Perhaps a discussion like this already exists, but I write this mostly because a chronic (and annoying) problem exists with many atomizers and APVs (regulated and mechanical alike) regarding the fitment of atomizers to battery mods. While we do have a standard threadings for 510, eGo, etc., there are no concrete standards for how deep connectors should be, how long center/firing pins in mods should be, how long atty bottom contacts should be, and so on.
For example, I have copper Manhattan that came with three firing pins of differing lengths. My Tobh v2 fits just fine on it (as in, perfectly flush) with two of the three pins, in fact, because it has a relatively short bottom (perhaps "medium-height") contact. The same atty will however NOT sit flush on my DNA30 box, which has a somewhat shallow 510 connection (it leaves a gap). Then, I bought a Plume Veil, which has a very long bottom contact. Even when using the shortest firing pin my Manhattan came with, the only way to get the Plume Veil to sit flush on it is to compromise by leaving a small gap where the firing button threads into the bottom. I also have an authentic black Russian 91% v2 that ends up having too short of a bottom contact for many 510 connectors, unless I loosen the tiny bottom adjustment screw, which easily falls off once it's loosened. I've lost that stupid little screw like THREE times and NO local shops carry replacements.
I also became so frustrated with my authentic copper 4Nine 18650 mod that I sold it two weeks after I bought it. Why? The hybrid connector is crap and only works correctly with a handful of atomizers (and batteries), ruling out many sub-ohmers that are already pigeonholed into buying flat tops if they want quality high-amp cells. I really wanted to like that mod, too. It had so much going for it otherwise. At least I got most of my money back on that one...
And this folks, is why I believe we need clearly defined standards for things outside of mere specifications of how a threading should be shaped. I believe it's possible to make products that adhere to simple standards, yet are still innovative.
For example, I have copper Manhattan that came with three firing pins of differing lengths. My Tobh v2 fits just fine on it (as in, perfectly flush) with two of the three pins, in fact, because it has a relatively short bottom (perhaps "medium-height") contact. The same atty will however NOT sit flush on my DNA30 box, which has a somewhat shallow 510 connection (it leaves a gap). Then, I bought a Plume Veil, which has a very long bottom contact. Even when using the shortest firing pin my Manhattan came with, the only way to get the Plume Veil to sit flush on it is to compromise by leaving a small gap where the firing button threads into the bottom. I also have an authentic black Russian 91% v2 that ends up having too short of a bottom contact for many 510 connectors, unless I loosen the tiny bottom adjustment screw, which easily falls off once it's loosened. I've lost that stupid little screw like THREE times and NO local shops carry replacements.
I also became so frustrated with my authentic copper 4Nine 18650 mod that I sold it two weeks after I bought it. Why? The hybrid connector is crap and only works correctly with a handful of atomizers (and batteries), ruling out many sub-ohmers that are already pigeonholed into buying flat tops if they want quality high-amp cells. I really wanted to like that mod, too. It had so much going for it otherwise. At least I got most of my money back on that one...
And this folks, is why I believe we need clearly defined standards for things outside of mere specifications of how a threading should be shaped. I believe it's possible to make products that adhere to simple standards, yet are still innovative.
