I think most folks are missing the OP's main point, which seemed to be "Grow up and stop flaming each other over what you use to vape". Now, personally I see less of that kind of thing on here than, well, ANY other forum I've ever seen. The vast majority of posters here seem to be genuinely trying to help, some more successfully than others. If there's a bit of fanboy hype over this device or that device, well, it's the nature of the beast. The genuine love of the product that people show and the near universal recognition of the quality of it kind of speaks for themselves, and if anyone spends more than a few minutes looking into the forums they will be able to separate the fanboy hype and its backlash from the more appropriate suggestions.