Why do most Mods come with fire buttons with strange fire buttons and locations?

[Rob4092]

I am wondering why most every Mechanical mod comes with some type of strange fire button? Most are on the bottom. Some require pressure from pressing the Mechanical mod up against your lips. I would think this would create a real problem if you put it in your pants pocket since it will very likely fire from gravity. Seems like the safest, and most ergonomic fire button would be located on the side towards the tank attachment (much like the Ego's). Why do they put them in such odd locations and in such odd styles?

Also, how can one Mechanical Mod deliver a better throat hit than another? They all have a direct switch connection to the battery. There is no type of voltage or power regulation. They are really nothing more than a battery compartment. Why do some claim one Mod is so much better than another except for the build quality?

 

[BDUAres]

Wrote a little bit on this the other day

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/471638-new-mechanical-mod.html#post10774572

As far as the fire button, due to the mechanical being just that - mechanical - the goal is to force the battery in the tube to make contact when you want it to, and to not have any contact when you are not using it. So a bottom button with a spring is the easiest way to do that using the body of the mech as one contact pole, as in the Sentinel/M16/V3. A side button is a bit more complex, but is also common, as used in the GG/KTS Storm, etc. Most have a locking ring of some sort to keep the button from being pressed in a pocket. On my V3 I went one step further and removed the locking ring and replaced it with a brass compression cap that screws onto the bottom of the mod and 100% keeps the fire button from being depressed. Photo of my compression cap mod is in my avatar

 

[crxess]

Op needs to do some actual reading on each Mod in order to achieve an understanding.
Most bottom fire buttons have a screw down lock to prevent Pocket firing. You press the bottom fire switch your Pinky Not by pressing to your lips.

Side fire buttons normally have a screw collar that stops the buttons motion to prevent firing. Side fire are usually squeezed mid pinky.

Both are very simple and normally very comfortable to use.

Some mods even use opposing Magnets for very smooth operation and extended life.

 

[Thrasher]

Personally I only use side button mechs myself most have a simple button on the side, the idea with a bottom button is simply to remove as much extra parts as they can increasing conductivity and reducing the chances of wearing parts to replace

Also, how can one Mechanical Mod deliver a better throat hit than another? They all have a direct switch connection to the battery. There is no type of voltage or power regulation. They are really nothing more than a battery compartment. Why do some claim one Mod is so much better than another except for the build quality?

this is simple due to the fact that all materials have a resistance, the higher the resistance of the mod the less voltage actually gets to the atty, causing the hit to drop off or not be as powerful. simply put this is like having a vv mod set to 4 v and then turning it down to 3.6 v . if you liked the vape at 4v your not going to be happy with the drop all of a sudden.

as you lower the resistance of the coil the drop becomes less noticeable, but any "standard" resistance will show the drop within the mod very clearly. and in this way some will "hit" harder then others.
there is much more thought going into the design and construction of these simple metal tubes then most people realize.

 

[SissySpike]

I am wondering why most every Mechanical Mod comes with some type of strange fire button? Most are on the bottom. Some require pressure from pressing the Mechanical Mod up against your lips. I would think this would create a real problem if you put it in your pants pocket since it will very likely fire from gravity. Seems like the safest, and most ergonomic fire button would be located on the side towards the tank attachment (much like the Ego's). Why do they put them in such odd locations and in such odd styles?

Also, how can one Mechanical Mod deliver a better throat hit than another? They all have a direct switch connection to the battery. There is no type of voltage or power regulation. They are really nothing more than a battery compartment. Why do some claim one Mod is so much better than another except for the build quality?

Are you asking some questions? or making assumptions? Or giving us your opinion on mechanical mods? It seems to me you are making some uninformed assumptions and basing an opinion on pretty much pure speculation.

Like crxess I think you should do some research possibly some youtubing before you form an opinion.

As far as odd places why not? its a switch why not put it where you like if you building a mod. I have 3 mechanical and 4 touch censer mods that have top button or activation so some modders agree with you and think the button should be there but Its really just a matter of preference

 

[Rob4092]

Easy Buzzlife. This Forum is for asking questions to become more educated on any E-cig topic. I didn't come and knock on your door asking for help. This is an open Forum for questions, not ridicule. Move on if you don't like what you read.

Your statements, "Are you asking some questions? or making assumptions? Or giving us your opinion on mechanical mods? It seems to me you are making some uninformed assumptions and basing an opinion on pretty much pure speculation?" are kinda strange as you seem to take my questions personal...as if I was only directing them to you. I wasn't. I was directly my questions to those who enjoy chatting about these issues. As you can see from the above, there are some very good people on this Forum who like to help...not ridicule!

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

You're getting this reaction because of the way you worded your post. You call the fire buttons "strange" and say they are put in "odd" places. The impression is that you've already judged them as impractical or lack ergonomic comfort because they don't conform to your notion of normal.

You made an assumption about their safety due to what is clearly a lack of understanding of how mech mods are designed and constructed. You questioned the legitimacy of claims of performance differences based on your belief that they're simply tubes. That too shows a lack of understanding of how these things work, from both an electrical and mechanical perspective.

Show a lack of understanding and start assigning labels like "strange" and "odd" to devices on a forum filled with people who are passionate about their mods and you're gonna get what ya got, pal.

 

[tj99959]

Well actually the most popular mechanical mod ever made doesn't use a bottom button or a side button, and has a great button lock.

Add:
Should also mention that something as simple as the material the button spring is made of can completely change the performance of a mechanical mod.

 

[Rob4092]

Uhhh, ya, these are my opinions. Duh! Don't like what I ask, move on. I had questions and asked them. Is this such a big deal that you needed to take time out of your busy day to tell me this? Are you saying we should not post our opinions? Can you imagine how limited conversation would be if we didn't post our opinions. Let me give you one example:

My review on ABC Liquid: "I purchased some ABC Juice. It came in a bottle. It cost me $5.99." End of review without an opinion!

You're getting this reaction because of the way you worded your post. You call the fire buttons "strange" and say they are put in "odd" places. The impression is that you've already judged them as impractical or lack ergonomic comfort because they don't conform to your notion of normal.

You made an assumption about their safety due to what is clearly a lack of understanding of how mech mods are designed and constructed. You questioned the legitimacy of claims of performance differences based on your belief that they're simply tubes. That too shows a lack of understanding of how these things work, from both an electrical and mechanical perspective.

Show a lack of understanding and start assigning labels like "strange" and "odd" to devices on a forum filled with people who are passionate about their mods and you're gonna get what ya got, pal.

 

[Rob4092]

This is AWESOME! I love it! Thanks for sharing!

Well actually the most popular mechanical mod ever made doesn't use a bottom button or a side button, and has a great button lock.

Add:
Should also mention that something as simple as the material the button spring is made of can completely change the performance of a mechanical mod.

 

[tj99959]

Uhhh, ya, these are my opinions. Duh! Don't like what I ask, move on. I had questions and asked them. Is this such a big deal that you needed to take time out of your busy day to tell me this? Are you saying we should not post our opinions? Can you imagine how limited conversation would be if we didn't post our opinions. Let me give you one example:

My review on ABC Liquid: "I purchased some ABC Juice. It came in a bottle. It cost me $5.99." End of review without an opinion!

Slow down Rob, you asked a question and folks are trying to answer it. There are never guarantees that you will like the answers.

 

[JMarca]

I've yet to see a mechanical mod that's activated with lip pressure or suction. Could you post an example? Mind you we're talking mechanicals here not automatic ego style batteries.

 

[tj99959]

I've yet to see a mechanical mod that's activated with lip pressure or suction. Could you post an example? Mind you we're talking mechanicals here not automatic ego style batteries.

Altsmoke Omega & Alpha (if you wanted to)

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

Uhhh, ya, these are my opinions. Duh! Don't like what I ask, move on. I had questions and asked them. Is this such a big deal that you needed to take time out of your busy day to tell me this? Are you saying we should not post our opinions? Can you imagine how limited conversation would be if we didn't post our opinions. Let me give you one example:

My review on ABC Liquid: "I purchased some ABC Juice. It came in a bottle. It cost me $5.99." End of review without an opinion!

You're free to express your opinions.

But when your opinions include judgments based on faulty assumptions or lack of the requisite knowledge to formulate those opinions, you're gonna get what ya got.

In other words, you're doing it wrong.

 

[WattWick]

Button placement is a very individual preference. I prefer mine at the bottom. One reason is that this allows for a shorter mod compared to most side buttons I've seen that can easily add almost an inch to the tube. There are exceptions to this rule, and not all bottom button mods are shorter than every side button mod. Taken to the extreme, some bottom button mods are shorter with a 18500 battery than some side button mods with an 18350 battery. These are wild generalizations as I have not measured every mod out there.

Another thing with bottom buttons is that ... well... you press them from the bottom. If you are a gennie user and are used to having your wick facing downwards for wicking purposes, side buttons may sometimes end up in awkward positions. With a bottom button it doesn't matter which way you rotate the mod.

True, there is no voltage regulation in mech mods. However, due to choice of design and materials, some mech mods are more efficient in delivering power to the atty than others. Generally referred to as "voltage loss". Some metals conduct electricity better than others. Some switch designs are better than others in terms of conductivity. Some metals are less prone to oxidation than others.

 

[JMarca]

Altsmoke Omega & Alpha (if you wanted to)

What? The Alpha, Omega and Silverbullet are activated via a button, just like anything else.

Here watch the first impression review:
THE OMEGA FROM ALTSMOKE.COM FIRST IMPRESSIONS - YouTube


I think you really need to do ALOT more research on mechanical before you start making these claims man.

 

[bacc.vap]

There used to be a mod activated by mouth, but it's not sold anymore. The only one I've personally ever heard of-> The Copper Electronic Cigarette from Atmosusa.biz First Impressions - YouTube

 

[JMarca]

There used to be a mod activated by mouth, but it's not sold anymore. The only one I've personally ever heard of-> The Copper Electronic Cigarette from Atmosusa.biz First Impressions - YouTube

Nice find I hadn't seen that one but it's still not suction or lip activated. If you watch the video it's a switch, you push inward to activate. Pretty cool none the less.

 

[tj99959]

What? The Alpha, Omega and Silverbullet are activated via a button, just like anything else.

Here watch the first impression review:
THE OMEGA FROM ALTSMOKE.COM FIRST IMPRESSIONS - YouTube


I think you really need to do ALOT more research on mechanical before you start making these claims man.

Well I have an Omega sitting right here on my big ole desk, so how much research would you like me to do?!?

Like I said you can just push an Omega or Alpha up against your lip to fire it. (or you can push the top cap DOWN with your fingers) to fire it. Both have top cap switches.(no "button" on them anywhere)
So now I would suggest that YOU do a little more research before trying to call someone out!

 

[JMarca]

You just contradicted your previous statement, but I see you have no desire what so ever to learn anything about mechanicals from your previous posts in this thread. Just stick to what you know I guess, which isn't much.