment method should be added to your site along with a currency conversion or a "Select your Country" pull down that displays the charges in the purchasers currency to avoid all the confusion. Many sites have this and it makes orders hassle free.

The check with the order number should be mailed to?

Wilsons & Co. (Sharrow) Ltd.
P.O. Box 32
Sharrow Mills
Sheffield S11 8PL
United Kingdom

Thank You
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sunset,
I told you it was still a good deal. I wouldn't intentionally mislead you. You know that I hope.
Actually, the way it works out is the larger the order is and the more .5lb or larger items that are ordered the more that is saved. Anything less that the "Large" (25gm tins) would not be a good buy even at 50% off. As is they are way more expensive per gm than the .5lb bucket.

I'm keeping my order in.
I just heard from Carol and now she mentioned the $6 charge (due to their bank).
Here is my response to her.

Carol,

Thank you again for the quick response.

That should be posted so people know what to expect and not have unknown delays or unforseen added costs.
If I have the bank issue me an actual "Bank Check" then no extra $6 charge? I have to pay extra for the bank check.
Bank to Bank direct transfers from the USA to the UK are $30-$60 each!
That can be more than the cost of the entire order including shipping.

A direct online payment method should be added to your site along with a currency conversion or a "Select your Country" pull down that displays the charges in the purchasers currency to avoid all the confusion. Many sites have this and it makes orders hassle free.

The check with the order number should be mailed to?

Wilsons & Co. (Sharrow) Ltd.
P.O. Box 32
Sharrow Mills
Sheffield S11 8PL
United Kingdom

Thank You
------------------------------------------------------------------

StoneWall Java
Menthol snuff(rustica)
Coffee



I got an e-mail from Carol also stating a $6 charge for checks. With the additional charge it works out to $.08 per gram. Still not too bad. I'm going to send in a personal check today. I'm glad I'm not in a hurry to get this.

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sunset

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sunset,
I told you it was still a good deal. I wouldn't intentionally mislead you. You know that I hope.
Actually, the way it works out is the larger the order is and the more .5lb or larger items that are ordered the more that is saved. Anything less that the "Large" (25gm tins) would not be a good buy even at 50% off. As is they are way more expensive per gm than the .5lb bucket.

I'm keeping my order in.
Vaporer, OMG, of course, I know that! I just got hung up on the postage cost. :D

So I've send her an e-mail to ask both questions(vbg) - sending a personal check and lower shipping/maybe not, but I asked again.:) I already have so much Wilson's, it if takes a month to get to me, I'm fine.

Either way I'll do something check wise. Darn, hate to miss out on that fresh from the mill. I've been snuffing all those Wilson's I've ordered daily-OMG, they're so good. And I got the Rose that's so great to mix with other snuffs, too. No, I'll regret it more if I don't go through with it, I know.;)
 

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I agree all. sunset, I didn't mean to offend you! lol
WoS didn't do their homework for the launch that's evident.
If I was in a hurry or as I said it was a new supplier. I'd drop it like a hot potato. :grr:
But, as long as it beats the CrapPact date it's just a good deal on large orders and I like the WoS line for having a good flavor. Not a chemical artificial taste, at least not in my favorites.

The long term storage link OTD posted is very good and interesting. Snuff does way better storaging than snus. Just keep it dark, cool(not even fridged), air tight and you are good to go. :)
I'm not going to open my tubs till I have to and at that point I will have enough airtight containers to split it down to more reasonable sizes for personal use. Packed tight also. ;)
WoS tins have the vinyl tape around the seam to keep them airtight till opened.

WoS does make a good snuff IMO, even to blend with, and so does Toque on a couple. Especially the Quit or SP if you want to add more kick. Toques 50gm economy bags are just double clear plastic bags. The inner one has very little air, like their Rustica leaf and the outside baggie seems just to be a safety overpack. Opening the outer bag, you can get a strong smell of the inner bags content.

According to OTD's finding this isn't the best condition for storage. Some plastic bags are classified as "non-breatheable". Like the "Daisy Seal a Meal". It even vacuums the air out prior to sealing. :thumbs: This appears to be acceptable to me if just kept in a dark box and not stored where the temps may be high. The fridge or freezer should be fine too as the bags are designed for that. Seems like a good economical solution for snuff and SnusX bucket breakdowns.

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I agree all. sunset, I didn't mean to offend you! lol
WoS didn't do their homework for the launch that's evident.
If I was in a hurry or as I said it was a new supplier. I'd drop it like a hot potato. :grr:
But, as long as it beats the CrapPact date it's just a good deal on large orders and I like the WoS line for having a good flavor. Not a chemical artificial taste, at least not in my favorites.

The long term storage link OTD posted is very good and interesting. Snuff does way better storaging than snus. Just keep it dark, cool(not even fridged), air tight and you are good to go. :)
I'm not going to open my tubs till I have to and at that point I will have enough airtight containers to split it down to more reasonable sizes for personal use. Packed tight also. ;)
WoS tins have the vinyl tape around the seam to keep them airtight till opened.

WoS does make a good snuff IMO, even to blend with, and so does Toque on a couple. Especially the Quit or SP if you want to add more kick. Toques 50gm economy bags are just double clear plastic bags. The inner one has very little air, like their Rustica leaf and the outside baggie seems just to be a safety overpack. Opening the outer bag, you can get a strong smell of the inner bags content.

According to OTD's finding this isn't the best condition for storage. Some plastic bags are classified as "non-breatheable". Like the "Daisy Seal a Meal". It even vacuums the air out prior to sealing. :thumbs: This appears to be acceptable to me if just kept in a dark box and not stored where the temps may be high. The fridge or freezer should be fine too as the bags are designed for that. Seems like a good economical solution for snuff and SnusX bucket breakdowns.

DIY Orange Mint SnusX
Ozona Presidential Snuff
Lemon Water


The only snuff that I would want and don't have in bulk is Toque Lime Toast. This would be the only snuff I would order in the near future, and I would probably order a 400 gram bag. The local Hobby Lobby sells glass containers that I think will be good for long term storage of snuff, so I will decant out of the bag and into one of these jars.

Right now I have over 50 grams of Lemon Grove and Irish High Toast, so the bulk order I place will nit be opened for some time. They will be going straight into a drawer for storage until I need them.

OTD and Vaporer, thanks for the info on storage. (and everything else for that matter)

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I just found out that I can do bank transfer... a whopping 45.00 later and its no longer a 50% off deal.
If I send a money order....lord knows if it will get there, with all that is going on....
or...im just being paranoyd and should send a money order...
advice anyone???

I personally would cancel the order as a money order is the same as cash, it could get lost in the mail but if for any reason you never recieve prod your just SOL.
 

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Pheewww! Glad that's fixed. Seems the WoS ordering saga is finally finding some resolution. The biggest drawback appears to be waiting on emails, but I think it'll prove-out to be a learning experience for Wilsons. They'll get it fine-tuned and will also probably go along the line of V's advice regarding currency conversion. Regardless of all the problems, it looks like everybody got a good deal overall :).

Experiencing happy thoughts and wishing dg a speedy recovery from her ailment with:

Thunder Original
H2O

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It's been another less than fun day here in Memphis. Glad to be back at the house with the dogs. They're seriously better company than most people I know! ;)

Calming down from the day with:
Smilin Menthol 24mg
General Mint
Ugly Mug Breakfast Blend coffee

And about to add a nose full of WoS Crumbs. Glad I didn't partake in the grand opening sale. Don't need my habits to have that much stress involved!
 

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i now have a total of 22 different snuffs...i really enjoy scotches i have 6 different ones. my favorite menthols are the hedges L260, McC O&G,.......ya know what...ill just say what i dont like.

the only one im not crasy about is the McC Anisette..im not a fan of licorice. and that was a mistake from MrSnuff...it was supposed to be the McC Apricot...i guess the person who packed the order didnt realize it...its cool tho

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