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Where to buy VG & PG in Oz?

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  1. dinium

    dinium Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 23, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
  2. k.rad

    k.rad Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 7, 2010
    Adelaide, Australia
    So far I've seen both the Fauldings Glycerine and Queen Vegetable Glycerine at the supermarket. Has anyone used both, and is one preferable to the other?

    I just browsed through this thread and noticed it mentioned that the Fauldings Glycerine is a synthetic equivalent to VG and I'm not sure which I should go for, or if there is a better VG than Queen brand available (maybe from health food stores or something).
     
  3. dinium

    dinium Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 23, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
    I saw both as well, and there was some reason why I didn't buy the Queens, but I can not remember for the life of me what it was. One of the listed ingredients or contents perhaps? It may have even been the BP rating on the Fauldings (it's apparently the UK version of the US USP rating)

    I use the Fauldings in most of my mixes (with distilled water to manage the viscosity).

    As to other brands or types, hopefully someone else has looked into it...
     
  4. COM76

    COM76 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 18, 2010
    QLD, Australia
    I think it is worth going out to the health food store and getting Pure Vegetable Glycerine. It does only cost about $6.00 for 200ml (The brand i got was Melrose). I think since it is the same price as Fauldings (sometimes cheaper) and just as readily available, for the piece of mind just buy it. The fauldings brand i purchased first and had no problems with it but it is synthetic, why not just buy the VG from the health food store next time you need some.

    I however have since realised i cannot use Pure vegetable glycerine (Health food shop brand) as it gives me severe cramps i can however use small amounts of Fauldings BP . This just proves there are difference between the two.
     
  5. k.rad

    k.rad Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 7, 2010
    Adelaide, Australia
    Thanks for weighing in guys. I'm starting to run a bit low on VG juice, so I reckon I'll be picking up some VG tomorrow and trying my hand at blending my own with some tasteless 36mg I have.

    Bummer. Do you get the same thing from vaping Dekang VG juice?

    I'm the other way around and seem to have a bit of trouble with PG juice. It seems to give me a sore throat if I vape too much of it.
     
  6. COM76

    COM76 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 18, 2010
    QLD, Australia
    Have not tried that juice mate. As for the sore throat. How long have you been vaping? My throat was sore for the first week i was told that was just me ajusting to vaping i also lowered the nic content by adding more pg. Vaping has become such a hobby for me i wish i could enjoy every part of it but alas i miss out on VG.
     
  7. k.rad

    k.rad Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 7, 2010
    Adelaide, Australia
    Dekang is the manufacturer of most (all?) juice that comes from China, so if you've bought any from China chances are you may have tried it (the PG variety anyway).

    Have you tried any VG apart from the health food store gear? I guess there's a chance that the specific brand you used is the culprit if so.

    I've been vaping for ~4 weeks now, and I did get a slight sore throat when I started too. I had a heavy session on some PG juice the other night whilst knocking back a few brews and had a pretty sore throat later in the evening and the next day.

    I've vaped just as heavily (and heavier) a few times on mostly VG juice and didn't have any probs, so I'm suspicious that PG is the culprit. I'm staying off the PG for a few days atm and will try it again at a later date to confirm whether it gives me any more trouble.
     
  8. COM76

    COM76 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 18, 2010
    QLD, Australia
    I have ordered from light in the box and their stuff is fine for me no problems at all. It was definately PG. I have tried Melrose pure vegetable glyc that was the worst for me Fauldings BP is a little better in small amounts. I have yet to try another source. I to had a big night on the vape i used the light in the box stuff and i did have a sore throat but a lot better than a night on the cigs. I have been vaping for about the same time as you i am still experimenting with lots of things. I have put a bit of money into this. I have about 2 years supply of juice got lots of mixing to do to work out what suits me most. Dont forget to drink lots of water with PG.
     
  9. k.rad

    k.rad Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 7, 2010
    Adelaide, Australia
    I reckon it could be worth trying some store bought VG nicotine juice before you totally write it off, just to be sure. Unless someone else can vouch for the quality of the Melrose stuff.

    Well, beer is mostly water I guess, and there was no shortage of that when I had my trouble :)

    I still haven't written off PG yet, and I'd love to be able to keep vaping it, but I'm just very suspicious that it doesn't agree with me as well as VG does.
     
  10. dinium

    dinium Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 23, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
    Still no reply. I might ring them early next week.

    Com, have you heard anything?
     
  11. dinium

    dinium Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 23, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
    I finally got round to ringing New Directions about their PG.

    It's definitely not food or phama grade. In fact they claim it's cosmetic grade, which I'd not heard of before as a grading level.

    So they're off the list. Anyone know anywhere else we can get PG easily?
     
  12. The SchwanTZ

    The SchwanTZ Full Member

    Apr 15, 2010
    here & there!
    Handy hint when ordering PG from the chemist...

    ANY chemist in Australia can order in PG for you...it's obviously NOT illegal but (as some of us have learn't), it's awkward explaining to an assistant what you need it for! The moment you mention electronic cigs...you'll usually get a polite NO!!!

    Ordering PG the easy way...go to your nearest chemist...say you're making "flavoured smoke-machine" liquid - within 7 days your order will be waiting!!!

    maximum cost will be $34 for 500ml of pharma grade.
    Manufacturer is "david craig galenicals" - Biotech pharmaceuticals P/L 83 Cherry Lane laverton Nth.

    I have EXTENSIVELY used glycerine bought from the chemist and supermarket. My favorite for mixing is DEFINITELY the queens brand glycerine- primarily used in cakes, toppings and setting fruit flans etc... find it in the cake aisle with the flavourings. $3.20 per 300ml - has a very sweet taste!!!

    the glycerine in the PHARMACEUTICAL/MEDICAL aisle is $8 per 300ml (fauldings), is used for "cracked hands" etc and IMO tastes crap!

    Either way, just mix a bit of water in to thin it out! (i use mineral water - it's fine!)

    BUT the BEST place for premixed PG-based UNUSUAL flavours is any INDIAN supermarket.
    These guys have such magnificent options as - tandoori, mango, gulab juman, biryani, lemon, rosewater, almond, cashew, peanut, pineapple, lotus(?) and many more!!!

    The smaller shops tend to only have almond or rose - the larger have everything!!! They make heaps of creamy custardy thingos with the flavours!!!

    Price: usually around or under $2 per 30ml bottle!!!

    ENJOY!!!!
     
  13. MrDismal

    MrDismal Moderator ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Oct 21, 2009
    Australia, Melbourne
    Alright so I came across some Fauldings Glycerine BP by mistake in Coles and bought some (200ml)

    This is ok to use as a diluter? And whats the best mix with water? like 50/50 ect?
     
  14. COM76

    COM76 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 18, 2010
    QLD, Australia
    Yeah i was using Fauldings for a while to mix i added 20% water and 10% vodka so 70% fauldings. I have a reaction to VG yet when using fauldings it was not as bad. This could be some sort of sign.
     
  15. MrDismal

    MrDismal Moderator ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Oct 21, 2009
    Australia, Melbourne
    im guessing it will weakin the taste of the juices? Hmmm.. I'll have to have a play around...
     
  16. jesseb05

    jesseb05 Full Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Queensland, Australia
    I paid $AU44 for a 500ml bottle of PG from a pharmacy. I didn't need to show ID or give my name. I was asked when collecting it what I intended to use it for and I just said for a smoke machine. I realize $44 is expensive yet 500ml will keep me going for a long time. As far as i'm aware there shouldn't be any restrictions in place for the over the counter sale of this product.
     
  17. MattC

    MattC Full Member

    Oct 5, 2011
    Australia
    Thx for your post, Was very informative and givin me the information i was looking for in this thread!
     
  18. MattC

    MattC Full Member

    Oct 5, 2011
    Australia
    Also what formula are you using for your usual vape? How much PG, VG, Water and flavourless nic?
     
  19. VShe

    VShe Senior Member

    Jul 27, 2011
    East Coast OZ
    Cheapest I've found in Australia to buy PG and VG is Vape King DIY Supplies

    Favourite nic supplier at the moment is RTSVapes RTS Vapes but be warned, can take 3-5 weeks to arrive.

    Read the DIY forum to find how to mix it & be careful handling the undiluted nic base - wear gloves - don't get it on your skin. Maybe even wear goggles if using highest concentration.
     
  20. Scotty66

    Scotty66 Full Member

    Jul 29, 2011
    Australia
    Hi guys sorry if this isnt the right place to ask but can anyone tell me what the difference is in Juice whores perfumed apetizers and the regular flavour doublers
     
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