Whats with all the Provari hate?
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now it seems like the tide has turned in this thread. it's now becoming a provari love fest. not that there's anything wrong with that.....some of us just feel left out.
So anyone know when the updated ProVari is going to be released? There you go Kelli
it annoys the cows.
Shouldn't that be squonk? While dripping and driving is a bad plan, I think with practice walking and squonking might be acceptable. Oh, and it could be used as as insult too! Oscar is such a klutz he can't walk and squonk at the same time.
Cool! I need a new Panda recipe! Stir-fried Panda with baby bamboo shoots is getting really boring and there's 1/2 a Panda in the freezer.
I thought only girls could squonk? Guys dont have the right equipment
The Provari issue is result of pride.
Someone who pays a few hundred dollars never wants to say oops I made a mistake, and further more they will never admit it aloud. I am not saying the Provari is not the best, or is,for that matter. All I am saying is that people don't want to admit that there might be something better or even equal to what they purchased at half the cost. They want to think what they have is top of line. They will find a way to drop Provari into the conversation even when it is not relevant. Why because they are proud of the fact they own one. In fact they want everyone to know they own one.
Example: Some is looking for a cig size e-cig, someone will post, get a provari if you don't you will be sorry. This will make other posters angry. People who want a provari and cannot afford one, and people who will never want one, will take it as an insult.
You also have to add in the fanboy equation. People who find a good product and will stand behind that product no matter what. You see this in any industry. Cars and cell phones are a good example. People love Apple, and people hate Apple. Funny thing is people hate apple fanboys more than they hate apple.
I am not saying that either side is right. I am saying the Provari issue is normal. It happens all the time and will continue to happen. No one devise fits all. People want different things, and there will always be disagreements about who is right.
any thats just my
Someone who pays a few hundred dollars never wants to say oops I made a mistake, and further more they will never admit it aloud. I am not saying the Provari is not the best, or is,for that matter. All I am saying is that people don't want to admit that there might be something better or even equal to what they purchased at half the cost. They want to think what they have is top of line. They will find a way to drop Provari into the conversation even when it is not relevant. Why because they are proud of the fact they own one. In fact they want everyone to know they own one.
Example: Some is looking for a cig size e-cig, someone will post, get a provari if you don't you will be sorry. This will make other posters angry. People who want a provari and cannot afford one, and people who will never want one, will take it as an insult.
You also have to add in the fanboy equation. People who find a good product and will stand behind that product no matter what. You see this in any industry. Cars and cell phones are a good example. People love Apple, and people hate Apple. Funny thing is people hate apple fanboys more than they hate apple.
I am not saying that either side is right. I am saying the Provari issue is normal. It happens all the time and will continue to happen. No one devise fits all. People want different things, and there will always be disagreements about who is right.
any thats just my
Ok.. Here you go. I really did order one cause I wanted to see for myself because Ive been happy with my current Mod. Heres my thoughts
I just received in the mail, one Provari 2.5 Mini, One Tatroe Base, two Tatroe ext rings, Two AW 18500's and a Kanger Protank 2 (which is going in the drawer since Batitude turned me on to IBTanked and Ikenvape cartos)
My current "go to" mod is an SVD. (I have others, egos out the wazoo, MVP, Vamo, Spinners/twisters etc, Segeili mech)
My first impression of the Provari Ive been vaping on for two hours:
Its lighter than the SVD to my suprise (until I add the tatroe extension and expecially the base) (thats good) (base is not needed and shouldnt compare)
Its a tad shorter than the SVD, about an inch (thats good)
Its a higher grade of fit and finish as far as how the display is built inside the unit and is flush, SVD is screwed to the outside. The display is a better grade/pixel screen, the fire button is not a mechanical and I can tell. (This is good)
Does it vape better ? I cant tell yet, at this time I will say NO. I will keep you informed if I change my mind as I try Atomizers, and other delivery Tank ( I know, Its an 800MHZ processor VS China 33Mhz)
Is it more heavy duty as far as dropping and vibration, falls ? I would really have to say NO. The SVD is a built like a tank also. (opinion based on dropping SVD many times and riding in an open metal cup holder on Harley bouncing/vibrating on edge of metal holder for extended periods of time.
Do I think I will have any problems with the buttons ? Purely opinion, but I think the SVD mechanical buttons will go bad before the Provari goes bad. Its just the difference in the way they are built. Time will tell.
Does the SVD do more? Yes. The biggest thing the SVD has over the Provari is being able to read your OHMs and the teloscoping feature is a big plus (to me) just convenient.
Batteries..They should make it to use Flat top batteries. Big plus for SVD.
VV/VW... I mean.... really .... who cares. Use one or the other. If measurements were in a new form called Galutzaks, I would figure out how many Galutzaks I need to vape my 3 ohm or 1.5 Ohm coils.
BLIND TASTE TEST
I just let three different vapers that dont know what a Provari is and that DO NOT read the forum look at and vape the Provari, switched the Tank over to the SVD and back (twice each) and asked for opinions. All three thought they vaped the same, no difference. Two liked the look of the Provari better, one liked the look of the SVD better. (all three women if that mattered) The youngest , 21, liked the look of the SVD better, the other two that like the look of the provari are 30 and 53.
When unpacking, My first thought was: This Provari is a bit over priced but is nice and well made. I didnt like that I had to spend 30.00 more dollars to make it fit all three batteries ( these extensions should be included IMHO )....smart marketing, I know, I didnt spend an extra 15.00 for a blue LED. This still chaps my ... because they certainly dont pay an more for the screen color. The extensions and Color LED reminds me of crooked or high end car dealers charging extra for floor mats.
A bit of a personal gripe: They sent no Email saying thanks for the order or letting me know the order went through. After two days and no email, I finally went to the site and signed in just to make sure they got the order and it went through. It was shipped on the 5th day of ordering and I finally got an email yesterday letting me know they shiped my order. Even fasttech is promp on emails letting you know your order went through as does any other place I order from. OK, Gripe over.
So......bottom line. At this time, will I push people to get a Provari because its the best thing there is ? NO
Will I get on to people for telling noobs it is? YES
Is it the best made mode Ive used ? Yes
Will I send it back? NO
Will I use it instead the SVD? Yes
Which is a better value? The SVD
Which will I recomend to friends with no money concerns? Provari and some Egos
Would I buy another? I dont know, will get back to you on that.
Ive been as honest as I can be here. Sorry If I rambled too long, just trying to be thourough and really did want to give you my "out of the box" thoughts. Im not rich or anything but I am the guy that has spent over 12K in Chrome on my bike and it has done absolutely nothing for the performance nor has it made it any better. I just like it, so, 150 to 200 on a mod is just nothing to me.
Some one earlier said if both of these mods were 100 bucks each, which would you take ? It would be the Provari for me.
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So anyone know when the updated ProVari is going to be released? There you go Kelli
no need to try to placate me, dear. i have no useful purpose on this thread so i will be going. buh bye.
Someone send to visus a Reo
lets not complicate this send them both
@Ocelot
evic virus if sneeze with virus then you touch reinfecting youself
the software is programmable so that also can have issues
someone on the forum is working on rewriting the screen
send me one ill let you know fer sure
lets not complicate this send them both
@Ocelot
evic virus if sneeze with virus then you touch reinfecting youself
the software is programmable so that also can have issues
someone on the forum is working on rewriting the screen
send me one ill let you know fer sure
"I asked you out to dinner and a movie. When I said we were having dinner, I meant we would be having sex, and when I said we were going to a movie, I meant we would be filming it."
-The Ladies Man
I have baby hands. Half the fun for me is finding something that works great for my small hands and my vaping needs. I have kind of a funky little collection going. Why do I need a Provari mini? I have enough small battery devices sitting in front of me, and a rainbow of colors and flavors 
the one 18650 device I have is the K100, I know, it is an Empire CLONE out of Fast Tech, but it is light, and it fits my hand and comfy to use!
the one 18650 device I have is the K100, I know, it is an Empire CLONE out of Fast Tech, but it is light, and it fits my hand and comfy to use!
Of course lol.. i was just thinking someone may take this seriously ..
I LOVE ANIMALS!
Mmmm. Me too, many of them are soooo tasty!
The Provari issue is result of pride.
Someone who pays a few hundred dollars never wants to say oops I made a mistake, and further more they will never admit it aloud. I am not saying the Provari is not the best, or is,for that matter. All I am saying is that people don't want to admit that there might be something better or even equal to what they purchased at half the cost. They want to think what they have is top of line. They will find a way to drop Provari into the conversation even when it is not relevant. Why because they are proud of the fact they own one. In fact they want everyone to know they own one.
Example: Some is looking for a cig size e-cig, someone will post, get a provari if you don't you will be sorry. This will make other posters angry. People who want a provari and cannot afford one, and people who will never want one, will take it as an insult.
You also have to add in the fanboy equation. People who find a good product and will stand behind that product no matter what. You see this in any industry. Cars and cell phones are a good example. People love Apple, and people hate Apple. Funny thing is people hate apple fanboys more than they hate apple.
I am not saying that either side is right. I am saying the Provari issue is normal. It happens all the time and will continue to happen. No one devise fits all. People want different things, and there will always be disagreements about who is right.
any thats just my
Well, if you paid that for a ProVari, you made a mistake since a brand new 2.5 is 159 dollars from ProVape with a year warranty. For the last time, they are not any more expensive than that! For God's sake people!
I certainly agree it is not the best device for everyone. I recommend new users get two 650 twists (or spinners), two Evods, and a pack of replacement coils. I would never recommend someone start with a ProVari.
The Provari issue is result of pride.
Someone who pays a few hundred dollars never wants to say oops I made a mistake, and further more they will never admit it aloud. I am not saying the Provari is not the best, or is,for that matter. All I am saying is that people don't want to admit that there might be something better or even equal to what they purchased at half the cost. They want to think what they have is top of line. They will find a way to drop Provari into the conversation even when it is not relevant. Why because they are proud of the fact they own one. In fact they want everyone to know they own one.
Example: Some is looking for a cig size e-cig, someone will post, get a provari if you don't you will be sorry. This will make other posters angry. People who want a provari and cannot afford one, and people who will never want one, will take it as an insult.
You also have to add in the fanboy equation. People who find a good product and will stand behind that product no matter what. You see this in any industry. Cars and cell phones are a good example. People love Apple, and people hate Apple. Funny thing is people hate apple fanboys more than they hate apple.
I am not saying that either side is right. I am saying the Provari issue is normal. It happens all the time and will continue to happen. No one devise fits all. People want different things, and there will always be disagreements about who is right.
any thats just my
I disagree;-) Your saying if something is good its just a matter of opinion. Some products are made better than others. Performance, quality, craftsmanship. These things set one product apart from another. I dont think its a big conspiracy when thousands of people agree something is a cut above the rest.
Come on you really believe each person who bought a Provari is just saying its all of that to justify their purchase? Its really not all that expensive.
I can agree getting irritated when you say you want a inexpensive mod and some clown tells you get a Provari is not in any way helpful.
Now weather you think its worth the cost is 100% opinion. But if you compare a Provari in person next to pretty much any regulated mod in production today most will find it is made and preforms better.
I'm glad you will not be a fanboi. I bristle every time a nimrod insinuates that a product, any product, is the best thing on the market for every person; especially, when the OP didn't ask for the information and it may be beyond their budget and comfort level. To suggest to a new vaper that unless they buy XXX they will be throwing their money away, since they won't have a good vaping experience and may start smoking again, borderlines on cruel. People often forget how stressful it is to quit smoking and most new vapers have tried numerous times without success. Vaping may be the last option for them and they are understandably afraid it won't work. They may also be hesitant to spend a lot of money for something they don't have confidence in.
I quit smoking using a 650mAh standard eGo kit. I didn't even get a Twist for several months. If all of my cool toys were taken away and I only had the 650s left, that is still enough to keep me from smoking.
In some ways I was lucky not to have found ECF right away, since I would have been barraged with information I didn't understand. It's true not all new members are new to vaping, and even some that are have been reading the threads for awhile and are tech savvy. Great! They can use more advanced suggestions, but for others we need to listen to what they feel most comfortable with and will use, even if it's a cig-a-like. Having cig-a-likes or eGos in your arsenal is good for back-up - I still use mine in certain situations. If you notice, the majority of people who piss and moan about how much money they wasted before getting XXX are the ones who have bought mod after mod after mod, not the people who have gone from a Twist/Spinner to a better set-up. I would much rather have someone vaping while reading the threads and deciding what they want to get next, than be so overwhelmed they get even more stressed and not even start.
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