Who else vapes at 30 to 36 milligrams
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But with the 36 I defiantly Switch to VG
If you get a reaction to a large amount of PG, it's very likely at some point a small amount can bite you later, like when your metabolism or resistance is at a low.
If you get a reaction to a large amount of PG, it's very likely at some point a small amount can bite you later, like when your metabolism or resistance is at a low.
You should ask your doctor those questions. I did ask my doctor and my Mom's vascular doctor and he's fine with her vaping.
Vaping what? How much?
I've been in discussions with 2 Docs.
One didn't have a clue (like many) about what the ingredients are or what was involved. I had to tell him about it, and he looked at me like a deer in the headlights.
The other ran me through the whole metabolic system and how it works . He is a top Holistic Doctor..
This is kinda what's out there. I would suppose a vascular doc wouldn't mislead your mother and has a clue, and yet everyones scenario is different, and every doctors knowledge base of e-cigs is different as well.
So when the one poster tells me his Doc is good with 36mg+ it makes me question the Doc's integrity. Not that he's bad, but the question needs raised.
I've been in discussions with 2 Docs.
One didn't have a clue (like many) about what the ingredients are or what was involved. I had to tell him about it, and he looked at me like a deer in the headlights.
The other ran me through the whole metabolic system and how it works . He is a top Holistic Doctor..
This is kinda what's out there. I would suppose a vascular doc wouldn't mislead your mother and has a clue, and yet everyones scenario is different, and every doctors knowledge base of e-cigs is different as well.
So when the one poster tells me his Doc is good with 36mg+ it makes me question the Doc's integrity. Not that he's bad, but the question needs raised.
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The only integrety that needs to be questioned, is yours. You are a "fear monger". Fortunately for new people on ECF, there are now easily about 40 of us who have called you out for what you are and will be watching closely that you don't try to scare new people here from vaping in a manner that will allow them to kick the smoking habit. Since you still smoke a pack of analogs a day, you would be wise to stop giving out bad advice and instead, try to learn something.
ok i gotta chime in on this b/c this thread has a lot of erroneous stuff in it. First of all, the nicotine we are inhaling in the vapor is not being absorbed by our lungs (or very little is). it is mostly being absorbed in the throat, mouth and nose. having said that, the next conclusion is that the nicotine we are inhaling is not that large compared to cigarettes. cigarettes COMBUST the nicotine into small particles that can be absorbed by the lungs. a supposed 1mg of nicotine per cigarette is fully being absorbed. with vaping, not nearly so much nicotine is being absorbed. (lungs cannot absorb from liquids - aka vapor) secondly, anyone who has ever smoked does not smoke the same amount of cigarettes every day or every hour. to even suggest that a little more or a little less nicotine would in any way affect a smoker to a great degree needs to go back to addiction class. following that point, the largest affector of people who have stopped smoking (analogs) is the loss of 1400+ (so they say) chemicals no longer coursing through the body. everything is addictive. i will repeat, everything is addictive. it is the way our bodies are wired. when quitting smoking our bodies want every little single chemical again. vaping only provides one of those chemicals. since only one is provided, there is still lots of craving going on. to up the nicotine amount to stave off the other cravings is a no brainer. as far as the effects vapers are feeling after not smoking but vaping 24mg, quitting smoking gives shakes, headaches, irritability, nausea even. it is not responsible to consider second hand witnessing of these effects as attributable to too much nicotine. please dont fulfill the maxim of tis better to be unwise and not speak than to speak and remove all doubt. lastly, it would be extremely hard to over nicotine yourself vaping. vaping does not provide enough nicotine per dose to overcome the speed with which your body would recognize that it is getting too much. please carry on. may your vaping be long lasting.
btw, i have vaped 24mg consistently for 5 months. not even close to a head rush. not even close to too much nicotine. and each person has to make their own judgements and decisions about what is right, but unless you get above 36mg, one is pretty darn safe from any kind of over dig the nicotine. i would be more worried about flavorings.
lastly, there is no such thing as a holistic doctor.
btw, i have vaped 24mg consistently for 5 months. not even close to a head rush. not even close to too much nicotine. and each person has to make their own judgements and decisions about what is right, but unless you get above 36mg, one is pretty darn safe from any kind of over dig the nicotine. i would be more worried about flavorings.
lastly, there is no such thing as a holistic doctor.
Doctor Earthpig, ...., you are ignorant and a fear monger. Find another place to practice your unlicened medicine. You smoke a PAD yet claim to have the answers to help people quit. WTF. Working at a kiosk at a mall is not a medical degree. Take a long hike.
Nicotine: How Does Tt Work I think I will start posting on this thread some interesting facts...more to come....
She didn't ask him about nicotine levels although I mentioned to him what nicotine level she was vaping. He just wrote in her chart that she was using nicotine replacement therapy. At the time, I believe she was at 18 mg. She only vaped the 36 for the first couple weeks and when she was done with the cigs she was off the 36.
She just recently had surgery- had a aneurysm in her popliteal artery (behind her knee) and he was her vascular surgeon. Actually he's head of vascular medicine at Univ of PA. These can be fairly common with smokers. He never mentioned anything regarding nicotine levels at all and seemed fairly familiar with ecigs. I also spoke with her regular doctor regarding vaping and he was pleased that she was doing it. Delighted actually. I did discuss the nicotine levels with him and he said he wasn't concerned with that, his concern is with the other things in cigarettes and getting off them was the important thing.
Glad to hear, Swedishfish.
Glad it is being watched and overviewed .
KeysBum.
You got any background? Walk yourself.
Glad it is being watched and overviewed .
KeysBum.
You got any background? Walk yourself.
Now here's a tough choice for medical advice......
Doctrine of prevention and treatment that emphasizes looking at the whole person body, mind, emotions, and environment rather than a single function or organ. It promotes use of a wide range of health practices and therapies, including acupuncture, homeopathy, and nutrition, stressing "self-care" with traditional commonsense essentials. In the extreme, it may accord equal validity to a wide range of health-care approaches, some incompatible and not all scientific. (singing kumbia)
OR
A real doctor,...
Definition - Britannica Concise Encyclopedia: holistic medicine
Doctrine of prevention and treatment that emphasizes looking at the whole person body, mind, emotions, and environment rather than a single function or organ. It promotes use of a wide range of health practices and therapies, including acupuncture, homeopathy, and nutrition, stressing "self-care" with traditional commonsense essentials. In the extreme, it may accord equal validity to a wide range of health-care approaches, some incompatible and not all scientific. (singing kumbia)
OR
A real doctor,...
when i crave a marlboro menthol light 100, i just sing kumbia and the feeling subsides. 
Holistic Doctor is a mindset and he is a quite a list of credentials as a life extension physician. He's extremely thorough, takes 3 months to get an appointment with and you will spend 45 minutes in check and consultation with him.
He uses Holistic natural practices above and beyond (and with as well as necessary) the standardized medications.
So before y'all go of on what he's not, that's speculative on you part(s). So instead of blather, how about someone address the issues I've brought up, if you dare.
You know, The effects like nausea/heart palp/etc? Or are they non issues? (I know they are not)
He uses Holistic natural practices above and beyond (and with as well as necessary) the standardized medications.
So before y'all go of on what he's not, that's speculative on you part(s). So instead of blather, how about someone address the issues I've brought up, if you dare.
You know, The effects like nausea/heart palp/etc? Or are they non issues? (I know they are not)
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from WebMD:
Understanding Nicotine Withdrawal -- Symptoms
What Are the Symptoms of Nicotine Withdrawal?
In active tobacco users, a lack of nicotine produces a wide range of withdrawal symptoms, including any or all of the following:
Headache
Nausea
Constipation or ........
Falling heart rate and blood pressure
Fatigue, drowsiness, and insomnia
Irritability
Difficulty concentrating
Anxiety
Depression
Increased hunger and caloric intake
Increased desire for the taste of sweets
Tobacco cravings
source:
The Symptoms of Nicotine Withdrawal
i believe i hit all of the things you cited.
Dude really???? talking about being ignorant just your tone with the .... is BS.You call him a fear monger sounds like to me you are a hate monger.Sounds like to me someone needs a early bedtime so he don't wake up so cranky.Their is a better way to get your point across instead of running of the mouth.
earthpig if its such a big deal, quit smoking analogs AND vaping...
oh wait, you can't.
oh wait, you can't.
I vape all vg nic but the flavorings are usually disolved in PG so they are almost always in the juice in some amounts. I enjoy the flavors and don't like vaping unflavored so have to limit how much I vape even with mostly VG juice. For someone who claims to sell e-cigs and juice you really know very little about them.
I ordered my 1st juice with 36mg nic and quit the day it arrived in the mail with no looking back. 167 day now with no cigs! I convert people to vaping all the time. I suggest to new vapors that they buy a 36 and 12 in the same flavor then mix to get the right level for themselves (1/2 12 and 1/2 36 is about 24, 3/4 12 and 1/4 36 is about 18 ect)
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noodoggy.
That's the effects of "withdrawl", not the other way.
So nope, you didn't cover it. That list would include the reverse in heart rate and issues related to it.
That's the effects of "withdrawl", not the other way.
So nope, you didn't cover it. That list would include the reverse in heart rate and issues related to it.
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