Thanks! Appreciate the welcome to the community!Hello and welcome to ecf
Thanks! Appreciate the welcome to the community!Hello and welcome to ecf
@Alex Ferrara
Unfortunately, half way through my response, google chrome stopped working and I lost everything that I wrote. So let's try this again.......lol. First off, I never said that Dicodes is the leader in any specific industry because they "have their hand" in other industries. Now, if you're asking for my opinion on who makes the best phone(s) on the market currently, I actually would say Samsung. Followed by Apple, Google, and Asus. However, that analogy is irrelevant because the reasoning behind that analogy is misplaced. On a side note, it seems that you're the type of person to twist people's words because you hate being corrected or, when someone tries to input some info that doesn't line up with your beliefs. Unless you're misinterpreting what I'm saying?
Once again, unless I'm misinterpreting what you're saying now, I never said that, "voltage and current limitations of a specific board does not void them from using low/high resistance coils.". I only said that those limitations and deficiencies would lead to an inferior vape. Especially in terms of performance and accuracy, for said chip. Who do you know that vapes at 48 watts on a 1.7 ohm coil?! Let alone close to 48 watts!? That analogy only makes sense if the scenario you have given, particularly the 48 watts on a 1.7 ohm coil, was sound. And it's NOT. Knowing that the vape industry has switched over to pod devices, do you honestly believe that there's more people vaping on low resistances and high wattage? Accounting for the people who vape on pod devices solely, that percentage far out numbers the amount of people who vape at low resistances (sub ohm vaping). Now add in the amount of people who prefer MTL vaping over DL on actual mods. I would say that vaping at higher resistances and lower watts, is at an all time high right now. I feel that this point can't even be debated.
Listen, we're adults here. You're more than capable of researching the differences yourself. It's ridiculous that in todays world, the world where everyone CAN'T live w/o their phones, people demand "proof" or "links" in order to judge ones credibility. Trying to cause inconveniences for me will not work. If you don't research it yourself, even though you should know the differences between the 2 (not that I'm perfect), and claim that I'm lying about said comment, then I've lost all hope with this discussion. Though, I'm pretty sure the info I gave you was sufficient.
So in other words, you never insinuated that the screen on a Dicodes device, is outdated or inferior? Your full statement was, "User interface is also drastically different between the 2. Navigating through a tiny screen is a daunting task to say the least. Being able to make adjustments, along with uploading customized themes with Evolv's Escribe software is so much easier." First off, the screen on the Dicodes No°6 and Dani Box 21700 is not as small as you think. Is it smaller than a "C" screen/display from Evolve? Yes. But it's roughly similar in size to a "regular" DNA screen when you factor in the dimensions. For example, it's shorter in length but, wider in width compared to a DNA75. The screens/displays on both of the Dicodes devices I've mentioned, are only used on the Dicodes devices themselves. Any custom mod manufacturer that uses a FL80 or BF60 Dicodes chip, utilizes a screen thats basically identical to a DNA75, in terms of size. Dicodes uses a specific compact display on purpose, in order to keep the size of the mod down and to keep things simplistic, in terms of design. Saying that, "its a daunting task", is purely subjective. Again, have you ever used or owned a Dicodes device before? To make such a claim, I would assume you've used and operated one of their devices. I would also like to apply that statement to a lot of your other claims, in terms of the performance and usability of a Dicodes device (or Dicodes powered device). As I've said before, not only has Dicodes been known to go the minimalist route but, I had one of the head honchos tell me personally, that if they wanted to go the color route (or any route), that it wouldn't too hard of an adjustment. It's truly not a HUGE task. Besides having a better picture quality (amongst several other things), an OLED does have an advantage over a TFT display in terms of the performance of a mod. And thats the fact that it draws/consumes LESS energy! Which translates to more vaping time, assuming that we're comparing mods with the same amount of batteries. Idk about you but, even if I gained only 2-5 minutes of vaping time, that's a lot of extra puffs. If I take 3-5 second puffs, that's 12-20 extra puffs per minute. And for the last time, the only reason why were in this whole screen/display debacle, is because YOU claimed that the DNA "C" screens were superior. If you didn't insinuate that, then why bother even making such a statement?
Dude, claiming that customization options for your screen is an advantage, is assuming that EVERYONE wants or cares about that. You're exaggerated example of "one car, one phone, one computer, etc." is OVERkill. You know why? Because theres hundreds, if not thousands, of vape devices to choose from. We don't live in the makeshift scenario that you provided. Although, the world is heavy on iphones and Tesla's right now lol. That said, there must be A LOT of people who like "one thing" (as you say) because Dicodes is highly regarded as one of the best, if not the best. You see, you act as if there's not thousands of people using a Dicodes device right now. That's excluding custom mods! I bet you any money that theres ALSO people on this forum, who preach the minimalist design and don't mind not having a customizable screen. Dicodes is highly customizable when it comes to performance and thats all that matters at the end of the day.
I mean, it's not rocket science. Im pretty sure I was fairly descriptive of why I said Replay is a form of TC in a sense. Despite having nothing to do with temperature, the reason I find both systems to have a similarity, is because both systems exist to further enhance our chances of receiving that "perfect" vape experience. Granted, TC dives in deeper but, it's more complicated when compared to Replay. With TC, you essentially have full control over your vape experience (with exceptions). Whereas Replay is based off a puff that you encountered (randomly or not) and prefered over your past puffs. Replay allows you to lock in that resistance curve so you can aquire that same hit (flavor, vapor, etc.) over and over again. I explained both in a very dumbed down fashion because I was under the impression that we both understood, what TC and Replay was all about. You are delusional if you think people haven't had issues with replay. You're acting as if Replay is some GOD-like function that can't be touched. When I stated that DNA's had a fairly high failure rate, I wasn't saying that it was ALL because of Replay mode. I was saying that DNA's have failed in several ways more than you'd care to admit. You act as if Replay is a seperate entity of the chip.
If you go and watch ANY credible YouTuber (Jai Haze for example) they will tell you the SAME exact thing I've told you. Not only that but, EVOLV THEMSELVES have stated the battery efficiencies of their chips. Do YOU know better than the people who design and make the chips? Manufacturers have to test those claims. Why would they admit to having chips that are better than one another? These efficiency ratings/claims are based off of an even playing field. If you took a DNA75C with a single 18650 and a Dicodes Dani Mini with the same single 18650, set them both to the same wattage and resistance, with both using the same atomizer, the same coils/wires, the same juice, and EVERYTHING else that you can possibly do the same on both devices, the Dani Mini will unquestionably come out on top. I had both a Lost Vape Mirage DNA75C (that I just got rid of) and my Dicodes Dani Box 21700. Both utilizing a Samsung 40T 21700 battery and both were vaped on the same wattage EACH time. I never had a day where I wasn't replacing the battery on the LV Mirage. With the Dani 21700, I was able to get into the next day with a little battery left over. Granted, I know that could be just a coincidence but, who knows.
The failure rate was NOT unknown. Once again, if I'm not mistaken, there was a Jai Haze video where he confirms this. We don't have to play the "do you have that bit of information" game when it was well recognized and accepted a couple of years ago. A little amount of research would serve you well. If you don't know why Dicodes is or would be the chip of choice in the EU overall, than I have nothing else to say.
Nothing wrong with that! Those are great choices. Being a "geek" though, a Dicodes device would suit you very well. The ONLY chips worth using nowadays, imho, are the DNA75C, DNA250C, and Dicodes FL80. Nothing compares to those three at the end of the day.. That said, thank you for welcoming me into the forum! Stay safe and stay vaping!!Welcome to ECF
The geek in me would go for a DNA60, 75C or 250C depending on application.
Stay safe.
WOW, that went off the rails. @Alex Ferrara - Do not understand why the condescending remarks. Especially when you state “we’re adults here”
I’ve tried to engage in conversation, and do so in a mature manor. Not once have I thrown a condescending remark your way, but yet that same respect was not returned by yourself with this last post. I have not twisted any words, but elaborated on the topic of discussion. Having an open discussion both of us could learn from one another, and others who maybe reading this thread may benefit as well.
You claim I am the type of person who twists peoples words because I hate being corrected. Quite the claim coming from someone who has gone to great extents trying to defend a screen on a mod that I supposedly said was inferior or outdated. “Navigating through a tiny screen is a daunting task ” does not equate to a screen being dated or inferior. I have no idea where you got that from, but yet you continue to bring it up. Your original post asked for peoples preference, I gave a preference, but was debated not once, but 3 times! Drop it!
I brought up Replay, you commented on it stating people claim it does not work. People also claim Temp Control does not work - that is a biased opinion because they do not understand or fail to put forth the efforts to make it work. Being biased is a human trait, accept it.
You brought up wattage’s drop off. I elaborated on this which is due to voltage and current limitations of the device. And gave an example of such limitations with my 1.7 ohm coil. It was an example, accept it as such. I could have given many others. Do the math, you’ll see for your self. And who vapes high resistance at high wattage? ME!!
No denying pods are popular – but the vape industry has not switched over to pods, they have incorporated pods as an addition to their current lineup. 510 type atomizers, mods in both regulated and mechanical are still being produced and sold. And pods are incorporating DTL functionality. Why would that be? If low wattage, high resistance is the growing trend, why would Dicodes produce a board capable of an 11 volt output? Instead of debating with me that MTL is the most popular and people do not vape high resistance with high wattage, why not accept the fact the companies such as Dicodes and Evolv are producing products to try and cater to many needs.
You brought up device efficiency. Excellent topic! But efficiencies are not a static number. This is also fact, and I would encourage you to research for yourself should you care. I further elaborated that objective measurements were needed to make a defining conclusion. This is how we scientifically come to a conclusive answer. But some how that is debatable.
Device failure rates are unknown. As stated, I am not privy to this information and I will not accept what Jai Haze claims as fact. And I am willing to bet many feel the same (ask peoples opinion on this forum about Mr Haze!). Devices fails, the rate at which they fail must be calculated by the manufacture and not an internet forum or some dramatic YouTube reviewer. That is just common sense.
Honestly, I feel this whole conversation has been a twisted mess of words taken out of context. I will engage in any conversation with you over any topic, be it vape devices or what my cat ate for breakfast. But as you said, we’re adults here so lets act like one and keep the condescending remarks out of it.
Explain to me how my response is "optimistic" ? You have yet to answer a CRUCIAL question. Have you ever used or owned a Dicodes? Anytime I made a legitimate point you ignored the statement and/or questions. I just need you to answer one of them, have you ever worked with a Dicodes device? I get you're an ECF Veteran and vaping master but, I don't think that makes it right to ignore questions and statements from someone with a lower "rank".
Carry on hurricaneYour continued attempts at debate (especially 2 days later) is disturbing to say the least.
ECF Veteran and Vaping Master are fun acknowledgements that ECF gives out when users meet certain criteria. Has nothing to do with their knowledge of vaping. And I have every right to ignore any question that has been posed toward me. I choose to ignore you not because you are right and I am wrong, but because I no longer wish to engage in conversation. Further attempts will be met by reporting you to the moderators and put on my ignore list.
The conversation has run it’s course. DROP IT!
You must not have experienced the thread over on VU a few years ago where he was extremely vile to some of the female members over there. Up to the point where he publicly posted the personal information (name, address, phone number etc.) of one of them in the thread.Most people that hate on Haze, hate on him because he covers a lot of high end devices and they dislike his type of humor.
Your continued attempts at debate (especially 2 days later) is disturbing to say the least.
ECF Veteran and Vaping Master are fun acknowledgements that ECF gives out when users meet certain criteria. Has nothing to do with their knowledge of vaping. And I have every right to ignore any question that has been posed toward me. I choose to ignore you not because you are right and I am wrong, but because I no longer wish to engage in conversation. Further attempts will be met by reporting you to the moderators and put on my ignore list.
The conversation has run it’s course. DROP IT!
Hey, that's fair. I get your point and I definitely don't condone, nor agree with that kind of behavior. There are two sides of a story though. Now, I was not aware of that exact instance but, I have seen and heard of other instances of Jai going off on people. Either way, what he did to that woman was wrong, no doubt.You must not have experienced the thread over on VU a few years ago where he was extremely vile to some of the female members over there. Up to the point where he publicly posted the personal information (name, address, phone number etc.) of one of them in the thread.
I have zero use for him and anything he has to say.
I appreciate the response. My post was predominantly aimed towards people's opinions and/or preferences, between the DNA75C/250C and Dicodes FL80 (or BF60 if need be). I do not claim to know everything on the matter, let alone EVERYTHING about vaping related material. I'm just as eager to learn, as I am willing to teach/inform.It could be just me, but after reading this thread I have a hard time believing that our new friend Alex here was looking for information that he believed he didn't already have
Oh no. I wasn't faulting you for your knowledge. I wasn't necessarily faulting you at all.I appreciate the response. My post was predominantly aimed towards people's opinions and/or preferences, between the DNA75C/250C and Dicodes FL80 (or BF60 if need be). I do not claim to know everything on the matter, let alone EVERYTHING about vaping related material. I'm just as eager to learn, as I am willing to teach/inform.
Thanks for the reply Anna! I don't know what it is but, EVERY Anna I've ever met or conversed with, has always been sweet and/or lively lol. And I definitely agree with you in terms of the quality control on the Mirage. It wasn't the worst but, it wasn't the best. Overall, LV made some of my favorite products as far as Chinese manufacturers go. Sad to see them produce pods exclusively, at the moment. Anyhow, the DNA75C is literally golden aside from it's mediocre power/battery efficiency. With a 21700 or 26650, you can kind of mitigate those inefficiencies but, it's definitely something worth noting. Other than that, it works and vapes like a dream (to your point).IDK the lost vape mirage vaped like a dream to be honest. But, it was kind of constructed out of gossamer leaf and like, spider's web or something. It was super disappointing the smoothest vape of my life, and well, the BOARD was fantastic but the mods were pretty much DUCT TAPE toward the end and I was like too ashamed to send them in dude, I kind of though my photo might be posted up on the Vaping Wall of Shame Somewhere.
Like I don't really know or care enough about the intricacies of what number of buttons to push where and how to get THAT much from your mod, but I will say Dicodes may well nigh be indestructible, and that is a nice thing to have if you ask me, once you are getting into higher priced mods.
Like I will ever, ever, EVER use the features of every single mod come on I know me.
Anna
No I understood you! Or at least, I thought I did at that moment. Thanks for the clarification anyways though. Makes me feel a little bit better lol. There's no reason to apologize AT ALL. I was stating my intentions of the post because I felt that you were suggesting or questioning that I was seeking knowledge on the two chipsets, when I already had knowledge on them. There's nothing wrong with your post. I was just clarifying.Oh no. I wasn't faulting you for your knowledge. I wasn't necessarily faulting you at all.
Your OP sounded like you were looking for knowledge and clearly your mind was made up before you started this thread. if I misunderstood then I apologize.