Why are mods/APV's better than ego?

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Jsyk: I'm not by any means doubting the superiority of big battery mods over ego style batteries. I just want to know exactly what advantages they hold.

The reason I am considering upgrading to a mod is because I want to get into RBA's which, according to an employee at the vape shop, might explode if I use an ego style battery. And I need an ohm reader. Also want to try rebuilding some protank coils but not until I can check the ohms.

Battery life isn't much of an issue for me since I have two 1300 mAh Vision Spinners and if they're at full charge in the morning it's more than enough to get me through the day. So aside from the ohm reading and the not-blowing-up-in-your-face-ness, what do you like in a mod? Is it actually a better quality vape? Like if I use the same tank, same coil, and same voltage on a mod vs. my spinner will I notice a difference?
 

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Honestly, they are not better. It really has more to do with what you like. A part of me wishes I had never switched from twists with kangers to mechs... Know that if you do switch you are moving into the hobby aspect of vaping. Make sure you do significant research to ensure you are ready for the difference.

Before anyone asks, I don't think I could switch back. I have gotten used to the increase flavor of my r91 and the clouds of my kraken and v12...
 

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Ego twists and the like are regulated as the voltage regulator doubles as a current limiter. A VV mod may be a good start as you will have a far wider usable range of resistance options that work well, ego batts are a cylindrical lipo pack in an unvented tube so I suppose that is another thing to consider specially when messing with LR coil and most RDA/RBA would be rediculously huge on an ego style bat, would be like carrying around a weapon from the dark ages.
 

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You dont have to throw away an good quality APV...........you do with an ego
Variable voltage/wattage
interchangable batteries...switch out on the go.

As said above!
I love the form factor of the EGO's, but I hate throwing crap away! Drop your EGO's a time or two, they are done! If the battery starts getting weak, it's only going to get weaker until it's done!
It's the famous circle, "Well I can buy four Zmax's for the Price of a Provari!" Yup, and you will go through them all and the Provari will still be working! "Well I can buy four EGO's for the same price of a Zmax!" Yup, and you will go through all four of them and the Zmax will still be working!
In the case of mods, you truly do get what you pay for!
 

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Jsyk: I'm not by any means doubting the superiority of big battery mods over ego style batteries. I just want to know exactly what advantages they hold.

The reason I am considering upgrading to a mod is because I want to get into RBA's which, according to an employee at the vape shop, might explode if I use an ego style battery. And I need an ohm reader. Also want to try rebuilding some protank coils but not until I can check the ohms.

Battery life isn't much of an issue for me since I have two 1300 mAh Vision Spinners and if they're at full charge in the morning it's more than enough to get me through the day. So aside from the ohm reading and the not-blowing-up-in-your-face-ness, what do you like in a mod? Is it actually a better quality vape? Like if I use the same tank, same coil, and same voltage on a mod vs. my spinner will I notice a difference?

More power(amps/watts/volts), more power(longer battery life), and more power(hits harder/more flavor). You get what you get with an Ego and that's it. No customizing your vape. A twist/spinner is a slight upgrade but nowhere near the same level as a good apv or mech. I started with an ego and it helped supplement my analogs.... but I quit analogs immediately and completely once I stepped up to the good stuff. If you are 100% satisfied with an ego... there is no reason to step up. If you want to experience a whole new world and enjoy a much higher quality vaping experience.... take the step up.
 
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RBA's which, according to an employee at the vape shop, might explode if I use an ego style battery.
:facepalm:

I would suggest sticking with what you have until you have a much better understanding of Mods, both Mechanical and APV.
Also, If the shop person actually said that, find a new shop to deal with.
You are not going to blow up an RBA with an EGO or any thing else unless you are trying to Vape Gasoline.
 

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Honestly, they are not better. It really has more to do with what you like. A part of me wishes I had never switched from twists with kangers to mechs... Know that if you do switch you are moving into the hobby aspect of vaping. Make sure you do significant research to ensure you are ready for the difference.

Before anyone asks, I don't think I could switch back. I have gotten used to the increase flavor of my r91 and the clouds of my kraken and v12...

Uh...... therefore....they ARE better.
 

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But no! And voltage doesn't matter, I can't boil cotton and clearo's are a plot by vendors to take my money!!
I've heard of the "ugly tree", I'm starting to wonder if there's a "stupid tree" and if it's branching out!

We are starting to get vaping into mainstream kids !! We better get ready for this.......:p
 
So more power, battery life, durability, and voltage regulation? Anything else I should consider?

I feel like with the PT3 there's really nowhere else to go with my current setup. The dual coil is a nice improvement because I can turn the battery up to 4.8 and almost never get dry hits. Still I just want something... more. I've tried a couple (I guess you would call them RDA's) and the flavor, vapor production etc. was 10x better than any tank I've tried. Much more satisfying indeed. I also like the idea of building my own coils, sounds like a lot of fun. Not completely satisfied with the generic kanger heads so being able to improve them is a big +
:facepalm:

I would suggest sticking with what you have until you have a much better understanding of Mods, both Mechanical and APV.
Also, If the shop person actually said that, find a new shop to deal with.
You are not going to blow up an RBA with an EGO or any thing else unless you are trying to Vape Gasoline.

Of course I will do lots of research before buying anything. I just want to know what to consider while I'm doing my research. I see a lot of stuff on the interwebs about specific devices but no general info about mods/apvs. And if it won't blow up using an ego, would it still work better using a mod? Like I said, I'm trying to explore my options to get the best vape and this seems like the next logical step.

Sorry if I sounds ignorant or misguided, I just can't seem to find the information I'm looking for...
 

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So more power, battery life, durability, and voltage regulation? Anything else I should consider?

You've pretty much got it. As was already said I think, you'll also be replacing a $10 battery instead of a $25 Spinner, and much less often probably. Also you'll have more options for your vaping experience. You could go mechanical and use high power RDAs, or techie PVs that have puff counters and programmable varying power curves for each puff, or ultimate durability, or any combination of the above. It's all up to you.
 

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with an ego you have a sealed battery you cannot change, the power output is not as steady and accurate as it could be and the power limit is quite low keeping you within a limited range of devices you can use, this is not to say you cannot use anything on an ego, but it does have its limits with regards to how well it will power those devices.

one of the biggest issues with smaller batteries like egos is as the battery gets weaker so does the vape. this is not usually an issue with the bigger mods.

with a bigger mod you get much more power, the power stays more steady, and then you get many added features like safety and short circuit protection, most mods also include a built in ohm meter which comes in handy. the rechargable batteries are relatively cheap for how long they last, and then convenience of carrying one device and a spare battery if needed, no more needing a small case with a couple egos, a charger, this and that.
 

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So more power, battery life, durability, and voltage regulation? Anything else I should consider?

I feel like with the PT3 there's really nowhere else to go with my current setup. The dual coil is a nice improvement because I can turn the battery up to 4.8 and almost never get dry hits. Still I just want something... more. I've tried a couple (I guess you would call them RDA's) and the flavor, vapor production etc. was 10x better than any tank I've tried. Much more satisfying indeed. I also like the idea of building my own coils, sounds like a lot of fun. Not completely satisfied with the generic kanger heads so being able to improve them is a big +

Of course I will do lots of research before buying anything. I just want to know what to consider while I'm doing my research. I see a lot of stuff on the interwebs about specific devices but no general info about mods/apvs. And if it won't blow up using an ego, would it still work better using a mod? Like I said, I'm trying to explore my options to get the best vape and this seems like the next logical step.

Sorry if I sounds ignorant or misguided, I just can't seem to find the information I'm looking for...

So basically the atomizer and coil within said atomizer you use makes the biggest difference in how the vape is going to be. But the mod you use does also make a noticeable difference. There are two main types of mods: regulated mods and unregulated mods. Your vision spinner, most ego's, and basically anything with variable voltage is a regulated mod. This usually means there is a little PCB chip inside the mod that regulates the voltage. This means that as your battery drains and its voltage output lowers, the mod will keep firing at the voltage you set it to until it can't. Most unregulated mods are mechanical mods, and they are very simple, it's just a positive and negative lead that make a circuit when you press the button. This means that the mod will fire at about 4.2-4.3v fresh off the charger, normally plateau around 3.7v for a while, and quickly taper off. There's nothing to stop you from over discharging a battery so you just have to notice the vape is getting weak.

Beyond that, different regulated mods use different methods of regulating voltage. Vision spinners, innokin's vv/vw mods, and the provari tend to give a smooth even vape, while other regulated mods like the VAMO and ZMAX use RMS which makes the vape kind of pop/crackle because it pulses high voltage.

The big advantage to unregulated mods, outside of vastly superior durability looks etc, is that the battery you're using is the only limit to how much power you can output. So if you get high discharge, low mah batteries you can push 30, 50, ??? watts while most regulated mods don't go over 15. Mechanicals give the best vape outside of very high-end regulated mods (dna 30, duke, etc) but you need to learn a good bit about battery safety and own a resistance checker before you own one. They're totally safe when used right, but your vape can be a potential pipe bomb if you're using cheap batteries that would otherwise be fine in a regulated mod because those mods have failsafes. Usually doesn't happen unless you get a hard short or make a very low res coil without checking it, but things can go wrong if someone just goes and buys a mech and rba without knowing anything about them.

tl;dr
regulated mods are more flexible with pre-made coils so they work well with clearos and cartos
regulated mods give the exact same vape until the battery dies, unregulated mods lose strength as the battery drains
not all regulated mods work the same, vape is subjectively very different between them
unregulated mods have no limits and work best with rebuildable atomizers
unregulated mods require more knowledge to use in general ex you will need to know battery safety, how to build a coil etc
you need a resistance checker to use unregulated mods, so it's never a bad idea to pick up a cheap VW mod to read ohms with if you want to get into them. The SVD, MVP v2, VAMO, etc are perfect for this because they can all be had for $25-40
 
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