Why do people vape when they never smoked?
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I have to agree with mariah here, the law dictates if you are of legal age then it is OK!
If someone was to just turn 21 and they decided they wanted to go to a bar and have a drink, who are we or anyone for that matter to tell them no they can't do it!!! It is their decision as an adult to decide what they want to put into their body.
I think the same logic applies to e-cigs, or regular cigarettes for that matter. If you are of legal age for the activity and you decide you want to do it, by all means do it. The difference with cigarettes is you are exposing others by means of second hand smoke.
So If someone who has never smoked cigarettes wanted to use an e-cig, I would applaud them for making the decision not to expose other people to cigarette smoke!!!
If I wanted to go skydiving, are you allowed to tell me that I can't because the parachute might not open leading to my death? It is my choice!
For the record I am well well above legal smoking age, smoked cigarettes for 10 years, and recently started using e-cigs to get off cigarettes.
Don't tell anyone of legal age what they can or can't do, it is their decision not yours!
I would caution those questioning why a non-smoker would take up vaping when there are many in the world who would ask why you took up smoking to need vaping in the first place and follow up that line of questioning with "why do you need vaping when there are other methods to quit smoking?" Proven methods that have worked for 1000's of other people for years. If someone decided to start 0 nic vaping to hang out with their "cool" friends who smoke or vape, I would not put them in any category other than "smarter/luckier than me" for vaping rather than starting to smoke analogs. If I'd had the choice at the tender age I started smoking to pick up a PV rather than a cigarette, I really hope I would have gone for the PV.
Nicotine is not why it is being used as a dieting tool, and unless you are a medical doctor treating someone you do not have the information to judge what they should or shouldn't do. People like you have made me sick my whole life. I don't use vaping as a diet tool, but I am overweight, exercise and eating better did nothing for me. It has taken them almost 42 years to find out my thyroid was messed up. And yes my doctors in the past have tried all sorts of crazy ideas with me to try to help.
And what business did you have lighting your first cig?
Odd that sticking patches on didn't become trendy or used as a dieting aid, I wonder if that would change if they come out with a designer tattoo sticker line.
Many doctors are telling people to use 0 nic e-cigs to help with dieting to help control cravings because of the flavors. This is being studied in the UK.
A lot of the older vapers here did not start vaping to quit smoking, they started vaping to "replace" smoking which is what e-cigs are they are, a replacement, they are not approved nor sold as a stop smoking aid, and many of us have no desire to quit vaping. Everyone who is just now starting to vape should be glad they don't either, because if it wasn't for those vape vets out there, we wouldn't have 70% of what is out now.
I don't understand why so many people think it is up to them to make decisions for the rest of us....
A non-smoker who takes up vaping is doing it because they want to and unless they are getting the
money from you it is none of your business....
just like drinking, gambling, or even skydiving like was mentioned above.....
A non-smoker who takes up vaping is doing it because they want to and unless they are getting the
money from you it is none of your business....
just like drinking, gambling, or even skydiving like was mentioned above.....
Honestly I think it is the exclusivity that they are trying to preserve. Much like some people that hate it when their favorite underground band breaks through. It's not something special for just them anymore. And so they call them sellouts, and the people who listen trendy, wanabe and hipster. When you should be happy that the band you loved so much is now successful at doing what they love.
If we just learned how to be a little more sharing kind and non-judgmental; this world would be a much better place for it.
If we just learned how to be a little more sharing kind and non-judgmental; this world would be a much better place for it.
Ive been reading this forum for a while just decided to register, im new with e cigs and looked for more info, i "quitted" smoking for more than 5 years meaning i stopped buying analogs for a daily smoking habit but i had a cigarette once or twice a year, for different causes, and casual cigar, but as a not daily smoker those cigs tasted so bad unless alcohol or caffeine was involved. A month ago i wanted a cig im not saying needed cause i didn't just wanted it... and instead i bought a disposable e cig, and did the deed and i liked it.
I told a friend, and she explain to me how they stopped smoking and started vaping and how good it tastes and guess what i ordered mine cause disposables tend to get expensive compare to buying the real deal and here i am smoking my disposable waiting anxious for my kit and e juices and if instead of getting a chocolate Ill vap it.. well mm better, im still get my real wine glass instead lol
My point any "excuse" or reason we have to do it, only will eventually satisfy ourselves not everyone else,still an opinion and even if i don't share it i respect it... but vaping its a safer yummy choice while at it so anyone who does it cheers, moderation still a must.
I told a friend, and she explain to me how they stopped smoking and started vaping and how good it tastes and guess what i ordered mine cause disposables tend to get expensive compare to buying the real deal and here i am smoking my disposable waiting anxious for my kit and e juices and if instead of getting a chocolate Ill vap it.. well mm better, im still get my real wine glass instead lol
My point any "excuse" or reason we have to do it, only will eventually satisfy ourselves not everyone else,still an opinion and even if i don't share it i respect it... but vaping its a safer yummy choice while at it so anyone who does it cheers, moderation still a must.
I don't think anyone is trying to make decisions for others. opinions were asked for and given. if non smokers want to start a new habit, that's fine, but I don't have to help them
I will help people who are trying to stop or cut back on cigs.
If my kids decide to try nicotine, I sure hope they try an e cig rather than an analog. And belive me they will experiment as we all did too.
I also would hope if they feel presure to fit in they would ask me for a 0% e cig of mine when they go out, just like I would hope they will ask for a condom when or if that time comes. GOD I PRAY that time doesn't come.
I also would hope if they feel presure to fit in they would ask me for a 0% e cig of mine when they go out, just like I would hope they will ask for a condom when or if that time comes. GOD I PRAY that time doesn't come.
but aren't you judging those who think non smokers should be non vapors? why can't we have our opinion? is our opinion going to make people vape or not? no.
I don't like it when other people decide why I say something or why I have a certain opinion, so I'm going to unsubscribe from this thread because it is starting to irritate me
Limiting vaping to ex-smokers guarantees that it will continue to be perceived as a marginal behavior.
The more people vape, the more common it will become. The more common it becomes, the more knowledgeable people will become about it. All this will the harder it will be to ban it. We must lose no opportunity to welcome newcomers to vaping anywhere they come from.
I have to wonder how many of these people who opine about "taking things into their body" have an ideal body mass index (BMI) or carefully monitor the macro-nutritional makeup of their daily diet. Nobody spares every expense to preserve their health or prolong their life, so there's really no point in trying to make a moral issue out of health choices.
And let's be perfectly clear about why people make moral issues out of personal choices: It changes a personal difference of opinion into a categorical condemnation of the person you're disagreeing with. It's a manipulative move made by to gain control over a discussion; it's most frequently used by control freaks/neo-puritans.
The more people vape, the more common it will become. The more common it becomes, the more knowledgeable people will become about it. All this will the harder it will be to ban it. We must lose no opportunity to welcome newcomers to vaping anywhere they come from.
I have to wonder how many of these people who opine about "taking things into their body" have an ideal body mass index (BMI) or carefully monitor the macro-nutritional makeup of their daily diet. Nobody spares every expense to preserve their health or prolong their life, so there's really no point in trying to make a moral issue out of health choices.
And let's be perfectly clear about why people make moral issues out of personal choices: It changes a personal difference of opinion into a categorical condemnation of the person you're disagreeing with. It's a manipulative move made by to gain control over a discussion; it's most frequently used by control freaks/neo-puritans.
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Judging people isnt a negative contribution to society at all.EVERY single one of has done it at some point in our lives and will do it again in the future as well.
Its one of bases of a healthy relationship and anyone who thinks they arent "guilty" of doing it is a fool.
See that shady guy hanging out in the shadows in the parking garage acting all sketchy? You just judged him...most people would exercise caution in that situation. Using ones own 'judgement" is actually helpful there.
Boss piling tasks on you at work and taking all the credit for them? You just judged him.....and decided to start looking for another job.
Friend just started cheating on his wife, drinking all the time and doing drugs? You just judged him...is up to you to decide if you want to help or stay away from him until he gets his act together.
I could go on all day but hopefully people are starting to get the picture here.
When people say 'dont judge" and 'dont hate" and you should be more "politically correct" all theyre really saying is that you shouldnt have an opinion thats different than mine or sometimes even an opinion at all.
What I find comical and immature is younger people getting offended because someone uses the terms hipster or trendy and then berating people that are FAR older and wiser than they are, who are just trying to stop someone from making a huge mistake.
EX-SMOKERS use electronic cigarettes because for some of us the only alternative is a very long, painful and agonizing death from cigarettes. Weve tried almost every alternative out there to quit and this is the only one that works for us.
To many of us its a miracle that unfolds every day.
To see someone take something like that and all the positives we've associated with it, and corrupt it and willingly go from healthy to being addicted to nicotine and in all likelihood cigarettes as well at some point, is not only disrespectful but downright stupid in many of our eyes.
You can complain and moan and tell us all how were terrible people and how we shouldnt have an opinion but Id be willing to bet you you'll see things differently 10-20 years down the road.
You dont see people saying "hey I think Ill hit up the Methadone clinic because I've thought about giving ...... a try". I dont see how this is much different.
Sometimes that's what they're saying. Other times, they're saying "that's a really stupid judgement," which is an assertion that can be assessed on its merits.
Older doesn't always mean wiser. It also means in a state of decline.
I guess the problem I have with this statement is that it takes someone's personal choice, and makes it all about you.
i wouldn't think of it as a "trend"...it's not cool to smoke e-cigs in my country..but it's rapidly growing some supporters in my country of Malaysia...if you never smoked before then definitely you shouldn't vape. i'm a pack a day smoker that's cutting down to about a single analog a day. E-cig is a saviour for me. It's not like e-cigs in my country is cheap either. A standard ego-t set can fetch up price to RM250. that's expensive here in my country. i've seen teens vaping and i don't think it's right to start vaping nor do i condone they start smoking cigarettes either...
It's just the fact that the people I see go to my local vape shop, which is pretty big now, are non smokers. I know people have the right to do what they wish, but the trend setting that's happening really bothers me because they seem (from a lot of people I do know that picked up Vaping and are not smokers) act like they know everything about it.
I think it's because most of us are former (or current) smokers who have experienced many years of regret for having started, that the idea of starting to use nicotine in any form is just repulsive.
However, if someone does decide to start vaping just for fun, I don't think it's my place to judge them for that either.
However, if someone does decide to start vaping just for fun, I don't think it's my place to judge them for that either.
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