Why 5 Volts?

[Kropotkin]

These "Military" batteries from Vapor Girl are puzzling!

Exclusive Ultimate Military Ecig Batteries, Regulated 1300Mah

I really, really like them because they're so plain and so handsome, because they come in 808 threading and - best of all - because they're 1300mAh automatics. Absolutely perfect!

Here are the specs, with the puzzling part in red:

• Completely designed by The Vapor Girl, fashioned by specs from my military clientele.
• 808 and ego-style threads
• 1300 mAh
• Stealth style (metal plate end, tiny blue LED lite)
• Complete stainless steel body
• Regulated
• 4.2 volts ego style/510 threads
• Regulated 5.0 volts 808 threads
• Long cut off times
• Automatic - sensor does not respond to noise, only breath intake
• The Vapor Girl logo
• Manufactured at the same factory that creates the echo batteries, which are known for their excellent standards, no cheap shortcuts and attention to detail.

What's that about? Why so high? Would 5.0 volts burn and ruin ordinary juices? I'm relatively new to vaping, and have never seen this before.

 

[kiwivap]

Good question. The 510s are regulated at 3.8 to 3.9 volts. And 5 volts for the 808s. ?? My 808 900mah X2 is regulated at 3.7 volts and is fine. I wouldn't want 5 volts.

 

[Kropotkin]

Yes. I use the X2s too, and quite like them. I can't imagine why an 808 would need higher voltage than a 510.

 

[JakeTheV&pe]

Looking at the link it seems to me its a selling point... like "HEY YOU!!! L@@K its got bloody MILITARY on it!!!.... YOU see???... M I L I T A R Y... grrrrr ITS HARD!!! ITS ARRRRRRMY! HOOORAHHHH.." but with a less sarcy look on it, they seem ok

 

[Kropotkin]

They do have kind of a Super-Hard-Guy thing going on, don't they?

And yet they apparently have "Vapor Girl" written right on them in some sort of ultra-curly script. . . more puzzlement!

 

[iamtumus]

it would only burn using a low resistance cartomizer/atomizer.
with a 3 ohm atomizer at 5v, that would be a nearly identical vape to 1.7 ohms at 3.7v...

but 3 ohm at 5v would have more amps and therefore have a longer battery life (in theory, not necessarily in practice)

 

[18SixFifty]

Nothing at all wrong with 5 volts. Just don't use a low resistance atty or cart. It also depends on the juice, some is great at 5 volts. I used to vate at 5 all the time. Now I use a 3.7 with an low resistance atty and it's about the same.

 

[18SixFifty]

As for the military specs. First of all it would be matt black possibly rubberized. Second it would have no LED. Unless of course you are vaping on base, this would not be the field model. But again nothing wrong with 5 volts.

 

[appletux]

These "Military" batteries from Vapor Girl are puzzling!

Exclusive Ultimate Military Ecig Batteries, Regulated 1300Mah

I really, really like them because they're so plain and so handsome, because they come in 808 threading and - best of all - because they're 1300mAh automatics. Absolutely perfect!

Here are the specs, with the puzzling part in red:


What's that about? Why so high? Would 5.0 volts burn and ruin ordinary juices? I'm relatively new to vaping, and have never seen this before.

In theory, the more volts you have, the less current you need to generate the same watts. The problem is what amps this things delivers , is the higher voltage for lower currents in mind?, more that 3 amps is dangerous..

 

[Kropotkin]

Okay. This is interesting.

What sort of juices work well at 5.0? (I much prefer a PG/VG ratio of 80/20 or 75/25, and really don't like anything with more than 40% VG.)

Also, I'm currently using CE3s most of the time, but would like to try this battery with a tank. What do the experts think of that, and what type of tank might you recommend?






Edited (because this forum is so fast-paced) to add:
Appletux, I'm an idiot about this stuff. Could you say that again in terms suitable for a 6 year old?

 

[wv2win]

If you like cold vapor, then 3.3 - 3.7 volts is all you need.

For those of us who have been doing this for a while, we have found that warmer vapor better simulates the real thing and prefer it. Warmer vapor comes with higher voltage. For many, 4.5 - 5.0 volts is the sweet spot for vaping. 6.0 volts up is too hot and 4.2 and lower is too cold. Yes, you can get warmer vapor with LR attys/cartos but they don't hold up as well and are a much more inconsistent way to get warmer vapor in comparison to a regulated battery.

Absent using a VV/VW model PV, using a regulated 5.0 volt PV provides warmer vapor and being regulated, does it consistently. It's also best to have a 3.5 - 4 amp switch regulator so you can use any atty or carto, including dual coils. Many of the cheap model PV's have only 2.5 amp switch regulators which limits what carto/atty you can use.

 

[iamtumus]

any juice the flavor seems really weak at the current voltage you use, taste is subjective.
also note it can only use 808 threaded atomizers or cartomizers.

the user reviews on the site said the tested at 4.2 volts also....which is about where all batteries are fully charged

 

[wv2win]

.........the user reviews on the site said the tested at 4.2 volts also....which is about where all batteries are fully charged

Well, that is not true if you are using a 5 volt GLV2 or a Provari or a Darwin, etc.

 

[iamtumus]

a provari uses a 3.7v battery that gets boosted, so yes, it measures 4.2v when fully charged.
not sure on glv2 or darwin, as i don't own either of those.
but i meant the standard fat batts like the op was talking about.

 

[appletux]

Okay. This is interesting.

What sort of juices work well at 5.0? (I much prefer a PG/VG ratio of 80/20 or 75/25, and really don't like anything with more than 40% VG.)

Also, I'm currently using CE3s most of the time, but would like to try this battery with a tank. What do the experts think of that, and what type of tank might you recommend?






Edited (because this forum is so fast-paced) to add:
Appletux, I'm an idiot about this stuff. Could you say that again in terms suitable for a 6 year old?

The larger the voltage and resistance, the safer vaping you'll have and the longer battery life you'll get.

 

[appletux]

Absent using a VV/VW model PV, using a regulated 5.0 volt PV provides warmer vapor and being regulated, does it consistently. It's also best to have a 3.5 - 4 amp switch regulator so you can use any atty or carto, including dual coils. Many of the cheap model PV's have only 2.5 amp switch regulators which limits what carto/atty you can use.

Dual coils are nonsense

 

[FantWriter]

Because of the time between charges, I'd be very interested except I get mouth sores when using my favorite juice on 5V. It got so bad, I had to go off vaping completely for a month to heal. Never again will I use anything but 3.7V again.

 

[Vinv]

As for the military specs. First of all it would be matt black possibly rubberized. Second it would have no LED. Unless of course you are vaping on base, this would not be the field model. But again nothing wrong with 5 volts.

Not all military specs are the same. Some options include anything between stainless steel to Gunmetal to Camo style textures on steel or black finish . Second It "could" be rubberized ,not "would" , Not always it's a good thing.
then again I agree , they should have included what type of military spec. because it's a battery and it's not obvious like a weapon for instance ... where one would easily conclude that it means build quality.

I suspect you misunderstood the military spec ,It's probably military spec thread quality (they do have that) , or have very few buttons or things that can break , military spec can be life expectancy to build quality to temperature ressistance ...

Edit : I apologize I haven't seen the price , 17$ ? no way. the military stuff is just a publishing gimmick ...just The licence needed for the approval would make them cost alot more.

 

[18SixFifty]

5.0 was really popular before the LR atties and Cartomizers came out. Of course now I see a lot of people have gone with VV.

I like keeping things simple and it's hard to beat a an all mechanical tube with a single 18650 and a 510 LR atty. You can get all fancy and use ohms law to figure out exactly how hot your atty is. But in the end it's still personal preference. I prefer consistency.

 

[wv2win]

Dual coils are nonsense

There are thousands of vapers who disagree with you. I use both but probably the 1.5 ohm dual coils the most. If you like cold vapor, then low voltage and single coil cartos/attys are for you.

I've had dozens of interactions with vapers either at vape meets or just around town who only knew about 3.7 volt PV's and when they tried my PV with a 1.5 ohm dual coil carto at 4.7 volts were blown away at the difference. I've had similar reactions to an 801 single coil 2.8 ohm atty at 5 volts, also. Using a PV that has regulated, boost circuit technology makes all the difference IMO (unless you don't like consistency).