Which is the best flavour supplier

[Matt Marshall]

Ive just started my first month of diy and I have purchased 10 flavours from flavourart i can safely say they are garbage. I've have made a few bottles nows using Base flavours and they all taste pretty similar. It's infuriating. I find they either taste bland or rancid. Someone please help?

 

[sketchness]

it would help if you listed one mix you tried with percentages. So we could see what is going on. FA flavors are often decent in the 1-3% range.


And what 10 you have?

 

[Matt Marshall]

I have apple stark, banana, strawberry, mandarin, grapefruit, apple pie, marshmallow, Jamaican rhum, custard and pineapple. I made strawberry and marshmallow using 10% marshmallow and 5% strawberry 3mg nic max vg and it tastes dull. I tried pure marshmallow using 20% mallow 3mg nic max vg and it doesn't taste like the marshmallows I'm used to vaping.

 

[Vapenstein]

I find that Capella's, TFA and Flavor West all have the best versions of some flavors, but no one flavor maker has the market on all of them. Trial and error is the only way to find out which you think is best, per individual flavor. Chances are if lots of recipes you see online use a specific brand of a specific flavor, there is a reason.

 

[Alter]

Flavorart is flavorart no matter if you buy from vendor A or B. DIY is just like blindly buying juices, unless you research reviews of flavors some are hit and miss and some are just straight miss. I'm no DIY expert but I have had some flavors from different companies and they all have their good and bad. I do not like the tobaccos from any company other than Hangsen cause I know what the rancid taste is your talking about and I get it from almost all tobac companies other than hangsen and its YUK almost sickly tasting
I do mix a lot of single flavors, steep then blend them together, steep again rather than just adding flavorings to base and its worked good for me.
DIY juice isn't simple like building a coil, there is a lot of messing around with ratios and finding a concentrate that works for you.

 

[Matt Marshall]

I meant like flavourart vs the flavour apprentice or alchemists shack

 

[Vapenstein]

Just buy a big bottle of Capella's Vanilla Custard, a monkey could make good juice with that stuff.

 

[sketchness]

10% flavour art is pretty high. You don't usually see anyone mixing them that high in a recipe, at least not an individual flavor in a mix. Try taking one ml of juice you mixed and cutting it with 4 mls of plain and see what happens.

Or try a test of flavor at 3% in a 5 ml batch. Regular see tfa, fw, Capella recipes in the 15-30% range.

And I agree cap custard is awesome

 

[misswish1]

Matt, you need to go find the recommended starting % for those flavors. FA mostly starts around 2% for single recipes. It is concentrated! They are great flavors, pretty much all I use. They have the most realistic fruit flavors, too. Good luck!

 

[Hoosier]

I wrote a whole blog on flavoring levels because the most common mistake new mixers make is over flavoring. Which, unlike most people think, makes the juice more flavorless or perfumey.

And it is REAL EASY to over flavor with FA! I have a recipe that uses 4 FA flavorings and the total flavoring percentage is 2.4% and it is a very strong flavor.

Given what you have posted so far, I'm willing to bet big money that over flavoring is your problem, not the flavoring.

That's one reason I usually suggest Capella's for new mixers. They work fairly well and it is usually darn tough to over flavor with them to the point of perfumey and darn near impossible to over use them enough to get flavorless.