Whose got cheap straight nicotine liquid?

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Scubabatdan

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Well that stuff certainly looks official.

Thanks

I too have been using blip labs, I just found this yesterday:
100mg/ml Unflavored Xtreme Nic Juice for sale.

I have PMed this user 5 times with very fast responses. I will be trying his 100mg juice as soon as I get it in the mail. Will post my findings, if it is as good as blips lab then I will be switching as he only lives a state away! woohoo!
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Check out myfreedom smokes. They have 500 mL for 213, and on top of that, you get a 20 mL flavor/strength of your choice when you order. Shipping is WTF-fast. (ordered thurs/wed), got monday with USPS.

I ordered for their BOGO free that was going on and got a few atty's to stock up, and i found a new favorite flavor(RY4), so I'm just spreading what I know. If it's still cheaper than most of what you've seen so far, check em out, you won't be disappointed. (look at their forum before you order, they might have a sale/coupon code that kicks ...).
 

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Start with Dan's ejuice calculator. It's in the sticky's at the top of the DIY e-liquid thread.

Agree totally! Also, I use a syringe for measuring...makes mixes reproducible. How much you use for an amount of flavor really depends on the flavor. Make a 10% vanilla mix and you may taste it. Make a 10% peppermint mix, and you'll blow your head off, and scramble to get the fouled atty into a bath. I found butter run to be very strong, but butterscotch not so much. It's like cooking, and asking how much flavor should I use? Well, it depends... But its a lot of fun to mix your own, especially with inexpensive bulk juice! :cool:
 

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Just to keep you guys and gals updated I just got the nicotine lab report from supertrkre2812 and thought I would share it with everyone:

NicTest.jpg


He is the first supplier I have seen that offers 100mg/ml nic juice. Obviously you will have to cut this. But for the people that are looking for higher nicotine strength like blip labs at 75mg/ml I think this will fit the bill.
I have already recieved a tracking number and am hopeful this is as clean as it apears. He does have a visual side by side comparison of water, nicotine, and the 100mg nic juice in his post here:
100mg/ml Unflavored Xtreme Nic Juice for sale.
I will post my review as soon as I recieve it.
I hope this helps everyone.
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100mg nic juice? Does anybody really need that?? Yeah, I have no doubt that people like Scubabatdan, and alot of others will take proper precautions when using such potent nic mixtures. But there are enough knuckle heads out there, who won't even give it a second thought. They'll be the ones who mix it haphazardly on the kitchen table right before dinner, without ANY precautions, or try to vape it straight just because they can. Cmon, lets get real here. As long as we can get good quality 60mg, and even 75mg liquid, is there really any need for this. It's approaching a level, that at some point, it's going to have serious consequences caused by mishandling, or misuse, or simple carelessness. Not to mention stupidity.
Only 3 months ago when I started vaping, if you could even find 48mg liquid you felt lucky, and buying even 60mg liquid, was for the most part, unheard of.
What's next, 150mg liquid? 200mg liquid?
Realistically, anything over 75mg nic liquid probably shouldn't be available to just any schmuck with a credit card. At what level does it become just too unsafe to use in a home environment? Especially considering people with little or no experience WILL buy this. I just don't think having uber strength nic liquid available to anyone who wants it, is a very good idea. But that's just my $.02
 
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100mg nic juice? Does anybody really need that?? Yeah, I have no doubt that people like Scubabatdan, and alot of others will take proper precautions when using such potent nic mixtures. But there are enough knuckle heads out there, who won't even give it a second thought. They'll be the ones who mix it haphazardly on the kitchen table right before dinner, without ANY precautions, or try to vape it straight just because they can. Cmon, lets get real here. As long as we can get good quality 60mg, and even 75mg liquid, is there really any need for this. It's approaching a level, that at some point, it's going to have serious consequences caused by mishandling, or misuse, or simple carelessness. Not to mention stupidity.
Only 3 months ago when I started vaping, if you could even find 48mg liquid you felt lucky, and buying even 60mg liquid, was for the most part, unheard of.
What's next, 150mg liquid? 200mg liquid?
Realistically, anything over 75mg nic liquid probably shouldn't be available to just any schmuck with a credit card. At what level does it become just too unsafe to use in a home environment? Especially considering people with little or no experience WILL buy this. I just don't think having uber strength nic liquid available to anyone who wants it, is a very good idea. But that's just my $.02


Well I look at it this way, higher mg levels = not as much ejuice needed, less weight means less shipping cost. Granted 100mg is not for everyone but Darwins law will weed out the undesirables :D LOL jk
Seriously, I can get more out of 100mg nic juice and in this quality it is as good if not better than Blip Labs, I recieved my order and here is my review:

I just recieved my order, I am currently mixing this as I write. First impression, fast shipping 2 days, well packaged, glass bottles with labels, DOT information, LOT number, and expiration date. Smells faintly of nicotine, no harsh chemical or foul smell like others I have tried. Very clean looking, appears crystal clear with faint "tinge". Mixing my first batch at 24mg/ml.
Wow nice thoat hit, very clean taste, no after taste!
Now lets add some flavoring in.
Excellent, all I taste is the flavoring, nothing masking it.
At 24mg it really hit nice, even with my rum coffee toffee mix added in.
I am very impressed with the quality of this liquid and HIGHLY recommend it.
Well that is my review I will try it at a higher dose later. And test the mg% when I get the rest of my kit in to perform a titration test.

If you are worried about the nic levels this high then do not order this, but I have seen people in the forums vaping 60mg, this is not what I recommend but they know there body best. And as you read this you know your abilities. With this high of a nicotine concentration I agree it is not for everyone to try if you are nervous at the thought of handling this, then I would pass and go for somthing you feel is safer. But I am glad that there are people that are offering this, as it makes the whole process alot cheaper since the shipping cost of 10 liters is crazy due to weight when I can get the same total mg % in a third of the weight.

I do understand some peoples reservations at this high of a mg concentration, but if you are handling 75mg what is another 25mg??? Treat it like you would any other mixing process and RESPECT the dangers of nicotine. I am just reviewing what I have experianced and why I feel it is a worthy investment. And I will be doing business with supertrkre2812 again!
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I received an offer from him for 150mg in fact.. but didn't post it publicly and kept it in pm's... he will sell out fast now... I have seen many good reviews about his liquid.. The pictures were pure and clean. looks like water. If I had the funds I would buy all of his inventory and throw it in the fridge.
 

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100mg nic juice? Does anybody really need that?? Yeah, I have no doubt that people like Scubabatdan, and alot of others will take proper precautions when using such potent nic mixtures. But there are enough knuckle heads out there, who won't even give it a second thought. They'll be the ones who mix it haphazardly on the kitchen table right before dinner, without ANY precautions, or try to vape it straight just because they can. Cmon, lets get real here. As long as we can get good quality 60mg, and even 75mg liquid, is there really any need for this. It's approaching a level, that at some point, it's going to have serious consequences caused by mishandling, or misuse, or simple carelessness. Not to mention stupidity.
Only 3 months ago when I started vaping, if you could even find 48mg liquid you felt lucky, and buying even 60mg liquid, was for the most part, unheard of.
What's next, 150mg liquid? 200mg liquid?
Realistically, anything over 75mg nic liquid probably shouldn't be available to just any schmuck with a credit card. At what level does it become just too unsafe to use in a home environment? Especially considering people with little or no experience WILL buy this. I just don't think having uber strength nic liquid available to anyone who wants it, is a very good idea. But that's just my $.02

I would have to agree this is getting out of hand. Proper precautions must be made. Probably why countries are banning the e-cig. I have only been vaping 3 weeks and did enough digging and research in that little amount of time to be able to purchase 150mg.. WTF Just stock up on 36mg of your favorite flavor.. cut that... don't try to cut lethal doses.
 
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I would have to agree this is getting out of hand. Proper precautions must be made. Probably why countries are banning the e-cig. I have only been vaping 3 weeks and did enough digging and research in that little amount of time to be able to purchase 150mg.. WTF Just stock up on 36mg of your favorite flavor.. cut that... don't try to cut lethal doses.
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If you did not want 100mg/ml or 150mg/ml, why did you PM me, lead me to believe that you had the knowledge, safety equipment, 2 acres in the woods, a table outside to mix it on, etc, etc, etc.
"I want to know how high of a mg I can get and how much quantity and the prices. I'd get up to a half gallon if it was high enough in mg and affordable!"
If someone assures me they have the knowledge, equipment, and the need for high nic, it is not my desire to be their "nanny", as I do not live in the nanny state.
Everyone on this forum "should" be 18 years old, considered an adult, and have enough common sense to decide if they want something or not, and know the risks associated with their decisions.
I make the need for safety and respect for the nic perfectly clear in my reply to the PM's I receive.
As i did to you.
"But you would have to agree to dilute it before use, keep it out of the reach of children, and have gloves and a fresh air supply to work with it. And to not hold me responsible for anything."
If you are satisfied with 36mg flavored juice, then by all means, continue to buy it from your current source.
But for those that vape more than 36mg flavors, common sense tells you that it takes more 48mg, or 60mg juice to up the nic content than it would take 100mg, thus you would not dilute the flavors as much with a higher nic content.
I will repeat.
THIS JUICE IS NOT MEANT TO BE VAPED STRAIGHT!!!!!!
Now, if you want a nanny, PM me, and I will give you the name of a few nanny wannabe's, like Obama, Pelosi, Clinton & so on & so on.

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This high octane juice juice if kept covered and refrigerated how long can it actually last? I've seen one year and two year statements. If kept for a much longer time, say 4 years, what can be expected? Does it become a safety issue or a potency one?

Good question! I've read 2-4 years for essential oils in PG to use safely, but does anyone know the 1/2 life of nicotine in PG or VG? If its 12 months, then this means that after 1 year you have 1/2 as much nic as you started with. 8-o This is from a reaction with oxygen, so certainly getting rid of the air above the liquid will help. This is all for unflavored high-nic juice. Flavors or flavored juice will last less than this due to the flavors themselves eventually decomposing. So I make up flavors fresh and in small amounts, and store the base juice properly for the long term in amber glass bottles.
 

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If you will take a tiny piece of dry ice and let it gas in the bottle until it is gone before filling it, you will have displaced the 02 with CO2. CO2 is heavier than air.

Also, half lives are temperature sensitive. For example, the sugar Ribose has a half life of about 70 years at 0degC, but only 73 minutes at 100degC.
 

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If you will take a tiny piece of dry ice and let it gas in the bottle until it is gone before filling it, you will have displaced the 02 with CO2. CO2 is heavier than air.
jerrydon,
The supplier informed me that PURE NIC needs to be stored in a cool, dark place, in NITROGEN gas, NOT CO2.
I don't know what co2 would do to the liquid. It may accelerate the oxidation of the Nicotine or the PG, but I do not know.
OK, I did some research and this is off the MSDS for Propylene Glycol.
Reactivity Data
Stability: YES Cond To Avoid (Stability): NONE Materials To Avoid: OXIDIZING AGENTS. Hazardous Decomp Products: PROPIONALDEHYDE, CARBON MONOXIDE, CARBON DIOXIDE Hazardous Poly Occur: NO Conditions To Avoid (Poly): WILL NOT OCCUR.

So, from the above, it appears that CO2 will ACCELERATE oxidation.
If you want maximum storage life, Air Products sells Nitrogen tanks and regulators for around $150.8-o
But honestly, I mix up my juice for personal use in 30ml bottles and store the rest in a box (USPS priority mail) in the fridge and I have not noticed any oxidation.
In fact, i have a 15ml bottle of 100mg/ml juice sitting on my end table, and it is just as clear as the day I put it there 1 month ago, unrefrigerated and in the light.
I thought about freezing it in the fridge, until DVap told me my freezer would not get cold enough to freeze Nicotine, since it freezes at -110 degrees.

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CO2 would tend to dissolve, at least in water, to form carbonic acid (H2C03) which is a weak acid and the basis of carbonated water. I'd steer clear of it.

The most easily obtained source of an inert gas would be the injectors used to preserve opened bottles of wine from oxidation... I'm not sure if they inject nitrogen or argon, but both would be effective.
 
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