when the fda stop's the internet sale of juice

[Snus]

Looks what they are trying to do is to stop the use of credit cards to pay for this stuff..... That's what they first did with internet gambling. They finally outlawed it when they tacked it onto the border security bill they passed in the wee hours of the morning... never built a border fence, but wiped out the online casino industry in the US!

 

[sggonzo2003]

Gee,,,,,,, do ya' think Big Brother tobacco's involved in it!!!?

 

[twohandedcreations]

I believe it's the pharmaceutical companies that stand to suffer the greatest loss if electronic cigarettes continue to thrive in the manor in which they are currently!! They literally make billions of dollars annually treating smoking related illnesses. I believe that big tobacco companies are prepared to jump on the bandwagon and manufacture their own line Ecigs. So they could double dip by selling the disease and the cure. But even if just 50% of todays smokers were able to quit smoking and avoid becoming terminally ill, some really wealthy companies and CEO's would stand to lose fortunes!!!!

 

[echofinder]

Worst comes to worst, I will start a little tobacco patch, manually extract nic, and then drive around slanging juice on the corner... always wanted to be a gangster anyway.

 

[sggonzo2003]

I believe it's the pharmaceutical companies that stand to suffer the greatest loss if electronic cigarettes continue to thrive in the manor in which they are currently!! They literally make billions of dollars annually treating smoking related illnesses. I believe that big tobacco companies are prepared to jump on the bandwagon and manufacture their own line Ecigs. So they could double dip by selling the disease and the cure. But even if just 50% of todays smokers were able to quit smoking and avoid becoming terminally ill, some really wealthy companies and CEO's would stand to lose fortunes!!!!

Yessir,,, You're absolutely right
I wasn't thinking that deep, but You nailed it pretty close to home I believe
What I do know is that Big Tobacco sees this as a threat to their Monopoly and Dictatorship of the millions (billions?) of souls addicted to their death sticks (I was addicted to their Snus) and they're seeing how it took off in Europe/Asia and they're running scared
This is the only healthy alternative to using/quitting nicotine (next to the gum) and they know it
The pharmaceutical companies may perchance lose more, but I know Who's dead-on their heels on this one

 

[mariahpoo]

I have no clue what I am going to do. I will not buy tons now, even the little amount I had went bad in 3 months. SO... cluless here. Maybe I will not vape?

 

[frosting]

That's the main reason I'd want to get to 0mg. I'd worry about a relapse with no nicotine but I'm sure I could figure something out.

I think what I do is stolepile and freeze some, and only use nicotine juice when I'm driving. My issue is nicotine does help my ADD considerably when I'm driving. Without insurance i'm SOL on getting the meditation that would help my ADD so nicotine is my best solution. I truly am a bit of a scatterbrain. I may look more into extraction but quite frankly as you brought up, it's frigging dangerous particularly for people like myself who really don't know what they're doing.

Mariahpoo-- How did your nic go bad in 3 months? I'm pretty shocked by that. Maybe you could PM me the vendor so I know to steer clear?

 

[hairball]

I have no clue what I am going to do. I will not buy tons now, even the little amount I had went bad in 3 months. SO... cluless here. Maybe I will not vape?

Actually the juice itself didn't go bad. Bad juice will taste/smell like vinegar. The flavorings are what spoils. Cool/dark closet and out of direct sunlight is all you need. I have a couple bottles that are over a year old...best tasting stuff on the planet.

Since you're having spoilage problems, unflavored nic juice and some flavorings may be just what you need to look into. DIY is fairly simple to do. There are several ejuice calculators available on the web. Take a look-see and get on the DIY forum for recipes and to ask questions. Everyone is great on there and will help you out.

 

[elfstone]

yes, that is what my main juice supplier said in his forum. if i knew it was ok i would copy and paste what he said.

Why don't you just link? That is certainly ok...

 

[440BB]

This cloud hanging over vaping sure has slowed down retail development, possibly even big tobacco's entry. Maintaining a rotating stock of nic liquid is my way of feeling comfortable. I'll PIF it or trade it every six months or so and restock. Everything else should still be available. We're already sort of renegades, so a little more stealth should be pretty easy going forward. A check or money order in the mail will still work too. Speaking of paranoia, let's hope they don't shut down the postal service!