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Well I'm learning damn search ECF a lot of knowledge besides searches lead you here, awesome site.....
So here goes...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/402686-best-18350-battery.html
And
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html
AW's and Panasonics are probably the best and oh
http://www.lighthound.com/
There thanks all.....
I bought an 18650 because people recommended me it, but I prefer my two 18350s. one 350 lasts me all day in my K101. But I guess I'm just a "light" vaper.
Yeah u are light. But like I typed I got 8 hrs out of both of my 18350's using them individually....
Tomorrow will be s,how time, I have access to power but its not like and ego pass through....
I will get more batts and a four slot charger. But I would rather carry one device beides the vape is much better on a mod
I, like you, thought the same, but I'm not sure anymore. A couple of days ago a glitch in my eVod left me without a vape. Thankfully I was on my way home. Nowadays i'm thinking about carrying a spare ego twist for those days just in case... What if you lose or misplace it? Happens every now and again in the car, falls from my lap into somewhere I can't reach while driving
I, like you, thought the same, but I'm not sure anymore. A couple of days ago a glitch in my eVod left me without a vape. Thankfully I was on my way home. Nowadays i'm thinking about carrying a spare ego twist for those days just in case... What if you lose or misplace it? Happens every now and again in the car, falls from my lap into somewhere I can't reach while driving
This is my first day real time with my itaste svd. I did bring my egov-v2 and vaped it as I drove in.
I loaded the 18650 in my svd at 6:00am so far so good. I am also not chain vaping like at home trying
to stress test ( but still heavy ). So far so good I am at least at about 80% batt. I also have my two 18350's.
Backups are always good.....
Wow and thanks to you both
I started using the Panasonic 18650 at 6am and still had meat left on the bone at 4....
Now if you can answer all this talk of high drain batts at 30 amp. Are high drain better suited for mechanical.
I'm sure you saw the thread with the Sony and Panasonic face off.
I did see some Sony 2200 mah. So please help....
Thanks again and I have to say for longevity wow. I must say I did have my settings a bit low not much
Even at 3.7v, with 30 amps you could potentially be vaping at in excess of 100 watts.
You wouldn't even get close to this in any real-world scenario. However, discharge rating is an indicator of quality. Essentially, how much continuous drain they can endure before getting hot enough to enter thermal runaway (where heat produce chemical reactions that produce heat). The less heat a battery produce, the more effect it delivers at the business end. So, a higher drain battery will always be more efficient than one of lesser quality. That being said, we don't really need the very best to produce a great vape. Personally I've reached a point where I'm content. And that's with a mix of Efest 18350 and AW 18490 batteries. There is more punch to the AWs, but I'm perfectly happy with the smaller Efests too. They don't last long, but I'm fine with carrying a couple backups instead of having a humongous mod for outdoors use.
You wouldn't even get close to this in any real-world scenario. However, discharge rating is an indicator of quality. Essentially, how much continuous drain they can endure before getting hot enough to enter thermal runaway (where heat produce chemical reactions that produce heat). The less heat a battery produce, the more effect it delivers at the business end. So, a higher drain battery will always be more efficient than one of lesser quality. That being said, we don't really need the very best to produce a great vape. Personally I've reached a point where I'm content. And that's with a mix of Efest 18350 and AW 18490 batteries. There is more punch to the AWs, but I'm perfectly happy with the smaller Efests too. They don't last long, but I'm fine with carrying a couple backups instead of having a humongous mod for outdoors use.
Thanks for giving me so,e perspective to work woth
I have an efest 900ma in my SMOK e pipe and I have a couple of observations. I think they have got better after a few charges... Maybe last 50% longer. You need a flat top in the e pipe and these are button top. I put them in with the button down on the spring, upside down, if you like and they work just fine.
I am thinking inthe next couple of weeks I will get another 18560, and two more 18350's. AW's or Panasonic.
Or maybe even Sonys
Or maybe even Sonys
I think it really depends on what you try and do. I carry around an Astro by Kato, and when I have a carto tank on it, I always slip in the 18350. What I think really matters when using an 18350 is how the specific mod accommodates it.
For example... I also have a Vama VV/VW. When in solo 18350 mode, it is the same size as my Astro in 18650 mode. If you can manage to find a good mod that was designed with small size in mind when sporting an 18350, it is hard to beat. The Atro I have, and the 18350 by Gus are two great examples of super short mech mods that really utilize the small size of the 18350. With that said, I end up just throwing in an 18650 on the Vamo, since all the circuitry really doesn't let you utilize the small 18350 like the Astro or Gus would.
As far as the battery life goes, I generally carry a pouch with me to work anyway that has the extender for my Astro, a Nimbus for dripping, a couple bottles of juice, and an 18650. The Nimbus dripper on the Astro works much better with the 18650. With that said, it is fair to say that I am not using my 18350 throughout the day bc I am switching to 18650 for dripping, so don't know how long it can really last.
This size is hard to beat though, which is why I praise the 18350 in the right mod.
For example... I also have a Vama VV/VW. When in solo 18350 mode, it is the same size as my Astro in 18650 mode. If you can manage to find a good mod that was designed with small size in mind when sporting an 18350, it is hard to beat. The Atro I have, and the 18350 by Gus are two great examples of super short mech mods that really utilize the small size of the 18350. With that said, I end up just throwing in an 18650 on the Vamo, since all the circuitry really doesn't let you utilize the small 18350 like the Astro or Gus would.
As far as the battery life goes, I generally carry a pouch with me to work anyway that has the extender for my Astro, a Nimbus for dripping, a couple bottles of juice, and an 18650. The Nimbus dripper on the Astro works much better with the 18650. With that said, it is fair to say that I am not using my 18350 throughout the day bc I am switching to 18650 for dripping, so don't know how long it can really last.
This size is hard to beat though, which is why I praise the 18350 in the right mod.
what i Always noticed is that when i had a 18350 800 mah efest battery in my evic (BoD) it would Always cut out at 38/40% (battery indicator) and when i use aw imr 18350 700 mah i can vape to 6/8%. This was @ 8 watts btw, so not high watts.
Well since this will be my primary driver, and since I already have an 18650 I think my primary o to batts will be the 18350's.
Because after going outside to vape talking and holding it. The weight did get to be a pain, I can stack the 350's and a review that I saw
said the svd fires most consistently with them stacked.
See this is why I wanted a mod because of the options mainly.
Also after having the twists, which are good; but the one downfall for me with them was
not having an indicator for the batt level. I kinda like to gave a gauge of where my batts are
Because after going outside to vape talking and holding it. The weight did get to be a pain, I can stack the 350's and a review that I saw
said the svd fires most consistently with them stacked.
See this is why I wanted a mod because of the options mainly.
Also after having the twists, which are good; but the one downfall for me with them was
not having an indicator for the batt level. I kinda like to gave a gauge of where my batts are
I am going with the AW's I may bite the bullet and go into a brick and mortar and get a few.
Not very patient
Also I would like to say thanks everyone for all your input
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One last question this is the correct AW 18350?
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AW IMR 18350 700mAh LiMN Rechargeable Lithium Battery
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AW IMR 18350 700mAh LiMN Rechargeable Lithium Battery
A few tidbits:
There is no break-in period for lithium batteries. That is a carry-over rumor from the days of NiCad and NiMh.
If you discharge a Li cell below a certain point, it will destroy it. Many Li cells include a small circuit board mounted onto the battery itself which prevents further discharge when the battery voltage drops below a certain critical level (in the neighborhood of 3V). IMR type 18x50do not have this circuitry built-in. However, most units like the VAMO have their own built in protection which shuts the unit off when battery voltage drops below this level, protecting the battery from damage.
The battery capacity drops over time, during the life of the battery. Every time you put it through a charge-discharge cycle, a little bit of the capacity goes away. If you use a notebook computer, you've seen this happen . . less and less useful time between charges. 18x50's are no different.
You can extend the useful life of your battery if you avoid a deep discharge. For example, if you remove and recharge the battery well before it has fully discharged, you get more usable total hours out of it. The same is true when charging. If you only charge to 4V instead of 4.2, you'll get more total usable hours. However, that one is more difficult to control since most battery chargers have fixed charge termination voltage; you'd need to hack open your charger and modify it which is not simple.
When figuring out 'running time' of a battery isn't as simple as taking mA-Hr and dividing by the discharge rate. The mA-Hr rating is generally based on a current drain of 1-C. For example, a 1000 mA-Hr battery is based on a discharge rate of 1000mA (1 Amp). So, if you draw 1000 mA from it, it should last one hour. However, the capacity drops as you draw higher currents. That same battery might only last for 15 minutes under a 3000 mA drain instead of the 20 minutes you might calculate. If you are using a 3.6V battery with a 2 ohm coil (6.6 watts), you're drawing 1800 mA.
There is no break-in period for lithium batteries. That is a carry-over rumor from the days of NiCad and NiMh.
If you discharge a Li cell below a certain point, it will destroy it. Many Li cells include a small circuit board mounted onto the battery itself which prevents further discharge when the battery voltage drops below a certain critical level (in the neighborhood of 3V). IMR type 18x50do not have this circuitry built-in. However, most units like the VAMO have their own built in protection which shuts the unit off when battery voltage drops below this level, protecting the battery from damage.
The battery capacity drops over time, during the life of the battery. Every time you put it through a charge-discharge cycle, a little bit of the capacity goes away. If you use a notebook computer, you've seen this happen . . less and less useful time between charges. 18x50's are no different.
You can extend the useful life of your battery if you avoid a deep discharge. For example, if you remove and recharge the battery well before it has fully discharged, you get more usable total hours out of it. The same is true when charging. If you only charge to 4V instead of 4.2, you'll get more total usable hours. However, that one is more difficult to control since most battery chargers have fixed charge termination voltage; you'd need to hack open your charger and modify it which is not simple.
When figuring out 'running time' of a battery isn't as simple as taking mA-Hr and dividing by the discharge rate. The mA-Hr rating is generally based on a current drain of 1-C. For example, a 1000 mA-Hr battery is based on a discharge rate of 1000mA (1 Amp). So, if you draw 1000 mA from it, it should last one hour. However, the capacity drops as you draw higher currents. That same battery might only last for 15 minutes under a 3000 mA drain instead of the 20 minutes you might calculate. If you are using a 3.6V battery with a 2 ohm coil (6.6 watts), you're drawing 1800 mA.
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