Why the surprise? Before I bought mine, I checked the classifieds for almost a week, there were IMO around 5-6 Provaris everyday being sold. Imagine how many are being sold by Provape combined with the memberbase of ECF. And oh I have never posted in the provape forum because its a simple device with less than average features, no confusion, no questions, but wont mind having a second device as a backup for sure...